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2024 NBA Offseason: Free Agency/Trade Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 6:37 am
by durden_tyler
RealGM experts, capologists, please chime in with regards to probable max contracts and if any (other) team can "steal" these free agents if they want to; like overpay for certain players just to lure them away from their current teams. Which teams have the capspace to do so? Or if trade demand (via sign and trade?) which teams hold zero leverage if this happens? Also, which teams currently over the cap can easily go under that with some moves before the season

All data via spotrac (so not sure if these are the actual correct numbers or are changing at the turn of the season,etc)

2024 Top Free Agents | Type | Average previous salary | New salary

LeBron James - Player Option ($51.4M) - LeBron Stays with Lakers, Player Option (2nd Year) ($104M/2 Years) DISCUSS HERE
Paul George - Unrestricted ($37.9M) - Woj: PG to Sixers Now Official ($212M/4 Years) DISCUSS HERE
Klay Thompson - Player Option ($48.8M) - Mavs Nab Klay in S&T Deal; Josh Green to CHA ($50M/3 Years) DISCUSS HERE
Tobias Harris - Unrestricted ($36M)- Tobias Harris to Pistons (Why?) ($52M/2 Years) DISCUSS HERE
James Harden - Unrestricted ($34.3M) - Re-Signs 1+1 Deal w/ Clippers ( $70M/2 Years/Player Option '25) DISCUSS HERE
Pascal Siakam - Unrestricted ($34.2M) - Back to Indiana Pacers ($189.5M/4 Years) DISCUSS HERE
DeMar Derozan - - Unrestricted ($27.3M) - DeRozan Dealt to Sacramento in S&T($74M/2 Years) DISCUSS HERE
Bruce Brown - Team Option ($23M) - Raps Pick Up Brown's PO, Evaluate Trade
D'Angelo Russell - Player Option ($18.7M) - Russell Picks Up PO
OG Anunoby - Player Option ($19.9M) - Knicks Retain Anunoby($212.5M/5 Years) DISCUSS HERE
Gary Trent - Unrestricted ($17.3M)
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope - Player Option ($15.4M) - Magic Steals KCP from Nuggets($66M/3 Years) DISCUSS HERE
Jonas Valanciunas - Unrestricted ($15.1M) - Wizards Add Tank Commander($30M/3 Years) DISCUSS HERE
Tyus Jones - Unrestricted (14.5M)
Luke Kennard - Team Option ($14M)
Malik Monk - Unrestricted ($9.7M)- Monk Intends to Stay with Kings ($78M/4 Years) DISCUSS HERE
Nic Claxton - Unrestricted ($8.6M)-Claxton Stays in Brooklyn ($100M/4 Years) DISCUSS HERE
Miles Bridges - Unrestricted ($7.9M) - Hornets Open to S&T
Caleb Martin - Player Option ($7.1m)
Chris Paul - CP3 Won't Ring Chase, Rather Get Highlights with Wemby($11M/1 Years) DISCUSS HERE

Some others, old/useless/unrealized potential and or role players but may be of value for some teams:

Gordon Hayward
Kyle Lowry
Buddy Hield - Hield to Warriors ($21M/4 Years)
Evan Fournier
Gary Harris - Back to Orlando ($14M/2 Years)
Robert Covington
Markelle Fultz
Davis Bertans
Richaun Holmes - Signs new deal with Wizards ($25.9M/2 Years)
Nicolas Batum - Returns to Los Angeles Clippers ($9.6M/2 Years)
James Wiseman - Bust Gets Another Chance with Indiana Pacers
Monte Morris
Royce O'Neale - Back to Suns ($44M/4 Years)
Kyle Anderson - S&T to Memphis
Moritz Wagner - Back to Orlando
DeAndre Jordan - Stays with Denver Nuggets ($3.6M/1 Year)
Eric Gordon - Signs with Philadelphia 76ers
Andre Drummond - Back to Philly($10M/2 Year)
Aaron Holiday - Holiday to Houston ($10M/2 Years)
De'Anthony Melton - Melton to Golden State ($12.8M/1 Years)
Giga Bitadze - Giga Re-signs with Orlando ($25M/3 Years)
Mo Bamba - Bamba Signs 1-Year Deal with LA Clippers
Taurean Prince - Signs 1-Year Deal with Bucks
PJ Dozier - Signs 1-Year Deal with Wolves
Joe Ingles - Signs 1-Year Deal with Wolves

And these are the teams that have the lowest salaries and projected under the cap space for the 2024 season;

Detroit Pistons
Oklahoma City Thunder
Philadelphia 76ers
San Antonio Spurs
Utah Jazz

2024 Offseason Trades/Deals

Coaching Changes:

Detroit: Pistons Fire Monty Williams After Just One Year
Los Angeles: Lakers Finalize 4-Year Deal with JJ Reddick ($32M/4 Years) DISCUSS HERE
Minnesota: Wolves Extend Chris Finch
Cleveland: Cavs Hire Kenny Atkinson as Coach DISCUSS HERE


Trades and Extensions
Oklahoma City - Chicago: Thunder acquires Alex Caruso for Josh Giddey DISCUSS HERE
Toronto: Scottie Barnes Extends with Raps ($270M/5 Years) DISCUSS HERE
New York: Knicks Acquire Mikal Bridges! DISCUSS HERE
Dallas-Detroit: Mavs Dump THJ for Grimes DISCUSS HERE
Atlanta-New Orleans: Pels Acquire Murray for Nance, Daniels + 2 FRPs DISCUSS HERE
Toronto: Immanuel Quickley Extends with Raps ($175M/5 Years)
Detroit: Cunningham Extends on Max Rookie Deal ($226M/5 Years) DISCUSS HERE
Boston: SuperMax for Tatum ($315M/5 Years)
Boston: Extension for White ($125.9M/4 Years)

Edit (6/19): Added rumored teams as they become available, preferably with legit links
Edit (6/21): Adding Offseason Trades

Re: 2024 Free Agents; Who Steals Who

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 8:41 am
by JJ_PR
Royce O'Neal re-signed with the Phoenix Suns about 2 weeks ago.

Re: 2024 Free Agents; Who Steals Who

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 9:05 am
by grindtime22
JJ_PR wrote:Royce O'Neal re-signed with the Phoenix Suns about 2 weeks ago.


There is an expectation that it is coming, but nothing is done yet. They could just be waiting to announce it though.

Re: 2024 Free Agents; Who Steals Who

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 5:20 pm
by Charlesareed
durden_tyler wrote:RealGM experts, capologists, please chime in with regards to probable max contracts and if any (other) team can "steal" these free agents if they want to; like overpay for certain players just to lure them away from their current teams. Which teams have the capspace to do so? Or if trade demand (via sign and trade?) which teams hold zero leverage if this happens? Also, which teams currently over the cap can easily go under that with some moves before the season

All data via spotrac (so not sure if these are the actual correct numbers or are changing at the turn of the season,etc)

2024 Top Free Agents (Type) with average previous salary or new salary if option is picked up:

LeBron James - Player Option ($51.4M)
Paul George - Player Option ($48.8M)
Klay Thompson - Unrestricted ($37.9M)
Tobias Harris - Unrestricted ($36M)
James Harden - Unrestricted ($34.3M)
Pascal Siakam - Unrestricted ($34.2M)
DeMar Derozan - Unrestricted ($27.3M)
Bruce Brown - Team Option ($23M)
D'Angelo Russell - Player Option ($18.7M)
OG Anunoby - Player Option ($19.9M)
Gary Trent - Unrestricted ($17.3M)
Kentavious Caldwell-Pope - Player Option ($15.4M)
Jonas Valanciunas - Unrestricted ($15.1M)
Tyus Jones - Unrestricted (14.5M)
Luke Kennard - Team Option ($14M)
Malik Monk - Unrestricted ($9.7M)
Nic Claxton - Unrestricted ($8.6M)
Miles Bridges - Unrestricted ($7.9M)
Caleb Martin - Player Option ($7.1m)

Some others, old/useless/unrealized potential and or role players but may be of value for some teams:

Gordon Hayward
Kyle Lowry
Buddy Hield
Evan Fournier
Gary Harris
Robert Covington
Markelle Fultz
Deavis Bertans
Richaun Holmes
Nicolas Batum
James Wiseman
Monte Morris
Royce O'Neale
Kyle Anderson
Moritz Wagner

And these are the teams that have the lowest salaries and projected under the cap space for the 2024 season;

Detroit Pistons
Oklahoma City Thunder
Philadelphia 76ers
San Antonio Spurs
Utah Jazz



Who ever signs tobis Harris to a none team friendly contract will regret it he’s always been an empty stats guy he’s best as a 4th option on a championship team at best maybe even 5th option

Re: 2024 Free Agents; Who Steals Who

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 5:34 pm
by FarBeyondDriven
Sixers have got to land either George, Siakam or OG or they're in real trouble. They worked real hard to clear out all that cap space to form a Big Three with Embiid and Maxey and if they strike out I think Embiid will want out after next season.

Re: 2024 NBA Offseason: Free Agency/Trade Discussion Thread

Posted: Tue Jun 18, 2024 10:55 pm
by UcanUwill
MFers, sign my man Jonas as soon as possible, so he could feel good and join our NT as soon as possible, Thank you.

Very interested where Malik Monk goes, I feel he probably transfer to other team.
Very interested to see where Klay goes, tho I have no doubt he ends up being a bad contract, still interesting where he ends up.
Miles Bridges... Interesting.

As a token Euroleague guy, I will mention few EL free agents who I wouldn't be shocked are in the NBA next season. All AMerican which makes NBA move more believable. And I know vet Euroleague signings never end up being anything in the NBA, but whatever...

Josh Nebo - 6'10, lob finishing freak athlete center.
PJ Dozier - 6'5 PG from Partizan. Basically, he was replacement and also an upgrade to Dante Exum, who had his moments in Dallas.
Wade Baldwin and Lorenzo Brown. Two talented lead guards, both still under contract in Tel Aviv, but due to war, both could leave the team.
Kendrick Nunn - NBA out clause.

Re: 2024 Free Agents; Who Steals Who

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 1:03 am
by Richard4444
FarBeyondDriven wrote:Sixers have got to land either George, Siakam or OG or they're in real trouble. They worked real hard to clear out all that cap space to form a Big Three with Embiid and Maxey and if they strike out I think Embiid will want out after next season.


They could use their picks to trade for Ingram, Butler, Lauri, or MIkal. But it's tough.

Re: 2024 NBA Offseason: Free Agency/Trade Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 1:36 am
by durden_tyler
What's the earlier rumors in the year? Magic to chase Monk, or was just that fan speak hoping to will it this offseason. i think he's a better inexpensive target (over a washed up and costly Klay Thompson) for Orlando.

Re: 2024 Free Agents; Who Steals Who

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 3:17 am
by Tor_Raps
Richard4444 wrote:
FarBeyondDriven wrote:Sixers have got to land either George, Siakam or OG or they're in real trouble. They worked real hard to clear out all that cap space to form a Big Three with Embiid and Maxey and if they strike out I think Embiid will want out after next season.


They could use their picks to trade for Ingram, Butler, Lauri, or MIkal. But it's tough.


They don't have quality players to give back in any real trade though. Those picks arent going to be good enough justify that. Sixers are all in on free agency or else they will be making marginal improvements through trade.

Re: 2024 NBA Offseason: Free Agency/Trade Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 7:12 am
by durden_tyler
Edited original post (6/19): Added rumored teams/deals offereed as they become available, preferably with legit links

Re: 2024 Free Agents; Who Steals Who

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 1:44 pm
by WentzerWuver
FarBeyondDriven wrote:Sixers have got to land either George, Siakam or OG or they're in real trouble. They worked real hard to clear out all that cap space to form a Big Three with Embiid and Maxey and if they strike out I think Embiid will want out after next season.
PG13 will resigned with the exclusive no trade clause that only Beal has. Siakam will resign as well and we have no interest in signing OG for what he is asking. We are going to trade for Buckets, so the sooner you realized this, the better off you be.

Didn't you get the memo?

https://youtube.com/shorts/N4ipwp9tRUc?si=aL3znAWVqqDn1bE_

Re: 2024 NBA Offseason: Free Agency/Trade Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 2:26 pm
by durden_tyler
Siakam plans to re-sign with the Pacers, per Yahoo Sports (no surprise here)


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Re: 2024 NBA Offseason: Free Agency/Trade Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 2:29 pm
by HMFFL
durden_tyler wrote:Siakam plans to re-sign with the Pacers, per Yahoo Sports (no surprise here)


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Nice job by both parties getting a deal done early.

Re: 2024 NBA Offseason: Free Agency/Trade Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 4:31 pm
by shi-woo
This offseason is essentially about whether LeBron is still chasing ghosts and if Paul George actually care about winning. I think both stay in LA, as both are over those two things.

The 3 most interesting names on that list after that to me are KCP, Kyle Anderson, and Fultz.

Fultz can be a sneaky good signing for a team, and be an awesome 6th man for a solid group.

KCP and Anderson are high level vets that could take a team and put them over the top as the stead veteran that plays solid defene as the 5th starter/first guy off the bench.

KCP will have a lot of suiters, and think he goes back to DEN, though it's not a sure bet. Could see the 76ers making a play for him, and that would be a solid move for both parties.

Anderson would look incredible in Denver, but idk if they can get that salary.

I think this class is super weak, and we see a lot of trades around the margins and some big names being moved instead.

The offseason will really come down to what Philly can do.

I'm also going to be following Mile Bridges. There is potential there for him to sign a super undervalued contract ll things considered, and if it's to a team that is actually good, that could be one of the moves that separates a good team from a great team. He's a scumbag, but a scumbag that can get you 20-30 and 7-10 boards on any given night. He's only 25, so a team might take a flyer on him, and I expect a shorter contract.

Re: 2024 NBA Offseason: Free Agency/Trade Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 4:51 pm
by bisme37
Here's a free agent ranking from Hoopshype: https://hoopshype.com/lists/2024-nba-free-agent-rankings-top-players-available-this-summer/

1 Maxey
2 George
3 Bron
4 OG
5 Harden
6 Derozan
etc etc

Re: 2024 Free Agents; Who Steals Who

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 7:33 pm
by jbk1234
Tor_Raps wrote:
Richard4444 wrote:
FarBeyondDriven wrote:Sixers have got to land either George, Siakam or OG or they're in real trouble. They worked real hard to clear out all that cap space to form a Big Three with Embiid and Maxey and if they strike out I think Embiid will want out after next season.


They could use their picks to trade for Ingram, Butler, Lauri, or MIkal. But it's tough.


They don't have quality players to give back in any real trade though. Those picks arent going to be good enough justify that. Sixers are all in on free agency or else they will be making marginal improvements through trade.


Eh, Ingram is doing a pretty good job of harming his trade market.

Re: 2024 NBA Offseason: Free Agency/Trade Discussion Thread

Posted: Wed Jun 19, 2024 10:23 pm
by 165bows
Not that high in the list but where is JVal going to land?

Re: 2024 NBA Offseason: Free Agency/Trade Discussion Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2024 2:36 am
by JustBuzzin
Meanwhile Drake still getting bodied by Kendrick Lamar with LeBron in the crowd.

Safe to say LeBron was never Drake's real friend and also confirms LeBron is staying in LA.

Kendrick diss track would kill Lebron's career. :o

Re: 2024 NBA Offseason: Free Agency/Trade Discussion Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2024 2:58 pm
by Kiss of Death
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Re: 2024 NBA Offseason: Free Agency/Trade Discussion Thread

Posted: Thu Jun 20, 2024 3:53 pm
by _jin
Mario Hezonja has reupped with Real Madrid but has a NBA clause until 07/19 and according to Shams he has multiple suitors. A lot of teams could use a player of his profile, he would fit very well in Orlando in my opinion and he's already familiar with the franchise.

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