[Wiretap] Quickley wanted $25 million per year

JJ_PR · Post #1 » by **JJ_PR** » Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:12 pm

Immanuel Quickley was reportedly looking for a contract extension of around $25 million a season, according to SNY.

The Knicks failed to come to terms with Quickley, with the guard set to become a restricted free agent this summer.

Quickley will make $4.1 million this year. The Knicks will be able to offer a $6.1 million qualifying offer this upcoming offseason.

Quickley averaged 14.9 points and 4.2 rebounds per game last season.

Thoughts? He's fairly young & has some potential, but $25 million seems a bit high.

UcanUwill · Post #2 » by **UcanUwill** » Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:16 pm

Likewise, Emanuel, likewise.

I would give him 17

Post #3 » by **jbk1234** » Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:18 pm

It's low for a starter and there are teams, including the Spurs and Magic who will have the cap space, for whom he could start.

Rendei · Post #4 » by **Rendei** » Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:18 pm

He's young, plays great defense, and is fairly efficient already. He's going to want more than 25 next offseason and someone will be willing to give it to him.

Godymas · Post #5 » by **Godymas** » Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:31 pm

he was electric in their first game, but disappeared in their playoffs last year. Postseason is where players get paid (like Brunson).

With that said, $25 million a year is less than what Tyler Herro gets paid and I would rather have Quickley than Herro right now. It's what Cam Johnson got extended for as well.

Yes, $25 million is actually a fair deal for someone like Quickley, basically a starting SG next to Brunson.

And, to be honest, I have no clue why the Knicks DIDN'T extend Quickley considering Fournier's money comes off the books after this season.

giberish · Post #6 » by **giberish** » Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:32 pm

He's certainly starter-quality overall, and going forward $25M/yr is about 4th starter money.

The big catch is that he's too small to start next to Brunson. So he doesn't have a long-term starter role going forward on the Knicks. With New York he's limited to 24 mpg type role backing up Brunson and playing a few minutes at SG (the Knicks also have several other SG options). That's more of a $15-18M/yr role going forward even with the rising cap/tax lines.

It wouldn't be surprising to see him dealt to a team that wants him as a starter going forward. Or else he'll sign a starting PG contract next summer with someone.

realball · Post #7 » by **realball** » Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:34 pm

jbk1234 wrote:It's low for a starter and there are teams, including the Spurs and Magic who will have the cap space, for whom he could start.

Magic just gave Cole Anthony an extension. They still have Fultz and Black. They are not in the running for Quickley.

EDIT: Forgot about Suggs too.

Airmiess · Post #8 » by **Airmiess** » Fri Oct 27, 2023 2:38 pm

Rendei wrote:He's young, plays great defense, and is fairly efficient already. He's going to want more than 25 next offseason and someone will be willing to give it to him.

Ill take a bet on that.

Post #9 » by **jbk1234** » Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:09 pm

realball wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:It's low for a starter and there are teams, including the Spurs and Magic who will have the cap space, for whom he could start.

Magic just gave Cole Anthony an extension. They still have Fultz and Black. They are not in the running for Quickley.

EDIT: Forgot about Suggs too.

None of those players are presently better than IQ. The Magic strike me as a team that's ready to start winning again. Plus, if the number is too big to match, the Knicks would probably take Anthony back in a S&T. Also, the Raptors have needed to upgrade their bench guards since they traded Lowry. They could be a landing spot for Anthony.

cgf · Post #10 » by **cgf** » Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:11 pm

I'd have given it to him...I'd have gone up to the Poole deal to lock him down early while trying to get him for RJ-money or less...but I guess it depends on how much more he can get this summer and if he'll be tempted to leave for a bigger role on a younger team now that we've let him get to FA.

I'll understand it if he does leave to start for the Spurs, Pistons, Magic, etc...but he's the most "NYC" of all our players, as he really enjoys the limelight of being a star/celeb in a megacity. So I would expect him to stay if the money & roles being offered are similar.

ItsDanger · Post #11 » by **ItsDanger** » Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:11 pm

Spurs could offer that and Knicks will have to match.

Tor_Raps · Post #12 » by **Tor_Raps** » Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:12 pm

He saw Fred get paid 40M and thought it was only fair lol.

cgf · Post #13 » by **cgf** » Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:15 pm

realball wrote:
jbk1234 wrote:It's low for a starter and there are teams, including the Spurs and Magic who will have the cap space, for whom he could start.

Magic just gave Cole Anthony an extension. They still have Fultz and Black. They are not in the running for Quickley.

EDIT: Forgot about Suggs too.

Orlando might not go for him...as a Knicks fan I certainly hope that they won't...but that poster said Quickley could start for them, and IQ is better today than everyone you named.

GSWFan1994 · Post #14 » by **GSWFan1994** » Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:17 pm

Crazy as it may sound, he could get even more than that by next off-season.

cgf · Post #15 » by **cgf** » Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:19 pm

GSWFan1994 wrote:Crazy as it may sound, he could get even more than that by next off-season.

It's not even that crazy. He doesn't need to take a huge step to become a quality starter, whether as a lead- or off-guard, and 30M+ for a quality starter is pretty par for the course.

MrGoat · Post #16 » by **MrGoat** » Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:27 pm

If you've seen some of the contracts they were throwing around this offseason and remember they will only get bigger next offseason, yes, he's worth that

Hoppy1 · Post #17 » by **Hoppy1** » Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:39 pm

jbk1234 wrote:It's low for a starter and there are teams, including the Spurs and Magic who will have the cap space, for whom he could start.

Magic don't need him.
Look around the league and who needs a PG that has yet to be an every game starter but has potential. Off the top of my head:
Philly
Miami
Minnesota
NO
Chicago
Phoenix
Toronto
Clippers
Spurs
I am sure there are others. Then which of those with a need also have the $25mm Quickley wants.
Toronto (depending on Siakam)
San Antonio (if you see Quickley as better than Graham and Jones)

Post #18 » by **Capn'O** » Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:40 pm

My guess is that they are looking at trades that include him. Once you ink an extension the math is difficult.

cgf · Post #19 » by **cgf** » Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:45 pm

giberish wrote:He's certainly starter-quality overall, and going forward $25M/yr is about 4th starter money.

The big catch is that he's too small to start next to Brunson. So he doesn't have a long-term starter role going forward on the Knicks. With New York he's limited to 24 mpg type role backing up Brunson and playing a few minutes at SG (the Knicks also have several other SG options). That's more of a $15-18M/yr role going forward even with the rising cap/tax lines.

It wouldn't be surprising to see him dealt to a team that wants him as a starter going forward. Or else he'll sign a starting PG contract next summer with someone.

Gunna have to disagree with the bolded, IQ's length & strength let him defend up very effectively, so he closes games next to Brunson regularly...that's how he averaged almost 29mpg last season, not 24mpg...Quickley, Grimes, & Hart all got nearly 30mpg behind our mid 3.

The main reason Quickley hasn't started for us has been that we've needed more playmaking with our 2nd unit* and that Grimes has just been a better for the starting lineup...he's our best perimeter defender and best non-Brunson shooter, with enough skills to kill closeouts & keep the ball moving.

*though swapping Toppin for DiVincenzo with that group could free IQ to start more often this season

Hoppy1 · Post #20 » by **Hoppy1** » Fri Oct 27, 2023 4:46 pm

GSWFan1994 wrote:Crazy as it may sound, he could get even more than that by next off-season.

From who? Not a lot of teams have the space AND have an opening at PG.

Is Quickley worth $25 million per season?