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11 Teams hold 75% of tradable draft picks
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:07 pm
by Jamaaliver
Is this good or bad for the league?
Can a league survive with 2/3 of the teams unable to rebuild through the draft properly?
Is it time for a revised Stepien Rule to protect Front Offices from themselves?
Re: 11 Teams hold 75% of tradable draft picks
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:12 pm
by Rainwater
Jamaaliver wrote:Is this good or bad for the league?
Can a league survive with 2/3 of the teams unable to rebuild through the draft properly?
Is it time for a revised Stepien Rule to protect Front Offices from themselves?
Not a bad thing. Typically most of the teams who have draft capital are those who are trying to rebuild and need talent. And those teams giving up their capital are trying to compete right now and don’t really need them. I think these things balance themselves over time. And there are always other ways to attain talent, there are always going to be trades and free agency.
Re: 11 Teams hold 75% of tradable draft picks
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:13 pm
by Dominator83
Nah. It's on the teams to be wiser with their assets and not overpay in trades
Re: 11 Teams hold 75% of tradable draft picks
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:16 pm
by Tetlak
Meh. Mostly bad teams that will stay bad to mediocre the entire time.
Re: 11 Teams hold 75% of tradable draft picks
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:18 pm
by baldur
Jamaaliver wrote:Is this good or bad for the league?
Can a league survive with 2/3 of the teams unable to rebuild through the draft properly?
Is it time for a revised Stepien Rule to protect Front Offices from themselves?
Survive what?
How many teams need to rebuild in a season?
How many teams succeed through via draft only?
Re: 11 Teams hold 75% of tradable draft picks
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:18 pm
by JujitsuFlip
I think there does need to be some sort of revision just not sure what. The Jazz owning 5 consecutive Cavs drafts is bonkers.
Re: 11 Teams hold 75% of tradable draft picks
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:19 pm
by Jamaaliver
I think one of the issues that most bothers me is that some teams (looking at you OKC) literally don't have the roster spots to even house all the draft picks they own.
Meaning a number of the draftees (new and past) will not get the development, reps, PT they'd normally receive if the picks were evenly distributed among the league. There'll be dozens of 19-20 year-olds the next few seasons who will fall out of the league after a rookie contract -- simply because they needed more time to develop but couldn't get it on an already overly young roster.
A ton of young guys will become NBA vagabonds as a result.
Let's call it "The Pokusevski Paradigm".
Re: 11 Teams hold 75% of tradable draft picks
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:22 pm
by Hornet Mania
It's not a great situation, but it will even out one way or another.
Utah and OKC simply can't roster all those young prospects. Some, perhaps even most, of those picks will be auctioned off for a song. The hope is a few of them are gems so it will still be a big win.
Re: 11 Teams hold 75% of tradable draft picks
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:24 pm
by jkvonny
I don't think it's bad.
You can use them for assets and trades.
Which they had earned in the first pace. The deals were done by the other teams as well. Agreements were made.
Re: 11 Teams hold 75% of tradable draft picks
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:25 pm
by jkvonny
Hornet Mania wrote:It's not a great situation, but it will even out one way or another.
Utah and OKC simply can't roster all those young prospects. Some, perhaps even most, of those picks will be auctioned off for a song. The hope is a few of them are gems so it will still be a big win.
This as well.
Re: 11 Teams hold 75% of tradable draft picks
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:25 pm
by Kiss of Death
The dying remnants of the super team era.
Teams trading every available future pick trying to build one.
Re: 11 Teams hold 75% of tradable draft picks
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:27 pm
by Jamaaliver
baldur wrote:Survive what?
How many teams need to rebuild in a season?
How many teams succeed through via draft only?
I know an LA Sports fan might not see it, but most markets/franchises have a hard time convincing above average players to come to their teams without massively overpaying to acquire them.
The draft is supposed to provide some semblance of competitive balance to distribute top talent to talent-poor franchises.
This trend of 30% of the league housing the majority of future draft picks is basically a version of economic
disparity *inequality within the NBA. Though it is largely self inflicted.
There's a few scenarios on the horizon where the league has to get involved just to preserve competitive balance.
Re: 11 Teams hold 75% of tradable draft picks
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:27 pm
by YogurtProducer
Jamaaliver wrote:I think one of the issues that most bothers me is that some teams (looking at you OKC) literally don't have the roster spots to even house all the draft picks they own.
Meaning a number of the draftees (new and past) will not get the development, reps, PT they'd normally receive if the picks were evenly distributed among the league. There'll be dozens of 19-20 year-olds the next few seasons who will fall out of the league after a rookie contract -- simply because they needed more time to develop but couldn't get it on an already overly young roster.
A ton of young guys will become NBA vagabonds as a result.
Let's call it "The Pokusevski Paradigm".
Only solution there would be to limit the # of picks you can own in a certain draft, which with protections and stuff would get ugly.
Main solution is to increase the # of two-way spots and have rookie contracts be two-way deals for at least the first 2-years of the deal (can still pay them NBA salaries but let them take up two-way spots on the roster).
Re: 11 Teams hold 75% of tradable draft picks
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:33 pm
by Jamaaliver
YogurtProducer wrote:Only solution there would be to limit the # of picks you can own in a certain draft, which with protections and stuff would get ugly.
Main solution is to increase the # of two-way spots and have rookie contracts be two-way deals for at least the first 2-years of the deal (can still pay them NBA salaries but let them take up two-way spots on the roster).
+500 Points to Ontario for thoughtful, well articulated, on-topic contributions to the thread.
Re: 11 Teams hold 75% of tradable draft picks
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:37 pm
by jkvonny
Kiss of Death wrote:The dying remnants of the super team era.
Teams trading every available future pick trying to build one.
Yup
Re: 11 Teams hold 75% of tradable draft picks
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:38 pm
by jkvonny
YogurtProducer wrote:Jamaaliver wrote:I think one of the issues that most bothers me is that some teams (looking at you OKC) literally don't have the roster spots to even house all the draft picks they own.
Meaning a number of the draftees (new and past) will not get the development, reps, PT they'd normally receive if the picks were evenly distributed among the league. There'll be dozens of 19-20 year-olds the next few seasons who will fall out of the league after a rookie contract -- simply because they needed more time to develop but couldn't get it on an already overly young roster.
A ton of young guys will become NBA vagabonds as a result.
Let's call it "The Pokusevski Paradigm".
Only solution there would be to limit the # of picks you can own in a certain draft, which with protections and stuff would get ugly.
Main solution is to increase the # of two-way spots and have rookie contracts be two-way deals for at least the first 2-years of the deal (can still pay them NBA salaries but let them take up two-way spots on the roster).
Good idea.
Re: 11 Teams hold 75% of tradable draft picks
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:39 pm
by cgf
The bad teams that lack picks can always sell their players for picks, the way the teams with extra picks did. It's not like these teams without picks just misplaced their picks, they spent them
Re: 11 Teams hold 75% of tradable draft picks
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:41 pm
by whitehops
i think it's good in a way, those teams with tradeable picks have a lot of flexibility and it gives other teams a means to acquire multiple picks without having to spread them out over 3-5 years. the siakam trade this year is a good example of that, the raps were able to get two 2024 first rounders instead of having to have those picks spaced out.
when troy weaver took over the pistons in the 2020 draft he traded a 2021 first rounder and put pretty high protections on it until the 2027 draft. so the pistons essentially can't trade future picks until 2029 unless they make the playoffs before 2027. i think it was specifically to not let the pistons make a mitchell or gobert-like trade.
Re: 11 Teams hold 75% of tradable draft picks
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:43 pm
by Dirk
Re: 11 Teams hold 75% of tradable draft picks
Posted: Tue Jan 30, 2024 8:47 pm
by NyKnicks1714
Saying a team has 13.3% of the entire first round sounds a lot more significant than saying a team has 4 picks in that first round.
