Lakers to match up to 100m on Austin

[mademan]

The most the Lakers can offer Reaves is 4 years / $50.8 million. The most another team can over is 4 years / $98.7 million but the Lakers can match any offer. My telegraphing clearly that they would match any offer, interested teams may be dissuaded from signing Reaves to an offer sheet at all and tying up their cap for 24 hours. We may end up getting Reaves back for the 4 years / $50.8 million if everyone else thinks it’s a waste of time to sign him to an offer sheet, although if that is the case Reaves may opt to sign a shorter deal to get back on the market.

A guy who was basically fighting to stay in the league 5 min ago turning down 50mill guaranteed to take a shorter deal (like 20-30 mill guaranteed) is absolutely crazy.

[levon]

Reaves put up some incredible numbers in his second season, 39.8% 3 point shooting, only 26.4% of those attempts came from the corners and he actually shot worse from there, (36.8%) which is rare (usually the top 3 point shooters take a ton of corner 3s which inflates their percentages).

He posted an astronomical 68.7% True Shooting, that was good enough for 4th overall this season, behind only Jokic (MVP level player), Nic Claxton (nothing but dunks at the rim), and Mason Plumlee (ditto). The next three guards on that list are Steph Curry (13th overall, 65.6%), Damian Lillard (19th overall, 64.5%), and SGA (29th overall, 62.6%).

In the playoffs this year he put up some pretty fantastic numbers, 44.3% 3 point shooting and looked like the Lakers' 3rd best player most of the time, in the WCF he averaged over 20PPG on good efficiency and he's only 24.

just curious of these numbers what percentage of these is wide open?

A high percentage, but that's not an indictment of a player. For instance on NBA's shot tracking data, Steph had the second most open FGA last season. Jamal Murray was first. Obviously efficient players need a very healthy diet of open shots, but that's also because they're able to create those shots. That list is full of superstars.

Last season, Reaves had only 40% of his 2pt FG's assisted on, going down from 56% the year prior. He's also down 12% from 3pters assisted on, down to 86%. He can dribble up and pull up from 3 too, that's just not their offense. For major stretches of the playoffs, he was the Lakers' most talented shot creator.

[Richard4444]

The most the Lakers can offer Reaves is 4 years / $50.8 million. The most another team can over is 4 years / $98.7 million but the Lakers can match any offer. My telegraphing clearly that they would match any offer, interested teams may be dissuaded from signing Reaves to an offer sheet at all and tying up their cap for 24 hours. We may end up getting Reaves back for the 4 years / $50.8 million if everyone else thinks it’s a waste of time to sign him to an offer sheet, although if that is the case Reaves may opt to sign a shorter deal to get back on the market.

A guy who was basically fighting to stay in the league 5 min ago turning down 50mill guaranteed to take a shorter deal (like 20-30 mill guaranteed) is absolutely crazy.

He turned down being selected as a second-round to play for the Lakers as an undrafted player. But since his first games, he showed that he belongs in the league.

[Memories]

anyone else see this ending up the next Linsanity situation?

Absolutely. Play good for half a year, run to the bank and be average from then on.
When teams make a player a focal point of the defense, you see how good a player is.

Lol at bold. As if he hasn’t been playing well longer than that.

[ConSarnit]

The most the Lakers can offer Reaves is 4 years / $50.8 million. The most another team can over is 4 years / $98.7 million but the Lakers can match any offer. My telegraphing clearly that they would match any offer, interested teams may be dissuaded from signing Reaves to an offer sheet at all and tying up their cap for 24 hours. We may end up getting Reaves back for the 4 years / $50.8 million if everyone else thinks it’s a waste of time to sign him to an offer sheet, although if that is the case Reaves may opt to sign a shorter deal to get back on the market.

Reaves is going to go for as much money as he can get on the longest contract he can sign.
If another team plays it smart, they sign him to the $99mil and hope LA matches, ties up LA's future money. Do it early.

I can't believe we have to go through this again with Lakers fans. Lakers fans always have the most crazy unrealistic expectations when it comes to signing guys. Multiple posters thought Derozan would take the tax MLE for $6m. Instead he got 3/82m. They thought Kyrie would take the tax MLE for $6.5m. He opted in for $30m. Now they think Reaves is going to take 4/50, which is the freaking MLE. There are 15+ teams in the league that can offer Reaves the full MLE or more. But yes, of course Laker's fans, surely no one will offer Reaves a contract and you'll get him back on the cheap. Just like Demar and Kyrie.

[mademan]

The most the Lakers can offer Reaves is 4 years / $50.8 million. The most another team can over is 4 years / $98.7 million but the Lakers can match any offer. My telegraphing clearly that they would match any offer, interested teams may be dissuaded from signing Reaves to an offer sheet at all and tying up their cap for 24 hours. We may end up getting Reaves back for the 4 years / $50.8 million if everyone else thinks it’s a waste of time to sign him to an offer sheet, although if that is the case Reaves may opt to sign a shorter deal to get back on the market.

A guy who was basically fighting to stay in the league 5 min ago turning down 50mill guaranteed to take a shorter deal (like 20-30 mill guaranteed) is absolutely crazy.

He turned down being selected as a second-round to play for the Lakers as an undrafted player. But since his first games, he showed that he belongs in the league.

There's no real money in the 2nd round tho. Youre drafted by 1 team who control your rights and make the call as to whether they gave u a contract or dont. And they can wait until the end of training camp to cut you when other teams all have full rosters. It's not really a risk to turn down getting selected late in the 2nd round as not being drafted is often the better strategic play

[In-N-Out 247]

The most the Lakers can offer Reaves is 4 years / $50.8 million. The most another team can over is 4 years / $98.7 million but the Lakers can match any offer. My telegraphing clearly that they would match any offer, interested teams may be dissuaded from signing Reaves to an offer sheet at all and tying up their cap for 24 hours. We may end up getting Reaves back for the 4 years / $50.8 million if everyone else thinks it’s a waste of time to sign him to an offer sheet, although if that is the case Reaves may opt to sign a shorter deal to get back on the market.

Reaves is going to go for as much money as he can get on the longest contract he can sign.
If another team plays it smart, they sign him to the $99mil and hope LA matches, ties up LA's future money. Do it early.

I can't believe we have to go through this again with Lakers fans. Lakers fans always have the most crazy unrealistic expectations when it comes to signing guys. Multiple posters thought Derozan would take the tax MLE for $6m. Instead he got 3/82m. They thought Kyrie would take the tax MLE for $6.5m. He opted in for $30m. Now they think Reaves is going to take 4/50, which is the freaking MLE. There are 15+ teams in the league that can offer Reaves the full MLE or more. But yes, of course Laker's fans, surely no one will offer Reaves a contract and you'll get him back on the cheap. Just like Demar and Kyrie.

I suggest you familiarize yourself with the "Gilbert Arenas Provision" in the CBA. Teams are literally restricted from offering more than the MLE in the first year of an offer sheet to him. The Lakers will be able to match using the "Early Bird" Exception.

here is a link to it: http://www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q43

The very small percentage of people who thought DeRozan or Kyrie were going to take those huge discounts to play for the Lakers were delusional.

[Cavsfansince84]

anyone else see this ending up the next Linsanity situation?

Herro seems like a better comp.

[Liam_Gallagher]

His first two years are going to be about $13M each and the last two are going to be over $35M each.

They better believe he's the real deal and not a pretty good role player for that price.

[ORLMagicGirl15]

Who are the Lakers competing with? Austins been awesome, but not "that" good.

I can easily see the Magic or Thunder making that offer.

Not the Magic. We have Franz and Paolo that we’re going to paid soon. Austin’s contract will get in the way.

[liquidswords]

Reaves put up some incredible numbers in his second season, 39.8% 3 point shooting, only 26.4% of those attempts came from the corners and he actually shot worse from there, (36.8%) which is rare (usually the top 3 point shooters take a ton of corner 3s which inflates their percentages).

He posted an astronomical 68.7% True Shooting, that was good enough for 4th overall this season, behind only Jokic (MVP level player), Nic Claxton (nothing but dunks at the rim), and Mason Plumlee (ditto). The next three guards on that list are Steph Curry (13th overall, 65.6%), Damian Lillard (19th overall, 64.5%), and SGA (29th overall, 62.6%).

In the playoffs this year he put up some pretty fantastic numbers, 44.3% 3 point shooting and looked like the Lakers' 3rd best player most of the time, in the WCF he averaged over 20PPG on good efficiency and he's only 24.

just curious of these numbers what percentage of these is wide open?

A high percentage, but that's not an indictment of a player. For instance on NBA's shot tracking data, Steph had the second most open FGA last season. Jamal Murray was first. Obviously efficient players need a very healthy diet of open shots, but that's also because they're able to create those shots. That list is full of superstars.

Last season, Reaves had only 40% of his 2pt FG's assisted on, going down from 56% the year prior. He's also down 12% from 3pters assisted on, down to 86%. He can dribble up and pull up from 3 too, that's just not their offense. For major stretches of the playoffs, he was the Lakers' most talented shot creator.

Great numbers here - AR has a trajectory that is beyond that of a role player's. He's also relatively low maintenance and can tap in and out of being the featured guy.

[ConSarnit]

The most the Lakers can offer Reaves is 4 years / $50.8 million. The most another team can over is 4 years / $98.7 million but the Lakers can match any offer. My telegraphing clearly that they would match any offer, interested teams may be dissuaded from signing Reaves to an offer sheet at all and tying up their cap for 24 hours. We may end up getting Reaves back for the 4 years / $50.8 million if everyone else thinks it’s a waste of time to sign him to an offer sheet, although if that is the case Reaves may opt to sign a shorter deal to get back on the market.

A guy who was basically fighting to stay in the league 5 min ago turning down 50mill guaranteed to take a shorter deal (like 20-30 mill guaranteed) is absolutely crazy.

There is no world in which Reaves is taking a shorter deal that only nets him only $20-30m. His absolute floor is the MLE which is about 4/50 (really closer to $49m). If he takes the MLE he'll get a 3+1 with an opt out, which guarantees him $50m. Far more likely is someone offers him 4/60+ (probably higher) and he'll get $60m+ guaranteed. I'd imagine if he takes anything less than $16m/year he's going to want a player option to cover his bases.

4/50 (PO, $50m guaranteed)
4/60 (PO, $60m guaranteed)
3/45 (PO, $45m guaranteed)
4/80+ (maybe a team option? still $60m guaranteed)

Arenas rule makes these numbers not exact but the totals are likely close. Even an Arenas deal for 4/70 (11.3 + 11.9 + 23 + 24 (TO)) would get him close to $50m guaranteed if the last year was a team option (not sure if that's possible in an Arenas deal). Every single cap space team has more than enough room to make 4/70 work ($17.5m aav).

I would say there is a 95%+ chance Reaves gets $50m+ guaranteed over just 3 years.

[RunOKC]

His first two years are going to be about $13M each and the last two are going to be over $35M each.

They better believe he's the real deal and not a pretty good role player for that price.

True but at the least the lower salary years align with Lebron's contract and then they can tank in 25-2026 if needed when Lebron retires

They will match for sure

[The Laker Kid]

I can see the Clippers offering him that. They seem to want to copy everything the Lakers do

[Memories]

I can see the Clippers offering him that. They seem to want to copy everything the Lakers do

With what money?

[jbk1234]

The most the Lakers can offer Reaves is 4 years / $50.8 million. The most another team can over is 4 years / $98.7 million but the Lakers can match any offer. My telegraphing clearly that they would match any offer, interested teams may be dissuaded from signing Reaves to an offer sheet at all and tying up their cap for 24 hours. We may end up getting Reaves back for the 4 years / $50.8 million if everyone else thinks it’s a waste of time to sign him to an offer sheet, although if that is the case Reaves may opt to sign a shorter deal to get back on the market.

This is my read as well, but they should be careful with that because he can always play on the Q.O. if negotiations end up too acrimonious.

[Noodlesoop]

This is funny af. Bad career decision for him if Bron is there. Dude has played so good that when he has a few off games and the refs don’t bail him out, he’ll be mercilessly destroyed by the media. I called this SUPER early with DRuss and I’m calling it now.

You called Dlo playing poorly in the playoffs when we’ve seen the same thing happen before and it was highly likely to happen again? Wow, that’s really impressive.

[Bobbymcgee]

So the Lakers are basically telling the rest of the league not to offer him a 4 year / 100 million dollar contract so they can get away with signing him to a 4 year / 50 million dollar contract. Sounds like the Lakers are trying to screw over Reaves by being cheap.

[donkki]

Good role player, but at 100M? Damn..

[Gert42]

There's probably a 70% percent chance that this is the most money on a contract Reaves will make the rest of his NBA career. I see no circumstance that he doesn't go out and sign the RFA contract sheet for the most a team will offer him.

I also think the teams that might have interest in signing him, won't exactly have better options that they will be that worried about their cap space being tied up for 24 hours.

And I expect the Lakers to resign him at any amount.