Why did the Rockets sign FVV to more years/money over Kyrie?

[chuck_wagon44]

I guess this shows how inept and incompetent bad organizations are.

Last summer, Houston could've gotten their "star" they desperately are seeking this offseason in Kyrie.

But instead, they choose FVV and sign him for more years and money than Kyrie got from Mavs. Fast forward to this season, and Kyrie is the main reason they team is in position to play in finals meanwhile Rockets are trash as usual.

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[Mavrelous]

ineptitude has nothing to do with it, they had to overpay to get FVV, and they needed a veteran leader for a young team, Irving wasn't that before this year in DAL, Udoka wanted FVV because of that.

[KodiakBear]

Because Kyrie was seen as toxic last year. Lots of teams weren't signing him that should have. To be fair it wasn't just the antisemitic documentary and what went down in Brooklyn. He wasn't really seen as a winner. The last time Kyrie was on the court in a conference finals was in Cleveland before this year

[Apz]

FVV were seen as a better defender, anf houston got their version of kyrie in green

[DaddyCool19]

What if Kyrie didn't want to go to Houston?

[chuck_wagon44]

I mean in all honesty, most NBA players prefer Houston over Dallas for whatever reason. It is what it is.

[chuck_wagon44]

Terrible team-building on Houston's part.

[cupcakesnake]

FVV has a team option in year 3, Kyrie has a player option.

That's 120m guaranteed for Kyrie, and only 82 for Fred.
Now if the team picks up that option, Fred will make more on that contract, though Kyrie has the flexibility to opt out and renegotiate. Houston can decline Fred's final year and negotiate.

Kyrie's contract is better overall.

[TravisScott55]

Media did a good job of convincing everyone that Kyrie was a toxic asset.

[dirkforpres]

Well Udoka was a Celtics coach... Maybe his view of Kyrie was a little jaded from Brad Stevens, the city, and the rest of the organization.

Plus theres no way Dallas was going to be outbid for Kyrie after having just traded for him a couple months prior... If he left in FA, it wasnt going to be because there were more years + money elsewhere.

[Iwasawitness]

I guess this shows how inept and incompetent bad organizations are.

Last summer, Houston could've gotten their "star" they desperately are seeking this offseason in Kyrie.

But instead, they choose FVV and sign him for more years and money than Kyrie got from Mavs. Fast forward to this season, and Kyrie is the main reason they team is in position to play in finals meanwhile Rockets are trash as usual.

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Trust me, you don’t want Irving and Green on the same team.

[Sane]

Oh man Rockets did the right thing. Even said no to Harden. I like Kyrie but he's not the mentor or defensive captain.

This season was all about culture and making the draft picks do the heavy lifting. FVV, Brooks and Jeff Green taught these kids a lot. We intentionally brought in elite role players that the young guys could occupy the lead roles. Whoever we would have signed would be a placeholder till the draft picks develop.

FVV is already an expiring contract now. It has been worth every penny if you know how bad the culture was for the preceding 3 years.

[MrGoat]

The Rockets already had a lot of lottery talent and were trying to change their culture so they overpaid some vets (that Dillon Brooks contract was also roasted) to help show the way. The were much more competitive this season than last season and they even have a #3 pick this draft anyway. There's a team option on the third year so essentially FVV can be an expiring deal this season. They really didn't do too bad with that

Assuming Kyrie would have been on his best behavior if you sent him to Houston is a big assumption, too. Kyrie instantly vibed with Cuban, Nico Harrison, and Kidd and the reason he signed that deal with Dallas was he wasn't in a hurry to get out of town. But it's crazy to think that Kyrie isn't even maxing a max right now.

[Bergmaniac]

Fast forward to this season, and Kyrie is the main reason they team is in position to play in finals meanwhile

Aren't you forgetting someone? Tall, good looking, his first name rhimes with parka...

[Optms]

Imagine signing Kyrie Irving to lead your rebuilding team.

That is essentially what OP is asking.

[Saint Lazarus]

Media did a good job of convincing everyone that Kyrie was a toxic asset.

He did a good job doing it himself

[nikster]

The same reason he was traded for so little to the Mavs. Was seen as a headcase you wouldn't want around a rebuilding team. Fred also gave flexibility, they needed to spend the money anyway and can drop him after next year

[durden_tyler]

Better fit timeline i think and as already mentioned they had to overpay...

[kenwood3333]

It just shows the Rockets values character and fit over talent.

[Slimjimzv]

I guess this shows how inept and incompetent bad organizations are.

Last summer, Houston could've gotten their "star" they desperately are seeking this offseason in Kyrie.

But instead, they choose FVV and sign him for more years and money than Kyrie got from Mavs. Fast forward to this season, and Kyrie is the main reason they team is in position to play in finals meanwhile Rockets are trash as usual.

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Talk about revisionist history. It's because Kyrie was a lunatic, potential anti-Semite, who was coming off the heels of doing all he could to wreck three straight organizations.

For further revisionist history, FVV absolutely made a huge positive impact on the Rockets. They were in shambles before last season, if you haven't forgotten.

Lastly, you're assuming Kyrie would have gone to the Rockets. I highly doubt that. Congratulations on making the post that brilliantly epitomizes the most frustrating things about 'take' journalism and opinion fishing.