Steve Nash really should have won multiple championships.

JustBuzzin · Post #1 » by **JustBuzzin** » Tue Apr 9, 2024 3:50 pm

Just looking back at some of the teams he played for dude had Amare Stoudemire/Joe Johnson/Shawn Marion. That team should have won a championship.

He also had prime Dirk. Then he had Kobe/Pau/Dwight at the end of his career.

Why couldn't Steve Nash get over the hump with these talented teams?

Kingdibs19 · Post #2 » by **Kingdibs19** » Tue Apr 9, 2024 3:54 pm

Most overrated player of all time. Won MVPs he didn’t deserve.

Primedeion · Post #3 » by **Primedeion** » Tue Apr 9, 2024 3:54 pm

Guy couldn't even make a Finals appearance. He has has to be the most overrated player OAT.

Masigond · Post #4 » by **Masigond** » Tue Apr 9, 2024 3:55 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:Just looking back at some of the teams he played for dude had Amare Stoudemire/Joe Johnson/Shawn Marion. That team should have won a championship.

He also had prime Dirk. Then he had Kobe/Pau/Dwight at the end of his career.

Why couldn't Steve Nash get over the hump with these talented teams?

Injuries and running into even better teams. As had been the same answer to your allegation when you tried to throw shade at Nash in other threads before.

AbeVigodaLive · Post #5 » by **AbeVigodaLive** » Tue Apr 9, 2024 3:57 pm

If people are really interested in why... there's some legit NBA history behind why some of those teams didn't get over the proverbial hump.

Broadcaster · Post #6 » by **Broadcaster** » Tue Apr 9, 2024 3:59 pm

Context is everything. You have to understand where the landscape was in each of those years to really see the picture.

Post #7 » by **Slava** » Tue Apr 9, 2024 4:02 pm

Bad era. He had to overlap with the end of Shaq, prime of Duncan, Kobe, start of Lebron, Wade and then his own issues with injuries. One true bad break were the suspensions in 2005.

ChipotleWest · Post #8 » by **ChipotleWest** » Tue Apr 9, 2024 4:06 pm

Small guards who don't play defense, other than Kyrie 1 time with Lebron James don't win championships.

realball · Post #9 » by **realball** » Tue Apr 9, 2024 4:11 pm

Amare is arguable the worst defensive C of all-time. It's a miracle Nash managed to win anything at all playing with him. He had Joe Johnson for one season, before he was a star. Marion was the only player worth a damn, and they traded him for a broken down Shaq.

Post #10 » by **Mavrelous** » Tue Apr 9, 2024 4:12 pm

Really overrated, managed to have only 4 50/40/90 seasons and people consider him a good shooter, he had a season there he only hit 89.9% from FT line, to miss this record, basically Shaq level FT shooting, he replaced Marbury on the Suns and only added 32 wins to their record with the same players, 61-21, take any other Steve, like Blake for example, would've given them 71 at least, and that's only because he wouldn't want to touch the Bulls record.

JustBuzzin · Post #11 » by **JustBuzzin** » Tue Apr 9, 2024 4:16 pm

Kingdibs19 wrote:Most overrated player of all time. Won MVPs he didn’t deserve.

Well damn!

Speak your truth my man!

JustBuzzin · Post #12 » by **JustBuzzin** » Tue Apr 9, 2024 4:18 pm

Broadcaster wrote:Context is everything. You have to understand where the landscape was in each of those years to really see the picture.

I ask because I see people trashing KD for this very reason.

Nash was the KD of his era imo. Played on great teams but no rings. KD won with GSW, but nobody really gave him credit for those easy championships. KD has failed with 2 superteams so far.

Masigond · Post #13 » by **Masigond** » Tue Apr 9, 2024 4:19 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:
Kingdibs19 wrote:Most overrated player of all time. Won MVPs he didn’t deserve.

Well damn!

Speak your truth my man!

Yeah, that was to be expected. You're not interested in a discussion, certainly not arguments pro Nash. You're just interested in the confirmation of your agenda that Nash did not deserve the MVPs (for the reason that his ppg seem too low).

Been there, done that, so let's continue these senseless and annoying threads.

JustBuzzin · Post #14 » by **JustBuzzin** » Tue Apr 9, 2024 4:20 pm

Masigond wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Just looking back at some of the teams he played for dude had Amare Stoudemire/Joe Johnson/Shawn Marion. That team should have won a championship.

He also had prime Dirk. Then he had Kobe/Pau/Dwight at the end of his career.

Why couldn't Steve Nash get over the hump with these talented teams?

Injuries and running into even better teams. As had been the same answer to your allegation when you tried to throw shade at Nash in other threads before.

Please don't come here to start drama.

Also you got other people in this thread calling him overrated. Obviously I'm not the only one questioning him. Great player, but I expect a 2x MVP to win at least one championship with the talented teams he played for.

SparksAC · Post #15 » by **SparksAC** » Tue Apr 9, 2024 4:21 pm

Kingdibs19 wrote:Most overrated player of all time. Won MVPs he didn’t deserve.

I see Shaq has an account on RealGm.

Masigond · Post #16 » by **Masigond** » Tue Apr 9, 2024 4:23 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:Please don't come here to start drama.

Also you got other people in this thread calling him overrated. Obviously I'm not the only one questioning him. Great player, but I expect a 2x MVP to win at least one championship with the talented teams he played for.

You are the one to overdramatize.

And why should I care for other people seeing Nash the same way as you do? Do you think you're the only one to overestimate the impact of a single player in terms of leading a team to titles while ignoring facts (just as injuries to teammates. Or having these teammates at his side outside of their prime)? Or confusing a regular season award with the outcome of his teams in the playoffs? Or seemingly not understanding this team sports at all?

Again: Do you really want to discuss? I guess not as all answers had been given to you multiple times before. You prefer to ignore them to hold up your agenda. So what is the purpose of this thread other than confirmation of your opinion that you carved into your stone and don't want to see changed?

Post #17 » by **dockingsched** » Tue Apr 9, 2024 4:29 pm

“Then he had Kobe/Pau/Dwight at the end of his career.”

Why would anyone with a genuine interest in this topic even mention these years? His body completely broke down and forced him to retire, Dwight never regained his Orlando form after his back issues, and Kobe tore his Achilles that first year.

No one should be looking back and saying Nash should’ve won a title under those circumstances.

KokoKaizer · Post #18 » by **KokoKaizer** » Tue Apr 9, 2024 4:32 pm

dockingsched wrote:“Then he had Kobe/Pau/Dwight at the end of his career.”

Why would anyone with a genuine interest in this topic even mention these years? His body completely broke down and forced him to retire, Dwight never regained his Orlando form after his back issues, and Kobe tore his Achilles that first year.

Simple

Agenda

TinmanZBoy · Post #19 » by **TinmanZBoy** » Tue Apr 9, 2024 4:38 pm

Mavrelous wrote:Really overrated, managed to have only 4 50/40/90 seasons and people consider him a good shooter, he had a season there he only hit 89.9% from FT line, to miss this record, basically Shaq level FT shooting, he replaced Marbury on the Suns and only added 32 wins to their record with the same players, 61-21, take any other Steve, like Blake for example, would've given them 71 at least, and that's only because he wouldn't want to touch the Bulls record.

Marvelous take!!!

nikster · Post #20 » by **nikster** » Tue Apr 9, 2024 4:43 pm

JustBuzzin wrote:
Masigond wrote:
JustBuzzin wrote:Just looking back at some of the teams he played for dude had Amare Stoudemire/Joe Johnson/Shawn Marion. That team should have won a championship.

He also had prime Dirk. Then he had Kobe/Pau/Dwight at the end of his career.

Why couldn't Steve Nash get over the hump with these talented teams?

Injuries and running into even better teams. As had been the same answer to your allegation when you tried to throw shade at Nash in other threads before.

Please don't come here to start drama.

Also you got other people in this thread calling him overrated. Obviously I'm not the only one questioning him. Great player, but I expect a 2x MVP to win at least one championship with the talented teams he played for.

What else do you expect like that when you start an inflammatory topic with absolutely no discussion.

What years do you think he should have and what happened those years?