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Post#1 » by UcanUwill » Sun Sep 10, 2023 10:55 pm

I know its a bit OT, and can be moved to draft or knock on wood, international board, but these are very unpopular, and mainly death sentence to discussion. So if it has any traction, moves, can you leave it on General board?

WHo are best young (lets say 20 and under) basketball players from your country. And please, could you give a comparison, what are their chances to make NBA? Picks and players can be debated, its encouraged.

I am from Lithuania, I will contribute first :

Motiejus Krivas (Arizona, 6'11, C) - comparison - Nikola Milutinov?
Strengths : post scoring, rebounding, strength, size
NBA chances are optimistic

Ąžuolas Tubelis (76ers two-way, 6'10, C) - comparison - Hartenstein?
Strengths : Scoring inside and near outside the post, passing, agility for his szie
NBA Chances are optimistic

Paulius Murauskas (Arizona, 6'8, SF) - comparison - Denadre Hunter?
Strengths : elite size for position, 3 level scoring potential
NBA chances are likely

Liutauras Lelevičius (Lietkabelis (LT), 6'6, SG) - comparison - Bogdan?
Strengths : Cutting, ball handling, shooting, passing
NBA chances are possible

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Post#3 » by AussieCeltic » Mon Sep 11, 2023 12:12 am

Giddey and Daniels are still 20 but the non NBA guys are.

Tyrese Proctor - projected to be in the lottery next draft. 6’4 guard who does a bit of everything. More of a scorer than Giddey/Daniels.

Rocco Zikarsky - 7’3 centre who is an elite rim running and fantastic defender. He has signed with my local team in the NBL and has not look out of place in our pre season. He’s just turned 17 and looks like he could be special.

Alex Toohey - 6’8 small forward who does a bit of everything. I think Franz Wagner is a decent comparison for him. Just signed with Sydney Kings for this NBL season and at this stage is expected to be a second round pick. I think that will rise as the season goes on.

Then there are the Furphy brothers. I don’t know much about them but Johnny is going to Kansas and is apparently the real deal.

These are exactly the type of guys Australia needs post Patty Mills/Joe Ingles era.
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Post#4 » by cupcakesnake » Mon Sep 11, 2023 12:18 am

Canada:
- just drafted O-Max and Leonard Miller. Both are interesting prospects that should get a shot to crack a rotation during their rookie contract.
- Zach Edey: Arguably the most dominant player in college basketball but still not a definite NBA player. Still had to convince the NBA he'll be able to stay on the floor against smaller lineups.
- Some current draft prospects: Yanis Bamba, Elijah Fisher, Efeosa Oliogu, Spencer Ahrens.
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Post#5 » by Mickey8 » Mon Sep 11, 2023 12:19 am

Nikola Topic 6"5 creative PG 18 yrs, Mitar Bosnjakovic 6"5 SG 16 years old, Nikola Djurisic 6"8 SG/SF 19 years old, Tristan Vukcevic 7"0 PF 20 yrs old, Bogoljub Markovic 6"11 PF, 18, Ognjen Stankovic 6"6 PG/SG 18 years old , Ognjen Radosic SG 17 years old , Pavle Backo 6"11 C 16 years old , Aleksa Dimitrijevic 6"11 C 17 years old, Ognjen Snzetic SG, 16 yrs. Those are the some Serbian prospects I expect a lot from in the future.
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Post#6 » by UcanUwill » Mon Sep 11, 2023 12:20 am

AussieCeltic wrote:Giddey and Daniels are still 20 but the non NBA guys are.

Tyrese Proctor - projected to be in the lottery next draft. 6’4 guard who does a bit of everything. More of a scorer than Giddey/Daniels.

Rocco Zikarsky - 7’3 centre who is an elite rim running and fantastic defender. He has signed with my local team in the NBL and has not look out of place in our pre season. He’s just turned 17 and looks like he could be special.

Alex Toohey - 6’8 small forward who does a bit of everything. I think Franz Wagner is a decent comparison for him. Just signed with Sydney Kings for this NBL season and at this stage is expected to be a second round pick. I think that will rise as the season goes on.

Then there are the Furphy brothers. I don’t know much about them but Johnny is going to Kansas and is apparently the real deal.

These are exactly the type of guys Australia needs post Patty Mills/Joe Ingles era.


Ok, I had to youtube Rocco Zikarsky after that introduction. Looks like if Boban was mobile, damn.
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cupcakesnake wrote:Canada:
- just drafted O-Max and Leonard Miller. Both are interesting prospects that should get a shot to crack a rotation during their rookie contract.
- Zach Edey: Arguably the most dominant player in college basketball but still not a definite NBA player. Still had to convince the NBA he'll be able to stay on the floor against smaller lineups.
- Some current draft prospects: Yanis Bamba, Elijah Fisher, Efeosa Oliogu, Spencer Ahrens.


Zach Edey sadly will probably never play in the NBA, but if he has good enough stamina, he could be something overseas, he is already there, I dont think he even needs much more further improvement. People say that if Tavares can be a star in EUroleague, Zach Edey will easily be that, but Tavares is a freak, his stamina is insane for a 7'3 guy, he can play entire halves without sub and he will look fresh. Europe really has no shortage of stiff bigs with some skill, but the problem usually that at a higher level, they ask a sub after every 3 minutes so.
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Post#9 » by AussieCeltic » Mon Sep 11, 2023 12:37 am

UcanUwill wrote:
AussieCeltic wrote:Giddey and Daniels are still 20 but the non NBA guys are.

Tyrese Proctor - projected to be in the lottery next draft. 6’4 guard who does a bit of everything. More of a scorer than Giddey/Daniels.

Rocco Zikarsky - 7’3 centre who is an elite rim running and fantastic defender. He has signed with my local team in the NBL and has not look out of place in our pre season. He’s just turned 17 and looks like he could be special.

Alex Toohey - 6’8 small forward who does a bit of everything. I think Franz Wagner is a decent comparison for him. Just signed with Sydney Kings for this NBL season and at this stage is expected to be a second round pick. I think that will rise as the season goes on.

Then there are the Furphy brothers. I don’t know much about them but Johnny is going to Kansas and is apparently the real deal.

These are exactly the type of guys Australia needs post Patty Mills/Joe Ingles era.


Ok, I had to youtube Rocco Zikarsky after that introduction. Looks like if Boban was mobile, damn.


Very mobile and coordinated for a 7’3 guy. Obviously not like Wemby but more of a traditional big man. Can get up and down the floor and has been a shot blocking machine so far. I’m excited to see how he progresses.
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Post#10 » by cupcakesnake » Mon Sep 11, 2023 1:41 am

UcanUwill wrote:
cupcakesnake wrote:Canada:
- just drafted O-Max and Leonard Miller. Both are interesting prospects that should get a shot to crack a rotation during their rookie contract.
- Zach Edey: Arguably the most dominant player in college basketball but still not a definite NBA player. Still had to convince the NBA he'll be able to stay on the floor against smaller lineups.
- Some current draft prospects: Yanis Bamba, Elijah Fisher, Efeosa Oliogu, Spencer Ahrens.


Zach Edey sadly will probably never play in the NBA, but if he has good enough stamina, he could be something overseas, he is already there, I dont think he even needs much more further improvement. People say that if Tavares can be a star in EUroleague, Zach Edey will easily be that, but Tavares is a freak, his stamina is insane for a 7'3 guy, he can play entire halves without sub and he will look fresh. Europe really has no shortage of stiff bigs with some skill, but the problem usually that at a higher level, they ask a sub after every 3 minutes so.


He played 32mpg this past season and also only averaged 1.6 fouls per game (to 2.1 blocks).

I don't think he has the lateral quicks to be an NBA defender, but his mobility in the pick & roll looks pretty good. I think he has some more potential than he's shown, as a passer and a shooter too. If he has another monster season in college, he'll likely at least have a cup of tea with the NBA.
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Post#11 » by Blame Rasho » Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:08 am

cupcakesnake wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
cupcakesnake wrote:Canada:
- just drafted O-Max and Leonard Miller. Both are interesting prospects that should get a shot to crack a rotation during their rookie contract.
- Zach Edey: Arguably the most dominant player in college basketball but still not a definite NBA player. Still had to convince the NBA he'll be able to stay on the floor against smaller lineups.
- Some current draft prospects: Yanis Bamba, Elijah Fisher, Efeosa Oliogu, Spencer Ahrens.


Zach Edey sadly will probably never play in the NBA, but if he has good enough stamina, he could be something overseas, he is already there, I dont think he even needs much more further improvement. People say that if Tavares can be a star in EUroleague, Zach Edey will easily be that, but Tavares is a freak, his stamina is insane for a 7'3 guy, he can play entire halves without sub and he will look fresh. Europe really has no shortage of stiff bigs with some skill, but the problem usually that at a higher level, they ask a sub after every 3 minutes so.


He played 32mpg this past season and also only averaged 1.6 fouls per game (to 2.1 blocks).

I don't think he has the lateral quicks to be an NBA defender, but his mobility in the pick & roll looks pretty good. I think he has some more potential than he's shown, as a passer and a shooter too. If he has another monster season in college, he'll likely at least have a cup of tea with the NBA.


If a 16 seed college team(Farleigh Dickinson) can neutralize him, I think it is safe to assume will have significant problems vs real pros.
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Post#12 » by cupcakesnake » Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:19 am

Blame Rasho wrote:
cupcakesnake wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
Zach Edey sadly will probably never play in the NBA, but if he has good enough stamina, he could be something overseas, he is already there, I dont think he even needs much more further improvement. People say that if Tavares can be a star in EUroleague, Zach Edey will easily be that, but Tavares is a freak, his stamina is insane for a 7'3 guy, he can play entire halves without sub and he will look fresh. Europe really has no shortage of stiff bigs with some skill, but the problem usually that at a higher level, they ask a sub after every 3 minutes so.


He played 32mpg this past season and also only averaged 1.6 fouls per game (to 2.1 blocks).

I don't think he has the lateral quicks to be an NBA defender, but his mobility in the pick & roll looks pretty good. I think he has some more potential than he's shown, as a passer and a shooter too. If he has another monster season in college, he'll likely at least have a cup of tea with the NBA.


If a 16 seed college team(Farleigh Dickinson) can neutralize him, I think it is safe to assume will have significant problems vs real pros.


Sure but would he ever be the #1 priority of a defensive gameplan in the NBA?
(Also, going for 21 points on 7-11 shooting and 7-10 FT + 15 boards... makes "neutralize" come off a bit strong. It was also 1 game.)
I'm not arguing that he's a good NBA prospect though.
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Post#13 » by Blame Rasho » Mon Sep 11, 2023 2:26 am

cupcakesnake wrote:
Blame Rasho wrote:
cupcakesnake wrote:
He played 32mpg this past season and also only averaged 1.6 fouls per game (to 2.1 blocks).

I don't think he has the lateral quicks to be an NBA defender, but his mobility in the pick & roll looks pretty good. I think he has some more potential than he's shown, as a passer and a shooter too. If he has another monster season in college, he'll likely at least have a cup of tea with the NBA.


If a 16 seed college team(Farleigh Dickinson) can neutralize him, I think it is safe to assume will have significant problems vs real pros.


Sure but would he ever be the #1 priority of a defensive gameplan in the NBA?
(Also, going for 21 points on 7-11 shooting and 7-10 FT + 15 boards... makes "neutralize" come off a bit strong. It was also 1 game.)
I'm not arguing that he's a good NBA prospect though.


Edey finished with 21 points and 15 rebounds in what may have been his final college game, but the Knights were masterful against him in the second half. Edey didn't attempt a shot in the final nine minutes, and anytime he touched the ball there were FDU players draped all around him.

“A lot of times they would have one dude guarding from behind and one dude basically sitting in my lap,” Edey said. “They were full fronting the entire game. Made it very hard to get catches. Credit to them, they had a great game plan coming in. And they executed it very well.”
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Post#15 » by ItsDanger » Mon Sep 11, 2023 4:54 am

UcanUwill wrote:
cupcakesnake wrote:Canada:
- just drafted O-Max and Leonard Miller. Both are interesting prospects that should get a shot to crack a rotation during their rookie contract.
- Zach Edey: Arguably the most dominant player in college basketball but still not a definite NBA player. Still had to convince the NBA he'll be able to stay on the floor against smaller lineups.
- Some current draft prospects: Yanis Bamba, Elijah Fisher, Efeosa Oliogu, Spencer Ahrens.


Zach Edey sadly will probably never play in the NBA, but if he has good enough stamina, he could be something overseas, he is already there, I dont think he even needs much more further improvement. People say that if Tavares can be a star in EUroleague, Zach Edey will easily be that, but Tavares is a freak, his stamina is insane for a 7'3 guy, he can play entire halves without sub and he will look fresh. Europe really has no shortage of stiff bigs with some skill, but the problem usually that at a higher level, they ask a sub after every 3 minutes so.

He played 43 minutes in one game this past season and you're talking about fatigue after 3 minutes? No one looks fresh if the pace is high, even small guards. Doesn't need to max out minutes regardless. I have yet to see a sequence where his utilization matches what he does at Purdue, he must be paired with the right PG.
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Post#16 » by UcanUwill » Mon Sep 11, 2023 7:36 am

ItsDanger wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
cupcakesnake wrote:Canada:
- just drafted O-Max and Leonard Miller. Both are interesting prospects that should get a shot to crack a rotation during their rookie contract.
- Zach Edey: Arguably the most dominant player in college basketball but still not a definite NBA player. Still had to convince the NBA he'll be able to stay on the floor against smaller lineups.
- Some current draft prospects: Yanis Bamba, Elijah Fisher, Efeosa Oliogu, Spencer Ahrens.


Zach Edey sadly will probably never play in the NBA, but if he has good enough stamina, he could be something overseas, he is already there, I dont think he even needs much more further improvement. People say that if Tavares can be a star in EUroleague, Zach Edey will easily be that, but Tavares is a freak, his stamina is insane for a 7'3 guy, he can play entire halves without sub and he will look fresh. Europe really has no shortage of stiff bigs with some skill, but the problem usually that at a higher level, they ask a sub after every 3 minutes so.

He played 43 minutes in one game this past season and you're talking about fatigue after 3 minutes? No one looks fresh if the pace is high, even small guards. Doesn't need to max out minutes regardless. I have yet to see a sequence where his utilization matches what he does at Purdue, he must be paired with the right PG.


SO, he can play, thats good to know. I wasnt claiming he can't, I just didnt know if he can. If he plays 43 minutes in games, he obviously can do damage at pro level somewhere.

P.S. I would like to hear AMerican take on their top 5 prospects. I assume Cooper would be number 1?
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Post#17 » by Chuck Everett » Mon Sep 11, 2023 10:12 am

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cupcakesnake wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:
Zach Edey sadly will probably never play in the NBA, but if he has good enough stamina, he could be something overseas, he is already there, I dont think he even needs much more further improvement. People say that if Tavares can be a star in EUroleague, Zach Edey will easily be that, but Tavares is a freak, his stamina is insane for a 7'3 guy, he can play entire halves without sub and he will look fresh. Europe really has no shortage of stiff bigs with some skill, but the problem usually that at a higher level, they ask a sub after every 3 minutes so.


He played 32mpg this past season and also only averaged 1.6 fouls per game (to 2.1 blocks).

I don't think he has the lateral quicks to be an NBA defender, but his mobility in the pick & roll looks pretty good. I think he has some more potential than he's shown, as a passer and a shooter too. If he has another monster season in college, he'll likely at least have a cup of tea with the NBA.


If a 16 seed college team(Farleigh Dickinson) can neutralize him, I think it is safe to assume will have significant problems vs real pros.


That game was not his fault. Purdue is coached by a stubborn idiot, who never goes zone and has no type of imagination. Painter does win a lot of regular season games though, just expect him to fold come tourney time.
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Post#18 » by maverick4178 » Mon Sep 11, 2023 11:08 am

Ok, as I mentioned in the World Cup thread, I am not that knowledgable about our prospects in Germany, but I did a little research, looking into the recent performances of our U20, U18, U16 and U15 national teams, looking at some youngsters that have already played in our top pro league (BBL) and the top performers in our youth leagues (NBBL and JBBL). So, this is based solely on stats and some game recaps. I have not seen a single one of these players play, yet. Because of that the list is actually longer than it probably should be.
I can't even say if there is anyone with legit NBA upside in the mix.

I sorted them alphabetically:

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Weight: n/a
Age (born in): 16 (2007)

Name: Jacob Ensminger
Position: Point Guard / Shooting Guard
Team: ratiopharm Ulm (BBL)
Height: 6'9''
Weight: 205lbs
Age (born in): 19 (2004)

Name: Sananda Fru
Position: Power Forward
Team: Basketball Löwen Braunschweig (BBL)
Height: 6'9''
Weight: 221lbs
Age (born in): 20 (2003)

Name: Mathieu Grujicic
Position: Point Guard
Team: Alba Berlin (JBBL)
Height: 6'4''
Weight: 163lbs
Age (born in): 16 (2007)

Name: Johann Grünloh
Position: Power Forward / Center
Team: Young Rasta Dragons (NBBL)
Height: 6'10''
Weight: 229lbs
Age (born in): 18 (2005)

Name: Jack Kayil
Position: Point Guard
Team: Young Rasta Dragons (NBBL)
Height: 6'3''
Weight: 174lbs
Age (born in): 17 (2006)

Name: Fabian Kayser
Position: Shooting Guard
Team: Baskets Paderborn (JBBL)
Height: 6'6''
Weight: 183lbs
Age (born in): 14 (2009)

Name: Ivan Kharchenkov
Position: Shooting Guard / Point Guard
Team: Bayern München (BBL)
Height: 6'6''
Weight: 218lbs
Age (born in): 16 (2006)

Name: Elias Jose Rapieque
Position: Point Guard
Team: Alba Berlin (BBL)
Height: 6'7''
Weight: 199lbs
Age (born in): 19 (2004)

Name: Benjamin Schröder
Position: Small Forward
Team: George Washington University
Height: 6'7''
Weight: 200lbs
Age (born in): 20 (2003)

Duru seems like the most promising. https://nbadraftroom.com/declan-duru/
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Re: Post WC vibes, to fellow international (and American) members : Best young NBA prospects from your country are..? 

Post#19 » by LuDux1 » Mon Sep 11, 2023 11:38 am

UcanUwill wrote:
Ąžuolas Tubelis (76ers two-way, 6'10, C) - comparison - Hartenstein?
Strengths : Scoring inside and near outside the post, passing, agility for his szie
NBA Chances are optimistic


They should be, he already has two way contract with 76ers

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Re: Post WC vibes, to fellow international (and American) members : Best young NBA prospects from your country are..? 

Post#20 » by Phreak50 » Mon Sep 11, 2023 12:19 pm

Two young French prospects to the Spurs obviously but how about 18 year old Alexandre Sarr?

7’1 and legit moves like a guard. France shooting for the 5, 7 footer lineup some day.

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