How is NBA Draft changed for the Expansion Teams

[AmusingFiddle]

I tried to research online and couldn't get a clear answer on how the expansion teams draft in their first NBA draft.. I don't believe they will get to draft 1 or 2. Also, I am assuming the First Round will expand to 32 picks instead of 30.

[Clav]

The logical way to do this is to perform the expansion draft after the NBA draft.

Expansion teams are able to draft players off of other team's rosters to complete their roster. The key here is that other NBA teams will be able to protect some # of players on its roster, 8-10 players, something like that - and all rookies are protected automatically.

After the first complete season, then you have the ability for the new Expansion teams to slot into the normal Lottery situation, and those teams will have its draft picks for the subsequent draft, per usual. 32 FRPs 32 Seconds for 64 selections.

[SkyBill40]

I found this:

https://www.spotrac.com/news/_/id/2086/nba-expansion-series-expansion-draft-rules

Not super descriptive but it seems that the teams who are entered into the process get a coin flip to decide as to a higher level pick in the NBA draft or the first pick in an expansion draft. There's a few examples from prior expansions, but it would be up to the league to somehow sort out the fine particulars given the lottery and what not.

[cdubbz]

I actually just watched a youtube video about how the NBA made it extremely difficult for the Grizzlies & Raptors to succeed. Not sure if it's all fact checked though.
- 1995 draft: Not allowed to pick top 5.
- Not allowed to have #1 pick '96-98
- Only allowed to spend 2/3 of league salary cap allowed.

[Gert42]

I would think if two teams came in at the same time, the league should make the lottery Top 3 that year and give each team the #4 and #5. I actually don't have a problem with the teams being eligible to get the #1 pick within years two through four, especially with the flatter odds.

[JujitsuFlip]

The logical way to do this is to perform the expansion draft after the NBA draft.

Expansion teams are able to draft players off of other team's rosters to complete their roster. The key here is that other NBA teams will be able to protect some # of players on its roster, 8-10 players, something like that - and all rookies are protected automatically.

After the first complete season, then you have the ability for the new Expansion teams to slot into the normal Lottery situation, and those teams will have its draft picks for the subsequent draft, per usual. 32 FRPs 32 Seconds for 64 selections.

Nah, you for sure wanna do the expansion draft prior to the regular draft bc then teams can trade their picks to keep more of their guys.

Only being able to protect 8 guys is tough for some of these really deep teams and/or young teams.

[meekrab]

Only being able to protect 8 guys is tough for some of these really deep teams and/or young teams.

Protecting 8 guys means the expansion teams are composed of 14 9th best players and a lottery pick. That's a recipe for a completely garbage team.

[bkkrh]

There isn't a defined rule.As someone already mentioned, there were heavy restrictions on the Raptors and Grizzlies during their first seasons. This was related to the fast success of the previous expansion teams, especially the Orlando Magic, who got back to back 1st picks in their 3rd and 4th season and were a title contender by season 5. So the Raptors and Grizzlies initially got the 6th and 7th pick during their first draft.

For the Charlotte Bobcats things were changed again. The received the 4th pick and had no restrictions for future drafts. So most likely their will be again an agreement between the NBA board of Governours during the next expansion. It can be expected that it will never happen that an expansion team will get a top 3 pick during their first season, otherwise things are pretty open. Most likely things will be similar to how it was handled with the Bobcats, since there definitely won't be the argument that they became too successful.

[JujitsuFlip]

Only being able to protect 8 guys is tough for some of these really deep teams and/or young teams.

Protecting 8 guys means the expansion teams are composed of 14 9th best players and a lottery pick. That's a recipe for a completely garbage team.

Not necessarily. In the past when teams protected 8 guys, it is not always their top 8 most talented guys.

Sometimes they're protecting young guys with potetinal or a pretty talented guy has a garbage contract so they hope the new team takes it off their books etc

[BigGargamel]

The Raptors/Grizzlies drafted 5 and 6 during their first year. Vancouver having an expansion roster, and having to rely on Bryant Reeves as the "face of their franchise" really doomed them. That's not good enough.

[wegotthabeet]

The logical way to do this is to perform the expansion draft after the NBA draft.

Expansion teams are able to draft players off of other team's rosters to complete their roster. The key here is that other NBA teams will be able to protect some # of players on its roster, 8-10 players, something like that - and all rookies are protected automatically.

After the first complete season, then you have the ability for the new Expansion teams to slot into the normal Lottery situation, and those teams will have its draft picks for the subsequent draft, per usual. 32 FRPs 32 Seconds for 64 selections.

Nah, you for sure wanna do the expansion draft prior to the regular draft bc then teams can trade their picks to keep more of their guys.

Only being able to protect 8 guys is tough for some of these really deep teams and/or young teams.

It’s always done after the entry draft and for good reason.

Charlotte moved from 4 to 2 in 2004 because they were willing to draft Predrag Drobnjak in the expansion draft. The deal also included the 33rd pick, but it was all about taking on that unwanted contract. I don’t think teams can pull off a trade like that without knowing who’s available at what pick.

[Johnny Bball]

Depends if they are from Canada or not.

[ChiTownHero1992]

I'd almost say leave the lottery but change the odds ever so slightly, maybe slate the Expansion teams just outside of the Top 3 but with odds to move up:

Teams 1-3: 12%
2 Expansion Teams: 9%
Teams 4-6: 7%
Teams "7-10: 4%
Teams 11-13: 2.5%
Teams 14-16: 0.5%

That way the Top 3 worst records still have their chance at #1, and teams 4-8 still have a decent chance with the 2 new teams. Leaving the teams that were the 9th-14th "worst" just dropping down slightly.

[cdubbz]

I would think if two teams came in at the same time, the league should make the lottery Top 3 that year and give each team the #4 and #5. I actually don't have a problem with the teams being eligible to get the #1 pick within years two through four, especially with the flatter odds.

according the the youtube I watched owners were upset that the Orlando Magic was able to land back to back #1 picks and got Shaq & Webber (Penny). so they made that rule of no #1 picks for the grizz or raps the first few years. brutal.

[Myth]

All I know is I hope there isn’t an expansion until the Blazers are a playoff team again lol.

[SomeBunghole]

Perhaps someone can correct me on this, but is it not something that the last three expansion teams negotiated? In the sense that there aren't specific rules built into the league?

As far as I'm concerned, I'd give the expansion team the #1 pick outright just so they can hit the ground running.

[AmusingFiddle]

The logical way to do this is to perform the expansion draft after the NBA draft.

Expansion teams are able to draft players off of other team's rosters to complete their roster. The key here is that other NBA teams will be able to protect some # of players on its roster, 8-10 players, something like that - and all rookies are protected automatically.

After the first complete season, then you have the ability for the new Expansion teams to slot into the normal Lottery situation, and those teams will have its draft picks for the subsequent draft, per usual. 32 FRPs 32 Seconds for 64 selections.

Makes sense. Protect the top 10 maybe 15 positions in the draft. Or give the lottery teams an option to swap the expansion teams future 1st rounder for the current year FRP and compensation. OKC/UTAH can some of the assets they accumulated as well.


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[Ray Donovan]

Maybe the 1st year make Seattle & Vegas (hopefully) not get the 1st two picks but after that 1st year open it up for everyone. Protect 7 or 8 players In expansion draft & thez players drafted can be traded for other assets. U want the expansion to get up & running pretty quick