Rank Jokic, Hakeem, and Shaq by peak
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As in best player at their best over the course of a season and playoffs. And why?
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Shaq on top because even tho jokic got more skills and Hakeem was more versatile his level of dominance couldn't be denied.
screw these absolute garbage refs
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Jokic > Shaq > Hakeem
A game away from sweeping the lakers Jokic is averaging 28/16/9 on 70 TS%. He plays the most effortless basketball i've ever seen from a player. As great as Shaq was, he doesn't elevate other guys the way Jokic does.
A game away from sweeping the lakers Jokic is averaging 28/16/9 on 70 TS%. He plays the most effortless basketball i've ever seen from a player. As great as Shaq was, he doesn't elevate other guys the way Jokic does.
"They say you miss 100% of the shots you take" - Mike James
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Peak Shaq was the most dominant player I have seen in my lifetime. Yes more dominant than peak LeBron.
Literally had to hack him just to slow him down. Lord knows if this man could make ft's he probably would have been the GOAT.
Literally had to hack him just to slow him down. Lord knows if this man could make ft's he probably would have been the GOAT.
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Both ends included,
Hakeem
Shaq
Jokic
offense only to win a finals series
Shaq
Jokic
Hakeem
If you’re looking for the best floor raiser
Hakeem
Jokic
Shaq
If they played in this era
Jokic
Hakeem
Shaq
90s
Hakeem
Shaq
Jokic
Head to head
Hakeem
Shaq
Jokic
Hakeem
Shaq
Jokic
offense only to win a finals series
Shaq
Jokic
Hakeem
If you’re looking for the best floor raiser
Hakeem
Jokic
Shaq
If they played in this era
Jokic
Hakeem
Shaq
90s
Hakeem
Shaq
Jokic
Head to head
Hakeem
Shaq
Jokic
https://undisputedgoat.medium.com/jordan-in-the-clutch-30f6e7ed4c43
LBJ clutch- 19 of 104 career: https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/lebron_james_has_only_made_19_of_107_shots_in_clutch_situation_during_his_career_178_fg_125_from_3_pointers/s1_16751_38344895
LBJ clutch- 19 of 104 career: https://www.yardbarker.com/nba/articles/lebron_james_has_only_made_19_of_107_shots_in_clutch_situation_during_his_career_178_fg_125_from_3_pointers/s1_16751_38344895
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Shaq>Hakeem>Jokic
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picc wrote:As in best player at their best over the course of a season and playoffs. And why?
Jokic’s peak is not done so not fair really. Jokic has 3 years of his yet. Hakeem and Shaq are a head. Also the thing is I think Jokic’s peak will last longer with the style he plays.
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Edrees wrote:JRoy wrote:Monta Ellis have it all
I was hoping and expecting this to be one of the first replies. You did not disappoint. Jroy have it all.
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MrBigShot wrote:Jokic > Shaq > Hakeem
A game away from sweeping the lakers Jokic is averaging 28/16/9 on 70 TS%. He plays the most effortless basketball i've ever seen from a player. As great as Shaq was, he doesn't elevate other guys the way Jokic does.
Shaq didn't elevate guys? He collapsed the defense on the block all game long. He was extremely easy to play with.
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Hakeem is 1 for me. Everyone knows he was great, but I feel like people still sleep on just how good he was.
Defensively he's on another planet from Shaq/Jokic.
Defensively he's on another planet from Shaq/Jokic.
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1.Hakeem
2. Jokic
3. Shaq
2. Jokic
3. Shaq
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1. Jokic
2. Shaq
3. Hakeem
2. Shaq
3. Hakeem
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Hakeem's claim here is more defensive than anything, as despite the aesthetics of his game and his capacity for raw volume, his offensive impact doesn't come anywhere near the other two even at his peak. His defense, however, is about as far beyond the other two as is their offense. Perhaps further, so that makes this whole exercise a pretty tight race regardless of final ranking.
Shaq
Hakeem
Hakeem's claim here is more defensive than anything, as despite the aesthetics of his game and his capacity for raw volume, his offensive impact doesn't come anywhere near the other two even at his peak. His defense, however, is about as far beyond the other two as is their offense. Perhaps further, so that makes this whole exercise a pretty tight race regardless of final ranking.
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xxSnEaKyPxx wrote:Hakeem is 1 for me. Everyone knows he was great, but I feel like people still sleep on just how good he was.
Defensively he's on another planet from Shaq/Jokic.
Best defender of all time IMO.
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tsherkin wrote:Jokic
Shaq
Hakeem
Hakeem's claim here is more defensive than anything, as despite the aesthetics of his game and his capacity for raw volume, his offensive impact doesn't come anywhere near the other two even at his peak. His defense, however, is about as far beyond the other two as is their offense. Perhaps further, so that makes this whole exercise a pretty tight race regardless of final ranking.
It's significantly further IMO.
That doesn't make him the best, but it means something.
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picc wrote:tsherkin wrote:Jokic
Shaq
Hakeem
Hakeem's claim here is more defensive than anything, as despite the aesthetics of his game and his capacity for raw volume, his offensive impact doesn't come anywhere near the other two even at his peak. His defense, however, is about as far beyond the other two as is their offense. Perhaps further, so that makes this whole exercise a pretty tight race regardless of final ranking.
It's significantly further IMO.
That doesn't make him the best, but it means something.
Yeah, as I said, defense is why he's in this conversation once you get past aesthetic preference. It was his actual top-end contribution. He floated volume and all that and he was pretty good at scoring, of course, but his D was what he did which was truly elite.
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Shaq would put 40 and 20 on Jokic.
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