Lakers to match up to 100m on Austin

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Re: Lakers to match up to 100m on Austin 

Post#21 » by Memories » Fri Jun 2, 2023 2:25 pm

dirkforpres wrote:He’s going to get a Jalen Brunson contract. Lakers should match any offer, even if it exceeds 100


The point of saying match up to 100m, is that it literally can’t go higher then that. That’s his max.
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Memories wrote:So still not at all over yet.

Nah it’s over 121 to 107

Clippers go on a 15-0 run right after this, and eventually win the game. :lol:
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Re: Lakers to match up to 100m on Austin 

Post#22 » by dirkforpres » Fri Jun 2, 2023 2:30 pm

Memories wrote:
dirkforpres wrote:He’s going to get a Jalen Brunson contract. Lakers should match any offer, even if it exceeds 100


The point of saying match up to 100m, is that it literally can’t go higher then that. That’s his max.


I know that now, as it’s been quoted 3x to me in this thread already. Regardless, teams should be calling the Lakers bluff. Reaves is good, but Lakers will be in cap hell
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Re: Lakers to match up to 100m on Austin 

Post#23 » by Memories » Fri Jun 2, 2023 2:39 pm

dirkforpres wrote:
Memories wrote:
dirkforpres wrote:He’s going to get a Jalen Brunson contract. Lakers should match any offer, even if it exceeds 100


The point of saying match up to 100m, is that it literally can’t go higher then that. That’s his max.


I know that now, as it’s been quoted 3x to me in this thread already. Regardless, teams should be calling the Lakers bluff. Reaves is good, but Lakers will be in cap hell


Calling what bluff? If anything, it’s the Lakers calling any team’s bluff to offer him his max. If they do that, then they waste their time offering a max deal, waiting for him to accept, and then waiting for the Lakers to eventually max while all the other free agents fly by, and get signed by other teams, because they can no longer other that kind of money to other players when it’s tied to a “bluff” signing.

Very silly argument.
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Memories wrote:So still not at all over yet.

Nah it’s over 121 to 107

Clippers go on a 15-0 run right after this, and eventually win the game. :lol:
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Re: Lakers to match up to 100m on Austin 

Post#24 » by durden_tyler » Fri Jun 2, 2023 2:43 pm

Bobbymcgee wrote:Some team about to offer him 101 million lol.

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Re: Lakers to match up to 100m on Austin 

Post#25 » by durden_tyler » Fri Jun 2, 2023 2:44 pm

Richard4444 wrote:The Lakers have to say they will match any offer to try to dissuade teams to give him an offer sheet. But this can be a bluff...

A rival team should easily call the bluff. Thinking Spurs.
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Re: Lakers to match up to 100m on Austin 

Post#26 » by Ray Donovan » Fri Jun 2, 2023 3:01 pm

dirkforpres wrote:He’s going to get a Jalen Brunson contract. Lakers should match any offer, even if it exceeds 100
...........Mavs do sign & trade for Kyrie & McGee we get Reeves, Bamba & #1(17) & WaLker deal ?
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Re: Lakers to match up to 100m on Austin 

Post#27 » by levon » Fri Jun 2, 2023 3:08 pm

durden_tyler wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:The Lakers have to say they will match any offer to try to dissuade teams to give him an offer sheet. But this can be a bluff...

A rival team should easily call the bluff. Thinking Spurs.

There's literally no bluff. If the Spurs want to pay Austin 36m and 38m in two years, they're welcome to make an offer.

I personally think Austin gets something in the range of 4/80. That seems like a reasonable range for him.
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Re: Lakers to match up to 100m on Austin 

Post#28 » by Richard4444 » Fri Jun 2, 2023 3:13 pm

levon wrote:
durden_tyler wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:The Lakers have to say they will match any offer to try to dissuade teams to give him an offer sheet. But this can be a bluff...

A rival team should easily call the bluff. Thinking Spurs.

There's literally no bluff. If the Spurs want to pay Austin 36m and 38m in two years, they're welcome to make an offer.

I personally think Austin gets something in the range of 4/80. That seems like a reasonable range for him.


The Spurs can pay 23-24-25-26 I guess. The Lakers have to pay 36-38 on his last 2 years.
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Re: Lakers to match up to 100m on Austin 

Post#29 » by levon » Fri Jun 2, 2023 3:19 pm

Richard4444 wrote:
levon wrote:
durden_tyler wrote:A rival team should easily call the bluff. Thinking Spurs.

There's literally no bluff. If the Spurs want to pay Austin 36m and 38m in two years, they're welcome to make an offer.

I personally think Austin gets something in the range of 4/80. That seems like a reasonable range for him.


The Spurs can pay 23-24-25-26 I guess. The Lakers have to pay 36-38 on his last 2 years.

The Arenas Provision applies to both teams.
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Re: Lakers to match up to 100m on Austin 

Post#30 » by QingJames » Fri Jun 2, 2023 3:25 pm

Reaves is good, and well worth that money. For instance, I would much rather have Reaves at 4/100 than GTJ at whatever he’s angling for. My only question about Reaves is if his elite foul-baiting would translate into a similarly obscene number of free throws if he didn’t play with the Lakers and LeBron.
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Re: Lakers to match up to 100m on Austin 

Post#31 » by ciueli » Fri Jun 2, 2023 3:57 pm

Reaves put up some incredible numbers in his second season, 39.8% 3 point shooting, only 26.4% of those attempts came from the corners and he actually shot worse from there, (36.8%) which is rare (usually the top 3 point shooters take a ton of corner 3s which inflates their percentages).

He posted an astronomical 68.7% True Shooting, that was good enough for 4th overall this season, behind only Jokic (MVP level player), Nic Claxton (nothing but dunks at the rim), and Mason Plumlee (ditto). The next three guards on that list are Steph Curry (13th overall, 65.6%), Damian Lillard (19th overall, 64.5%), and SGA (29th overall, 62.6%).

In the playoffs this year he put up some pretty fantastic numbers, 44.3% 3 point shooting and looked like the Lakers' 3rd best player most of the time, in the WCF he averaged over 20PPG on good efficiency and he's only 24.
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Re: Lakers to match up to 100m on Austin 

Post#32 » by In-N-Out 247 » Fri Jun 2, 2023 3:59 pm

This is an interesting situation in that the max the Lakers can offer Austin Reaves is about 4 years 50M. However, they can match pretty much any offer from another team (which I believe maxes out about 4/100M). So even if the Lakers wanted to give him 4/100M they couldn't do it directly.

I wonder if the Lakers stating they will match any offer that they hope it will prevent a team from offering it and therefore limiting how much they will have to pay in years 3 & 4 of his contract.
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Re: Lakers to match up to 100m on Austin 

Post#33 » by niQ » Fri Jun 2, 2023 4:15 pm

dsg2003mach1 wrote:anyone else see this ending up the next Linsanity situation?


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Re: Lakers to match up to 100m on Austin 

Post#34 » by Prizah » Fri Jun 2, 2023 4:25 pm

Can Reaves take 1 year deal and then not be limited to 4 yr $100m maximum next year as a free agent?
If he really believes and wants to bet on himself, can he take 1yr $25m deal for next year and then hit free agency again year after?
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Re: Lakers to match up to 100m on Austin 

Post#35 » by Godymas » Fri Jun 2, 2023 4:25 pm

i can't believe how quickly Austin Reaves is going to make $100M. Dude was literally undrafted, barely in the rotation, out of nowhere he became a key piece for the Lakers. Then he became really damn good, and now he's getting $100 million dollars on his deal at 25 years old. Insane rise.
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Re: Lakers to match up to 100m on Austin 

Post#36 » by Hoppy1 » Fri Jun 2, 2023 4:29 pm

SK21209 wrote:The most the Lakers can offer Reaves is 4 years / $50.8 million. The most another team can over is 4 years / $98.7 million but the Lakers can match any offer. My telegraphing clearly that they would match any offer, interested teams may be dissuaded from signing Reaves to an offer sheet at all and tying up their cap for 24 hours. We may end up getting Reaves back for the 4 years / $50.8 million if everyone else thinks it’s a waste of time to sign him to an offer sheet, although if that is the case Reaves may opt to sign a shorter deal to get back on the market.

Reaves is going to go for as much money as he can get on the longest contract he can sign.
If another team plays it smart, they sign him to the $99mil and hope LA matches, ties up LA's future money. Do it early.
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Re: Lakers to match up to 100m on Austin 

Post#37 » by In-N-Out 247 » Fri Jun 2, 2023 4:30 pm

Prizah wrote:Can Reaves take 1 year deal and then not be limited to 4 yr $100m maximum next year as a free agent?
If he really believes and wants to bet on himself, can he take 1yr $25m deal for next year and then hit free agency again year after?


Pretty sure the answer is no, at least not a 1 year $25M deal. I think max he can make next year is around $11.3M
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Re: Lakers to match up to 100m on Austin 

Post#38 » by Hoppy1 » Fri Jun 2, 2023 4:31 pm

dsg2003mach1 wrote:anyone else see this ending up the next Linsanity situation?

Absolutely. Play good for half a year, run to the bank and be average from then on.
When teams make a player a focal point of the defense, you see how good a player is.
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Re: Lakers to match up to 100m on Austin 

Post#39 » by cupcakesnake » Fri Jun 2, 2023 5:03 pm

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dsg2003mach1 wrote:anyone else see this ending up the next Linsanity situation?

Absolutely. Play good for half a year, run to the bank and be average from then on.
When teams make a player a focal point of the defense, you see how good a player is.


Except no one is paying Reaves to be the focal point of their offense. This isn't a challenge Reaves is likely to face and it's not the way anyone is evaluating him for this next contract.

The irony in your statement, is the Lin did somewhat excel as the focal point. As an on-ball guard he was really good in the pick & roll. He had a decent first step, could hit tough pull ups and runners, and make decent decisions after collapsing the defense. Lin struggled to play in any other setting though, so you couldn't put him next to another ball handler, and as a solo ball handler he was only so-so. He caught on a bit again in Charlotte when they gave him a bench unit to run his favorite sets in, but shortly after that injuries took away his first step and at that point he couldn't provide any value since he was a poor defender and shooter.

Austin Reaves is built to a complimentary attacker. He's a good shooter. He attacks closeouts well and can bail out bad possessions with a foul. He's strong. He's a good passer. He can make a lot of impact without needing a lot of action run for him. Austin Reavers doesn't have the high-end burst, mobility, or athleticism to be the full-time hub of an offense. He's not going to collapse a defense (Lin's main skill), but Reaves has the kind of game that you pair with anybody and he's going to compliment them. That has it's own value and it's why Reaves is about to get paid. He's not getting paid to run an offense. He's getting paid because he makes your team better.
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Re: Lakers to match up to 100m on Austin 

Post#40 » by KillMonger » Fri Jun 2, 2023 5:14 pm

ciueli wrote:Reaves put up some incredible numbers in his second season, 39.8% 3 point shooting, only 26.4% of those attempts came from the corners and he actually shot worse from there, (36.8%) which is rare (usually the top 3 point shooters take a ton of corner 3s which inflates their percentages).

He posted an astronomical 68.7% True Shooting, that was good enough for 4th overall this season, behind only Jokic (MVP level player), Nic Claxton (nothing but dunks at the rim), and Mason Plumlee (ditto). The next three guards on that list are Steph Curry (13th overall, 65.6%), Damian Lillard (19th overall, 64.5%), and SGA (29th overall, 62.6%).

In the playoffs this year he put up some pretty fantastic numbers, 44.3% 3 point shooting and looked like the Lakers' 3rd best player most of the time, in the WCF he averaged over 20PPG on good efficiency and he's only 24.

just curious of these numbers what percentage of these is wide open?
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