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I saw this discussion in another thread. Somebody said they'd get demolished, and Mirotic12 strongly disagreed. Real Madrid is currently a whopping 19-2. Their roster and stats are below.

How many wins does this team get during an NBA season?

https://www.basketball-reference.com/international/teams/real-madrid/2024.html

Less than 10. Their best players are all guys who sucked in the NBA.

Well if Mario is their best player and he was a complete washout in the league - they wouldn't win a single game. Pistons would beat them by 20+ on a random night. There is a huge difference between NBA talent and any other league in the world

As someone who knows little of Euro league.

Luka Modrid and Toni Kroos are past their prime. They'd get throttled by the Pistons.

Would NBA rules benefit Madrid is the question?

Not many. They have a roster and a system geared towards euro ball, the spacing and the pace in the NBA would kill them. If we're switching the NBA to FIBA rules then it'd be another story.

Dirk wrote:Luka Modrid and Toni Kroos are past their prime. They'd get throttled by the Pistons.

Bellingham is 6'2" and probably better at basketball than half the pistons roster even though he has never touched a basketball in his life.

_jin wrote:

Dirk wrote:Luka Modrid and Toni Kroos are past their prime. They'd get throttled by the Pistons.

Bellingham is 6'2" and probably better at basketball than half the pistons roster even though he has never touched a basketball in his life.

Killian Hayes dominated EuroCup @ 17 years of age...

azcatz11 wrote:Well if Mario is their best player and he was a complete washout in the league - they wouldn't win a single game. Pistons would beat them by 20+ on a random night. There is a huge difference between NBA talent and any other league in the world

As stated in other thread, Hezonja is not their best player at all. So just stop making nonsense.

And even though I think I am Euroleague fan realist, I think they are better than Pistons. Pistons has to be the only team worse than RM, but thats it, Pistons is not an NBA caliber team.

I think they reach double digit wins, why not? NBA season is roller coaster with back to backs, a lot of load management and very little scouting. Even bad team snap a win here and there, well except the Pistons. Load managing would benefit Real Madrid I think, because most of their players are similar caliber, which is deep end of the bench NBA material guy lets say it. If they sit Tavares, Poirier is just as good, if they sit Ablade and Deck, Hezonja can fill in, if they sit Musa, Campazzo steps in etc etc. Some of their guys are too old for this *** tho, Llull, Fernandez, Rodriguez, they are deep end of the bench guys as it is in Europe already, but they are still important for rotation purposes, but in the NBA, nah, they would be be ran out of the gym very easily.

azcatz11 wrote:
Killian Hayes dominated EuroCup @ 17 years of age...

No he didn't, and Eurocup is not Euroleague.

UcanUwill wrote:

azcatz11 wrote:Well if Mario is their best player and he was a complete washout in the league - they wouldn't win a single game. Pistons would beat them by 20+ on a random night. There is a huge difference between NBA talent and any other league in the world

As stated in other thread, Hezonja is not their best player at all. So just stop making nonsense.

And even though I think I am Euroleague fan realist, I think they are better than Pistons. Pistons has to be the only team worse than RM, but thats it, Pistons is not an NBA caliber team.

I think they reach double digit wins, why not? NBA season is roller coaster with back to backs, a lot of load management and very little scouting. Even bad team snap a win here and there, well except the Pistons. Load managing would benefit Real Madrid I think, because most of their players are similar caliber, which is deep end of the bench NBA material guy lets say it. If they sit Tavares, Poirier is just as good, if they sit Ablade and Deck, Hezonja can fill in, if they sit Musa, Campazzo steps in etc etc. Some of their guys are too old for this *** tho, Llull, Fernandez, Rodriguez, they are deep end of the bench guys as it is in Europe already, but they are still important for rotation purposes, but in the NBA, nah, they would be be ran out of the gym very easily.

azcatz11 wrote:
Killian Hayes dominated EuroCup @ 17 years of age...

No he didn't, and Eurocup is not Euroleague.

Isn't Shane Larkin a god somewhere?

Most of their rotation is borderline unplayable in the NBA, so they would not fare very well. They would compete with the Spurs and Pistons, maybe.

In addition to relative NBA washouts thriving over there, I would be interested in seeing how RM would fare in the 2nd half of the NBA season, seeing how Euroleague is what, just 34 games?

OhMyGodBecky wrote:In addition to relative NBA washouts thriving over there, I would be interested in seeing how RM would fare in the 2nd half of the NBA season, seeing how Euroleague is what, just 34 games?

34 regular season games just for the Euroleague, then there's the regular season for the domestic league, which is around the same amount of games depending on leagues, and the national cups. In the end they play a few less games than in the NBA but the difference is slim.

Dirk wrote:Isn't Shane Larkin a god somewhere?

Shane Larkin reached legendary RealGM Euroleague burn status

Yes, Shane Larkin is very good Euroleague player. But, in my beloved Euroleague's defense, many former NBA players debut or just play in the Euroleague every year. And some are really good, most are decent, and some end up busts even in Euroleague. There are alwasy levels and talent doesn't translate lineararly. Just because Shane Larkin was NBA scrub but Euroleague star, doesn't mean that everyone else who suck in the NBA just like Shane, would be just as good in same Euroleague.

Many years ago, Raptors and Spurs made a trade. Spurs traded Nando DeColo for Austin Daye straight up. Both were Irrelevant NBA players, none of the teams lost nor gained any sleep for making that trade. Both were basically same thing. But few years later both left NBA and became Euroleague players, and over time, Nando DeColo became EUroleague legend, while Austin Daye became Euroleague bum and I bet even fans of teams he played for do not remember him. So there is that.

You can still say, but Shane Larkin is still a star there and they suck, sure, of course. But as I said, talent is not linear again. Shane Larkin is star, but for example Maxi Kleber or Daniel Theis were just Euroleague role players and they became fine NBA players.

That is why you need to judge any guy individually. You can't just take best guy from one completely different level and assume he will be best representative in different level. In that case, guys like Jimmer and Garza would be top draft picks out of the college, would they not? Same thing.

Depends on what rules. Under Nba rules they would be automatically a playoff team. Under fiba rules they would be the champions. Nba is overrated.

The Euroleague MVP is sitting on the bench in Sacramento.

UcanUwill wrote:

azcatz11 wrote:Well if Mario is their best player and he was a complete washout in the league - they wouldn't win a single game. Pistons would beat them by 20+ on a random night. There is a huge difference between NBA talent and any other league in the world

As stated in other thread, Hezonja is not their best player at all.

I would hope not.

But he is their leading scorer. Which, having seen Hezonja play for a season, means he's taking a ton of shots.

Assuming NBA and not FIBA rules, and both teams being healthy, I think my lowly Blazers would probably win. They could probably beat the Pistons and maybe the Wizards. But a team like Denver would probably pull Jokic at halftime.

OhMyGodBecky wrote:In addition to relative NBA washouts thriving over there, I would be interested in seeing how RM would fare in the 2nd half of the NBA season, seeing how Euroleague is what, just 34 games?

Maybe somewhere down the line.. The Play-in should include Euroleague teams (like the final 2, send 1 finalist to each conf).

azcatz11 wrote:Well if Mario is their best player and he was a complete washout in the league - they wouldn't win a single game. Pistons would beat them by 20+ on a random night. There is a huge difference between NBA talent and any other league in the world

Yeah, 'Merica for the win, you're clearly on top of the world