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giannis let the team down
Posted: Fri May 3, 2024 9:10 am
by greekman
this was the first season in the last 5 that he played more than 60 something games, and he still ended it by missing the entire first round. murray played through injuries, kawhi played through injuries. 39 yo lebron played through injuries. how could giannis miss every post season game ? calf strain on april 9 and couldn't make it back for may 2 elimination game. giannis had major injuries in 3 of the last 4 playoffs.
he better not be playing for greece in paris.
Re: giannis let the team down
Posted: Fri May 3, 2024 9:18 am
by LordCovington33
Let’s say he tries to play through his calf injury and suffers an Achilles injury and misses all of next season. What then?
Re: giannis let the team down
Posted: Fri May 3, 2024 9:24 am
by greekman
LordCovington33 wrote:Let’s say he tries to play through his calf injury and suffers an Achilles injury and misses all of next season. What then?
last year doncic could barely walk and he still played
Re: giannis let the team down
Posted: Fri May 3, 2024 9:29 am
by Statlanta
When Anthony Davis plays more games than you, you have to look yourself in the mirror as an injury prone player
Re: giannis let the team down
Posted: Fri May 3, 2024 9:30 am
by kveble
greekman wrote:LordCovington33 wrote:Let’s say he tries to play through his calf injury and suffers an Achilles injury and misses all of next season. What then?
last year doncic could barely walk and he still played
Doncic playstyle is not affected by the injuries quite as much as Giannis. Giannis is Giannis because of his athletic ability. If he cannot drive and jump, he cannot play. Doncic is still an elite ball handler and playmaker.
Re: giannis let the team down
Posted: Fri May 3, 2024 9:57 am
by LaLover11
kveble wrote:greekman wrote:LordCovington33 wrote:Let’s say he tries to play through his calf injury and suffers an Achilles injury and misses all of next season. What then?
last year doncic could barely walk and he still played
Doncic playstyle is not affected by the injuries quite as much as Giannis. Giannis is Giannis because of his athletic ability. If he cannot drive and jump, he cannot play. Doncic is still an elite ball handler and playmaker.
That just means he needs to work on his game and stop only doing playing physical/athletic.
He should learn from Jokic and work from inside thru the Post and give Lillard dribble hand off screens and copy the Murray/Jokic game plan.
That's if he wants to win with this core
Re: giannis let the team down
Posted: Fri May 3, 2024 10:09 am
by Hatrick Ewing
greekman wrote:LordCovington33 wrote:Let’s say he tries to play through his calf injury and suffers an Achilles injury and misses all of next season. What then?
last year doncic could barely walk and he still played
idk.. feel like you're just talking random ****
Re: giannis let the team down
Posted: Fri May 3, 2024 10:16 am
by pontius
I think it was the smart thing to do -- he's pushing 30 and injury-prone. It was not so smart playing an injured Lillard, who's almost 34, and one serious injury away from becoming unplayable. Next year, the Bucs should try doing a better job load managing their aging stars during the regular season.
Re: giannis let the team down
Posted: Fri May 3, 2024 10:16 am
by greekman
Hatrick Ewing wrote:greekman wrote:LordCovington33 wrote:Let’s say he tries to play through his calf injury and suffers an Achilles injury and misses all of next season. What then?
last year doncic could barely walk and he still played
idk.. feel like you're just talking random ****
nope. it might've been 2 years ago but i remember doncic coming in and out of the game limping. he still played, he didn't miss the next season. sometimes playstyle matters
Re: giannis let the team down
Posted: Fri May 3, 2024 10:18 am
by greekman
pontius wrote:I think it was the smart thing to do -- he's pushing 30 and injury-prone. It was not so smart playing an injured Lillard, who's almost 34, and one serious injury away from becoming unplayable
which makes the games today even more important.
Re: giannis let the team down
Posted: Fri May 3, 2024 10:23 am
by Dominator83
Those are long injuries. The day after he got that i remember the guy on ESPN radio (name escapes me) saying that when he sustained that sane injury in week 2, he didn't make it back on the field week 13. And football players aren't soft.
Re: giannis let the team down
Posted: Fri May 3, 2024 10:25 am
by Bolivar
Sometimes I wonder if teams should just use their B-team to get to whatever crappy record gets you in the play-in from the East (ask Atlanta), have your injury prone superstars like Giannis in Cancun for 7 months getting ready for the playoffs (and play-in if necessary).
I think Tampa Bay did that once with Nikita Kucherov in the NHL and they won the cup (they also got a larger Cap due to exploiting the IR rules)
Re: giannis let the team down
Posted: Fri May 3, 2024 10:28 am
by lambchop
Props to Giannis for not falling for the bait of delusional fans who want guys to play through injuries just to exacerbate the issue by suffering a career-altering one like Isaiah Thomas. Those same fans demanding the guy play are the ones who would absolutely ridicule Giannis for being a shell of himself post-injury.
Re: giannis let the team down
Posted: Fri May 3, 2024 10:28 am
by hauntedcomputer
This wasn't a serious contender.
Dame for Jrue was a disaster.
Then you pack Doc into the clown car and the wheels come off.
Re: giannis let the team down
Posted: Fri May 3, 2024 10:31 am
by greekman
lambchop wrote:Props to Giannis for not falling for the bait of delusional fans who want guys to play through injuries just to exacerbate the issue by suffering a career-altering one like Isaiah Thomas. Those same fans demanding the guy play are the ones who would absolutely ridicule Giannis for being a shell of himself post-injury.
if your supermax player has a 40/60 chance of playing in the postseason year after year then something's seriously wrong. his playstyle needs to change so that he's able to contribute even when he has a strain.
Re: giannis let the team down
Posted: Fri May 3, 2024 10:32 am
by Hatrick Ewing
greekman wrote:Hatrick Ewing wrote:greekman wrote:
last year doncic could barely walk and he still played
idk.. feel like you're just talking random ****
nope. it might've been 2 years ago but i remember doncic coming in and out of the game limping. he still played, he didn't miss the next season. sometimes playstyle matters
that in it of itself does not prove that Giannis couldn't have injured himself........
Re: giannis let the team down
Posted: Fri May 3, 2024 10:38 am
by One_and_Done
By being injured? Not sure how he can help that, he's in great shape but injuries are random sometimes.
Re: giannis let the team down
Posted: Fri May 3, 2024 10:50 am
by Los_29
greekman wrote:LordCovington33 wrote:Let’s say he tries to play through his calf injury and suffers an Achilles injury and misses all of next season. What then?
last year doncic could barely walk and he still played
Didn’t they tank last year? lol.
Re: giannis let the team down
Posted: Fri May 3, 2024 11:12 am
by lambchop
greekman wrote:lambchop wrote:Props to Giannis for not falling for the bait of delusional fans who want guys to play through injuries just to exacerbate the issue by suffering a career-altering one like Isaiah Thomas. Those same fans demanding the guy play are the ones who would absolutely ridicule Giannis for being a shell of himself post-injury.
if your supermax player has a 40/60 chance of playing in the postseason year after year then something's seriously wrong. his playstyle needs to change so that he's able to contribute even when he has a strain.
They won a ring with him and that's all they were really looking for. They had and still have the opportunity to trade him, if they think he's truly problematic. And, no, he won't develop some kind of finesse game
Re: giannis let the team down
Posted: Fri May 3, 2024 11:30 am
by Chuck Everett
It's time for Giannis to embrace playing out of the pick and roll. All that stampeding down the lane like a locomotive starting 40 feet from the basket is going to cause him to blow a tire eventually. He still has a lot of elite basketball in him, but I also do not believe he can continue to lean in to his playstyle and avoid injury.
Anthony Davis plays out of the pick and roll and still gives All-NBA performances.
The other thing is, regardless of age, this will be Giannis' twelfth year. It's possible that Father Time is starting to knock.