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Indiana Pacers Legend George McGinnis Passed Away

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:45 am
by WillyJakkz
I remember him from Sixers highlights with Dr J but he was best known as an Indiana Pacer.

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George McGinnis
https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/m/mcginge01.html

Rest In Peace Legend

Re: Indiana Pacers Legend George McGinnis Passed Away

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:47 am
by jkvonny
Oh dang! RIP.

Great player. 2 time ABA champion, Indiana Pacers.

Re: Indiana Pacers Legend George McGinnis Passed Away

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:49 am
by JRoy
RIP champ.

Re: Indiana Pacers Legend George McGinnis Passed Away

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:49 am
by boomershadow
Very sad. Was just talking about him the other day actually.

Re: Indiana Pacers Legend George McGinnis Passed Away

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:01 am
by Roscoe Sheed
sad to see the ABA legends pass away. I wish there was more footage of the ABA- the best basketball book I've ever read was "Loose Balls" by Terry Pluto- essentially an oral history of the ABA

Re: Indiana Pacers Legend George McGinnis Passed Away

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:10 am
by GSWFan1994
One of the greatest players of the 70s.

During a five year stretch (age 22 to 26), he averaged 27/14//4 + 2.9 stocks, albeit with a very high turnover rate (he had 5.3/game in 1974/1975, which IIRC was a record until James Harden broke it later on, with 5.7/game in 2016/2017).

He was part of that 76ers team which lost to Bill Walton's Blazers in the 1977 Finals.

He only played until 31 years old, I don't know why though.

All in all, a decorated career:

6x All-Star
5x All-NBA/ABA team
2x ABA champ
1974/1975 ABA MVP
17k points / 9k rebounds / 3k assists
Member of ABA All-Time team
... and a Hall of Famer, obviously.

RIP.

Re: Indiana Pacers Legend George McGinnis Passed Away

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:28 am
by kcktiny
A superstar in the ABA, a star in the NBA.

Many know how great he was with the Pacers in the ABA, but I would bet most do not know that his first four years in the NBA (1975-76 to 1978-79, 3 years with Philly, 1 year with Denver) among all NBA PFs McGinnis was:

- 2nd in points scored with 6761 (21.8 pts/g, only Elvin Hayes scored more)
- 2nd in rebounds with 3552 (11.5 reb/g, only Hayes had more)
- 1st in FTAs with 2527 (8.2 FTA/g)
- 1st in assists with 1238 (4.0 ast/g)
- 1st in steals with 627 (2.0 ST/g)

Re: Indiana Pacers Legend George McGinnis Passed Away

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:32 am
by wojoaderge
My 2nd all-time favorite player. He is the "ge" in wojoaderge

Re: Indiana Pacers Legend George McGinnis Passed Away

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:36 am
by One_and_Done
One of the best players most fans have never heard of.

Re: Indiana Pacers Legend George McGinnis Passed Away

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:55 am
by 76ersForLife
He was a terriric player but not a great fit with the 76ers. One of the best trades in 76ers history was when they traded him for Bobby Jones.

RIP.

Re: Indiana Pacers Legend George McGinnis Passed Away

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:36 am
by HeartBreakKid
RIP

Re: Indiana Pacers Legend George McGinnis Passed Away

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 6:08 am
by slicedbread2
GSWFan1994 wrote:One of the greatest players of the 70s.

During a five year stretch (age 22 to 26), he averaged 27/14//4 + 2.9 stocks, albeit with a very high turnover rate (he had 5.3/game in 1974/1975, which IIRC was a record until James Harden broke it later on, with 5.7/game in 2016/2017).

He was part of that 76ers team which lost to Bill Walton's Blazers in the 1977 Finals.

He only played until 31 years old, I don't know why though.

All in all, a decorated career:

6x All-Star
5x All-NBA/ABA team
2x ABA champ
1974/1975 ABA MVP
17k points / 9k rebounds / 3k assists
Member of ABA All-Time team
... and a Hall of Famer, obviously.

RIP.


It was confirmed that he suffered back problems later on in life that resulted in multiple surgeries. I wouldn't be surprised if his back had given out and doctors told him to retire in order to preserve a decent quality of life. He was a part of 2 deals involving Denver:

1) Denver sent eventual hall of famer 76ers legend Bobby Jones to Philadelphia for McGinnis. Sadly McGinnis was a flop while Jones became a legend who is considered to be one of the nicest guys ever to play the game due to his honesty and stoic nature. The Nuggets had buyers remorse and did the following.

2) Traded him to Indiana for Alex English. Pacers ownership was desperate for nostalgia from the ABA days to help boost sagging attendance during the early post merger years. Sadly for the Pacers, McGinnis was well past his prime while English would be one of the defining players of the 80's in the Nuggets' rainbow inspired uniforms(looked like Tetris when it really was a bunch of blocks that formed a mosaic of Denver's skyline).

Nonetheless McGinnis is forever a legend in the land of Hoosiers. RIP OG.

Re: Indiana Pacers Legend George McGinnis Passed Away

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 6:18 am
by Ray Donovan
McGinnis was a warrior in his ABA days, great player. From what other poster said had great 4 year run in NBA too. Remember picture of him smoking a cigarette on the bench before practice haha

Re: Indiana Pacers Legend George McGinnis Passed Away

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 12:54 pm
by GSWFan1994
Roscoe Sheed wrote:sad to see the ABA legends pass away. I wish there was more footage of the ABA- the best basketball book I've ever read was "Loose Balls" by Terry Pluto- essentially an oral history of the ABA


Amazing book. I think I've read it at least 3 times over the years... plus the countless "consultations" I did too.

"I ain't getting in no damn time machine" - Marvin Barnes :lol:

Re: Indiana Pacers Legend George McGinnis Passed Away

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:00 pm
by GSWFan1994
wojoaderge wrote:My 2nd all-time favorite player. He is the "ge" in wojoaderge


Now you have to explain to us gentlemen the rest of the history...

Re: Indiana Pacers Legend George McGinnis Passed Away

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:01 pm
by Mavrelous
Rest in peace...

Re: Indiana Pacers Legend George McGinnis Passed Away

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 1:04 pm
by GSWFan1994
slicedbread2 wrote:It was confirmed that he suffered back problems later on in life that resulted in multiple surgeries. I wouldn't be surprised if his back had given out and doctors told him to retire in order to preserve a decent quality of life. He was a part of 2 deals involving Denver:

1) Denver sent eventual hall of famer 76ers legend Bobby Jones to Philadelphia for McGinnis. Sadly McGinnis was a flop while Jones became a legend who is considered to be one of the nicest guys ever to play the game due to his honesty and stoic nature. The Nuggets had buyers remorse and did the following.

2) Traded him to Indiana for Alex English. Pacers ownership was desperate for nostalgia from the ABA days to help boost sagging attendance during the early post merger years. Sadly for the Pacers, McGinnis was well past his prime while English would be one of the defining players of the 80's in the Nuggets' rainbow inspired uniforms(looked like Tetris when it really was a bunch of blocks that formed a mosaic of Denver's skyline).

Nonetheless McGinnis is forever a legend in the land of Hoosiers. RIP OG.


Nice write-up, thanks for taking the time. I don't remember reading about his possible injuries anywhere.

Yes, I thought it was about injuries. Very unusual for a productive player to retire at 31 yo. And his production fell off a cliff quickly years before he was 31 too.

The Bobby Jones trade was an awesome one for Philadelphia. Then they got Moses Malone basically for free later on too. Do you know why Moses was traded in that context?

And the Alex English trade was another great one as well. English may be perhaps the most underrated player of the 80s.

Re: Indiana Pacers Legend George McGinnis Passed Away

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 4:24 pm
by slicedbread2
GSWFan1994 wrote:
slicedbread2 wrote:It was confirmed that he suffered back problems later on in life that resulted in multiple surgeries. I wouldn't be surprised if his back had given out and doctors told him to retire in order to preserve a decent quality of life. He was a part of 2 deals involving Denver:

1) Denver sent eventual hall of famer 76ers legend Bobby Jones to Philadelphia for McGinnis. Sadly McGinnis was a flop while Jones became a legend who is considered to be one of the nicest guys ever to play the game due to his honesty and stoic nature. The Nuggets had buyers remorse and did the following.

2) Traded him to Indiana for Alex English. Pacers ownership was desperate for nostalgia from the ABA days to help boost sagging attendance during the early post merger years. Sadly for the Pacers, McGinnis was well past his prime while English would be one of the defining players of the 80's in the Nuggets' rainbow inspired uniforms(looked like Tetris when it really was a bunch of blocks that formed a mosaic of Denver's skyline).

Nonetheless McGinnis is forever a legend in the land of Hoosiers. RIP OG.


Nice write-up, thanks for taking the time. I don't remember reading about his possible injuries anywhere.

Yes, I thought it was about injuries. Very unusual for a productive player to retire at 31 yo. And his production fell off a cliff quickly years before he was 31 too.

The Bobby Jones trade was an awesome one for Philadelphia. Then they got Moses Malone basically for free later on too. Do you know why Moses was traded in that context?

And the Alex English trade was another great one as well. English may be perhaps the most underrated player of the 80s.


Oh yea English was a beast as well. Truly loved him in those Nuggets rainbow Tetris uniforms!

As for why Moses got traded it was because he was a restricted FA and the ownership group that brought him in at the time(oddly enough it was the Maloof family) sold the Rockets to new owners Charles Thomas and Sidney Shlenker(who'd later own the Nuggets during the mid-late 80's who bought them for $20M and sold them for $65M when he was done). Thomas wanted to keep him around, but decided he couldn't pay Malone due to Houston's economy being in massive decline during the 80's because of the oil bust that crippled H-town in 1981. This ultimately resulted in the 76ers being able to nab Malone for free essentially and the Rockets ultimately tanked for Sampson and Olajuwon resulting in the league instituting a lottery for the draft.

Re: Indiana Pacers Legend George McGinnis Passed Away

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:16 pm
by wojoaderge
GSWFan1994 wrote:
wojoaderge wrote:My 2nd all-time favorite player. He is the "ge" in wojoaderge


Now you have to explain to us gentlemen the rest of the history...


wo - World B. Free sg
jo - Joe Barry Carroll (all-time favorite player) c
ad - Adrian Dantley sf
er - Eric Money pg

Re: Indiana Pacers Legend George McGinnis Passed Away

Posted: Fri Dec 15, 2023 5:48 pm
by Message Boar
RIP to one of the legends of the ABA

I remember sometimes playing with him in some old nba2k, back when I would put all the historical and current player in one big fantasy draft.