The irony: Lakers complain to league about calls

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The irony: Lakers complain to league about calls 

Post#1 » by Dominator83 » Tue Nov 7, 2023 9:55 pm

https://www.si.com/nba/2023/11/07/lakers-complain-to-nba-about-lack-of-calls-for-lebron-james

The team that has benefited the most in NBA history from phantom reffing, complaints about lack of calls. Cry me a river.
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Re: The irony: Lakers complain to league about calls 

Post#2 » by Karate Diop » Tue Nov 7, 2023 9:59 pm

Dominator83 wrote:https://www.si.com/nba/2023/11/07/lakers-complain-to-nba-about-lack-of-calls-for-lebron-james

The team that has benefited the most in NBA history from phantom reffing, complaints about lack of calls. Cry me a river.


Anytime the Lakers, Celtics or Warriors complain about calls I get an uncontrollable fit of laughter :lol:
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Post#3 » by JN61 » Tue Nov 7, 2023 10:03 pm

Oh no. Lakers/Lebron isn't getting favorable call 90% of the time. Just 70% of the time. Unacceptable
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Re: The irony: Lakers complain to league about calls 

Post#4 » by FrobeBryant » Tue Nov 7, 2023 10:08 pm

If you watched the game last night you’d see how many times LeBron got hit with no call. He shot 4 free throws last night even though he was driving it in for the most part. He’s averaging a career low in FTA. You suggest he just suck it up and continue getting hit without complaining?
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Post#5 » by JRoy » Tue Nov 7, 2023 10:08 pm

JN61 wrote:Oh no. Lakers/Lebron isn't getting favorable call 90% of the time. Just 70% of the time. Unacceptable


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Post#6 » by levon » Tue Nov 7, 2023 10:24 pm

FrobeBryant wrote:If you watched the game last night you’d see how many times LeBron got hit with no call. He shot 4 free throws last night even though he was driving it in for the most part. He’s averaging a career low in FTA. You suggest he just suck it up and continue getting hit without complaining?

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Post#7 » by AussieCeltic » Tue Nov 7, 2023 10:27 pm

When you’re used to the below, I can see why they’d be upset.

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Re: The irony: Lakers complain to league about calls 

Post#8 » by NyKnicks1714 » Tue Nov 7, 2023 10:30 pm

Too many people adhere to narratives instead of looking at the details. Have the Lakers historically received favorable officiating at times? Sure. Are refs missing calls when LeBron goes to the basket? Also yes. Both these things can be true. Even after that infamous Tatum no-call last season, there were a couple of posters (not many to be fair) trying to convince everyone that it was a good no-call. That's just peak delusion.
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Post#10 » by Quattro » Tue Nov 7, 2023 10:44 pm

AussieCeltic wrote:When you’re used to the below, I can see why they’d be upset.

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Crazy! That number should clearly be closer to 1000. Poor Lebron.
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Post#11 » by zimpy27 » Tue Nov 7, 2023 10:46 pm

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Post#12 » by Wallace_Wallace » Tue Nov 7, 2023 10:50 pm

FrobeBryant wrote:If you watched the game last night you’d see how many times LeBron got hit with no call. He shot 4 free throws last night even though he was driving it in for the most part. He’s averaging a career low in FTA. You suggest he just suck it up and continue getting hit without complaining?


Last postseason you have the most fearless rim attacker in Austin Reeves shooting only 24 total free throws in a series versus Ja Morant, a passable athlete, who shot 26. I don't know why the Lakers don't complain to the league right then and there.

Not to mention, Austin Reeves is also one of the most active and effective offball players of all time......him shooting only 18 total free throws in a series against Steph Curry, a career spot up shooter, who shot 17 just boils my blood.
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Post#13 » by DavidSterned » Tue Nov 7, 2023 10:52 pm

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Post#14 » by Lalouie » Tue Nov 7, 2023 10:59 pm

klutch has to start repping refs

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Post#15 » by Asian Celtic » Tue Nov 7, 2023 11:18 pm

Must be his reputation of flopping, the refs trying to hold the whistle thinking they'll avoid a whistle on a flop.

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Post#16 » by cupcakesnake » Tue Nov 7, 2023 11:21 pm

Lebron's monster strength is a double edged sword for contact. He makes contact look like...not contact because it doesn't look like anyone bothered him. This used to not matter, because Lebron was so explosive he forced defenders into awkward situations where the fouls were more obvious. His first step is gone now (has been since 2020 or 2021), so his offensive style is more deliberate and draws less fouls.

The best example I can think of is Embiid vs. Jokic (I'm not talking about flopping here). Both of them get fouled constantly, but Embiid's ability to create separation with his first step forces defenders to try to recover and make the fouls obvious. Jokic gains no seperation so even though he's literally bleeding from his arms most games, he draws half the fouls. Lebron doesn't gain the same level of seperation, so even though he takes a ton of contact, his ability to draw fouls is more Jokic than Embiid now.

The human eye can't measure force on fouls. I don't really see what we can do about this.
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Post#17 » by GeorgeSears » Tue Nov 7, 2023 11:27 pm

LeBron's avg. roughly the same amount of FTAs as he has been the last 5 seasons. I get the complaint about last night, but historically speaking he's not getting screwed.
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Re: The irony: Lakers complain to league about calls 

Post#18 » by NyKnicks1714 » Tue Nov 7, 2023 11:28 pm

cupcakesnake wrote:Lebron's monster strength is a double edged sword for contact. He makes contact look like...not contact because it doesn't look like anyone bothered him. This used to not matter, because Lebron was so explosive he forced defenders into awkward situations where the fouls were more obvious. His first step is gone now (has been since 2020 or 2021), so his offensive style is more deliberate and draws less fouls.

The best example I can think of is Embiid vs. Jokic (I'm not talking about flopping here). Both of them get fouled constantly, but Embiid's ability to create separation with his first step forces defenders to try to recover and make the fouls obvious. Jokic gains no seperation so even though he's literally bleeding from his arms most games, he draws half the fouls. Lebron doesn't gain the same level of seperation, so even though he takes a ton of contact, his ability to draw fouls is more Jokic than Embiid now.

The human eye can't measure force on fouls. I don't really see what we can do about this.


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Re: The irony: Lakers complain to league about calls 

Post#19 » by Wallace_Wallace » Tue Nov 7, 2023 11:28 pm

cupcakesnake wrote:Lebron's monster strength is a double edged sword for contact. He makes contact look like...not contact because it doesn't look like anyone bothered him. This used to not matter, because Lebron was so explosive he forced defenders into awkward situations where the fouls were more obvious. His first step is gone now (has been since 2020 or 2021), so his offensive style is more deliberate and draws less fouls.

The best example I can think of is Embiid vs. Jokic (I'm not talking about flopping here). Both of them get fouled constantly, but Embiid's ability to create separation with his first step forces defenders to try to recover and make the fouls obvious. Jokic gains no separation so even though he's literally bleeding from his arms most games, he draws half the fouls. Lebron doesn't gain the same level of separation, so even though he takes a ton of contact, his ability to draw fouls is more Jokic than Embiid now.

The human eye can't measure force on fouls. I don't really see what we can do about this.


I have more issues with the defensive end. The Lakers are often allowed more contact on the defensive end resulting in tougher shots for their opponents while the Lakers get a friendly whistle on the other end. They are allowed be physical, but the calls are not called with the consistency.

I don't remember the last time Lebron James or Anthony Davis got into foul trouble, but I do remember plenty of times Steph Curry or Nikola Jokic got whistled for touch fouls on defense.
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Re: The irony: Lakers complain to league about calls 

Post#20 » by Caped Crusader » Tue Nov 7, 2023 11:28 pm

FrobeBryant wrote:If you watched the game last night you’d see how many times LeBron got hit with no call. He shot 4 free throws last night even though he was driving it in for the most part. He’s averaging a career low in FTA. You suggest he just suck it up and continue getting hit without complaining?


Did you ever think that it's maybe because he's not getting fouled? That teams are just playing good defense against him and that he just can't draw fouls as good as he used to now that he's in his advanced age?

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