Where you at Butler? Step up dude

VonlehCanPlay · Post #81 » by **VonlehCanPlay** » Mon Jun 5, 2023 4:15 am

Dupp wrote:Man’s getting straight carried

He sets the tone on both ends. FG% sucked but 9 assists to 1 TO isn't getting carried. Box score also doesn't tell the full story. Heat get blown out without him. His defense on Murray at the end... impeccable.

If (still crazy bit if) Heat win he might just take Finals MVP over Spo.

Pelly24 · Post #82 » by **Pelly24** » Mon Jun 5, 2023 4:54 am

I think he's likely banged up or worn down, he looks off balance on some of his layups, jumper has looked flat.

But that doesn't change what he did earlier in the playoffs, and it doesn't change that he is a Championship-level No. 1 option.

He hasn't kept up his Bucks pace, but he was excellent against the Knicks, who only won one game when he played. He was huge in the first two games of the Boston series, clearly dominating in multiple ways. He was bad in game 6, but he managed to do enough to win them the game at the end, it took a miraculous Derrick White shot for Boston to win that one. He did well enough in game 7.

Game 1 was bad. He was good enough today. Overall, this still ranks as a really good, All-NBA 2nd/1st team type of playoff run from Jimmy. He's played multiple roles, he did indeed outplay Giannis in back to back must-win games while torching Jrue Holiday and Middleton. He's still a great passer, he's still a top 10 player, still a good scorer, elite defender with elite IQ and underrated shot-making ability. I expect him to end this series averaging around 24/7/7 on 55 TS%, but that might not be good enough to get the job done.

But don't ignore what he's already done, and consider that the Heat are largely overachieving.

Grumpy Heat Fan · Post #83 » by **Grumpy Heat Fan** » Mon Jun 5, 2023 4:58 am

He has a bum ankle.

Don't downgrade the guy because he's playing injured. He is showing all heart, trying to win a ring on a bum ankle.

Onlytimewilltel · Post #84 » by **Onlytimewilltel** » Mon Jun 5, 2023 5:13 am

Jfh20 wrote:
durden_tyler wrote:
Jfh20 wrote:Yep, and this is going to be the 2nd time the heat go this far and lose.. at some point heat will have to accept that they cannot win a title with a sub par average player leading them. Juss waisting time

Eh that's two finals with them not being the "best" team in their conference. That only means they are lucky or very good and just another piece away in winning it all. You ride this final 3 years of Butler prime but you go aggressive in free agency and trades and see if you can get that final piece. Losing to Denver is expected and will happen but not a failure.

Absolutely a failure… can’t spin it…

Wait, what….. :lol:

They weren’t even supposed to get out of first round. Them beating the bucks was a success. Them making the finals and being even 1-1 with Denver in the freaking finals with this team is a successful season, no matter what happens next. :lol:

DBurks2818 · Post #85 » by **DBurks2818** » Mon Jun 5, 2023 5:21 am

Let's see how he looks outside of the Denver altitude as well. That, and he's still playing on a much-less-than-100% ankle as GHF mentioned above.

He is also definitely one to pick his spots at this point in both this season and this point in his career. He knew that he needed to continue feeding the shooters for them to get going in order for the Heat to have a chance. Game 1 they couldn't buy a bucket, and game 2 they could barely miss. If they continue to hit shots and the team puts increasing pressure on the Nuggets to make them in the half-court, he'll go back to getting more space/more single coverage and then dominating with it.

Potential · Post #86 » by **Potential** » Mon Jun 5, 2023 5:57 am

Potential wrote:Did you not watch game 2 of the Finals? He dropped 30 and the HEAT just stole homecourt advantage heading to Miami

Told yall since Friday. Jimmy with 30 pts + asts and the HEAT steal game 2. Big shots in the 4th too

Eagle4 · Post #87 » by **Eagle4** » Mon Jun 5, 2023 6:59 am

In what world is 21pts, 9assists, all nba defense on a bum ankle being carried?

Man the lengths people go to diminish Jimmy's effort.

Onlytimewilltel · Post #88 » by **Onlytimewilltel** » Mon Jun 5, 2023 8:25 am

Eagle4 wrote:In what world is 21pts, 9assists, all nba defense on a bum ankle being carried?

Man the lengths people go to diminish Jimmy's effort.

Haters will hate

Floody100 · Post #89 » by **Floody100** » Sat Jun 10, 2023 3:16 am

His stat line might like he had a good game but his impact was almost invisible.
So much him being supposedly Jordan’s son lol

Gday mate · Post #90 » by **Gday mate** » Sat Jun 10, 2023 3:19 am

Don't tell me Jimmy has quit on another team? I would have thought the hardest worker in the world wouldn't have these slumps :roll:

Woodsanity · Post #91 » by **Woodsanity** » Sat Jun 10, 2023 4:11 am

I blame Bam more.

Post #92 » by **DOT** » Sat Jun 10, 2023 4:16 am

As we all know, losing in the Finals is infinitely worse than not even making it to the playoffs

1 Finals loss was already devastating to Butler's legacy, I can't imagine what it'd be if he loses a 2nd one. Would be a case for one of the worst players of all time at that point.

BodieB · Post #93 » by **BodieB** » Sat Jun 10, 2023 4:28 am

The excuses are good a lined up for him again. Benefits of not really being a superstar player.

Tim Kempton · Post #94 » by **Tim Kempton** » Sat Jun 10, 2023 4:34 am

Anyone hating on Jimmy is honestly a loser. The Heat have NO business being here. They're here because of Jimmy. The role players played great during the playoffs but the reason why is because Butler draws so much attention that they get open looks. It could be a direct assist from Jimmy or defenders zeroing in on him off-ball, creating space. Gabe Vincent and Caleb Martin aren't magnificent shot creators. They get open looks because they play with a superstar.

Knicks Byke · Post #95 » by **Knicks Byke** » Sat Jun 10, 2023 4:39 am

fansse wrote:
marson wrote:did you skip Game 7 of ECF?

Lmaoooooo

bro thought he did something.

Floody100 · Post #96 » by **Floody100** » Sat Jun 10, 2023 5:06 am

Tim Kempton wrote:Anyone hating on Jimmy is honestly a loser. The Heat have NO business being here. They're here because of Jimmy. The role players played great during the playoffs but the reason why is because Butler draws so much attention that they get open looks. It could be a direct assist from Jimmy or defenders zeroing in on him off-ball, creating space. Gabe Vincent and Caleb Martin aren't magnificent shot creators. They get open looks because they play with a superstar.

I’m sick of this crap excuse. This team was the first seed last year & 1 win away from another finals appearance.
Am I now supposed to give this team excuses because they ran on auto-pilot during the regular season ?

Ckay · Post #97 » by **Ckay** » Sat Jun 10, 2023 5:09 am

It's Cancun time.

Taj FTW · Post #98 » by **Taj FTW** » Sat Jun 10, 2023 5:10 am

Jimmy "G" Buckets. The G stands for Garbage!

KodiakBear · Post #99 » by **KodiakBear** » Sat Jun 10, 2023 6:00 am

Tim Kempton wrote:Anyone hating on Jimmy is honestly a loser. The Heat have NO business being here. They're here because of Jimmy. The role players played great during the playoffs but the reason why is because Butler draws so much attention that they get open looks. It could be a direct assist from Jimmy or defenders zeroing in on him off-ball, creating space. Gabe Vincent and Caleb Martin aren't magnificent shot creators. They get open looks because they play with a superstar.

They aren't here solely because of jimmy. It wasn't butler going on his own personal 10-2 run in the 4th. The heat role players were great before these past two games

KodiakBear · Post #100 » by **KodiakBear** » Sat Jun 10, 2023 6:02 am

Floody100 wrote:
Tim Kempton wrote:Anyone hating on Jimmy is honestly a loser. The Heat have NO business being here. They're here because of Jimmy. The role players played great during the playoffs but the reason why is because Butler draws so much attention that they get open looks. It could be a direct assist from Jimmy or defenders zeroing in on him off-ball, creating space. Gabe Vincent and Caleb Martin aren't magnificent shot creators. They get open looks because they play with a superstar.

I’m sick of this crap excuse. This team was the first seed last year & 1 win away from another finals appearance.
Am I now supposed to give this team excuses because they ran on auto-pilot during the regular season ?

Yeah the heat were a shot away from the finals last year as the top seed and have mostly the same team this year. Yeah let's quit pretending they shouldn't be here. They belong they just have sucked.