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Could a core of Kyrie, Wiggins and Anthony Bennett (WITHOUT LeBron) have been good?
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 2:24 am
by ScrantonBulls
OdomFan wrote:ScrantonBulls wrote:OdomFan wrote: Lebron jumped to the Heat to play with a previous FInals MVP D-Wade, and a great all star caliber player in Chris Bosh. Jumped back "home" to team up with a young rising star named Kyrie Irving who already made a name for himself before Bron got there, and then on top of that demanded Kevin Love be brought in.
The Cavs may not have won a championship in 2016 if Lebron never showed back up, but I think they'd have potentially still improved moving forward if you have Kyrie remain at the helm as he was before Lebron got there, Anthony Bennett remaining, Andrew Wiggins coming in and who knows what other players being signed or traded for in that alternate scenario without Bron being back there.
Had to bump this because you implied a core of Kyrie, Andrew Wiggins and ANTHONY BENNETT, without LeBron, is good, lmao. Mainly the Anthony Bennett part. Do you believe what you say, or does LeBron just make you see red?
Yes, they could be good. There is no reason they couldn't be. I think anyone with a different opinion than you makes you red. I thought I'd bump this to point that out.
I had a discussion with another postwr about this. Do you think a core of Kyrie, Wiggins and Bennett (with no LeBron) could have been good? This prayer is trying to argue that the Cavs could have possibly been better off without LeBron joining the team, and that core could be good. I'm offl the opinion that the core is trash and Kyrie would be gone pretty fast. What do you all think?
Re: Could a core of Kyrie, Wiggins and Anthony Bennett (WITHOUT LeBron) have been good?
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 2:28 am
by iLLmatic860
Bron was still a superstar in his prime
Kyrie still a star and a clutch player
thats good enough to atleast make the ecf in that weak east
Re: Could a core of Kyrie, Wiggins and Anthony Bennett (WITHOUT LeBron) have been good?
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 2:35 am
by tsherkin
iLLmatic860 wrote:Bron was still a superstar in his prime
Kyrie still a star and a clutch player
thats good enough to atleast make the ecf in that weak east
Title says WITHOUT Lebron.
Re: Could a core of Kyrie, Wiggins and Anthony Bennett (WITHOUT LeBron) have been good?
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 2:36 am
by jbsays
Kyrie, Wiggins, and Anthony Bennett without Lebron. No way.
I was going to say maybe if they won the 2015 lottery. But, looking at that draft it is weak.
Cavs best case scenario happened with Lebron returning.
Re: Could a core of Kyrie, Wiggins and Anthony Bennett (WITHOUT LeBron) have been good?
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 2:46 am
by dockingsched
Anthony Bennett was not an nba caliber player. If he’s part of your top 3 core, and the second guy was a role player and only a borderline all star once, what exactly is supposed to be the answer other than “no, it would be bad”?
Re: Could a core of Kyrie, Wiggins and Anthony Bennett (WITHOUT LeBron) have been good?
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 2:51 am
by JRoy
9th place every year
Re: Could a core of Kyrie, Wiggins and Anthony Bennett (WITHOUT LeBron) have been good?
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 2:54 am
by NZB2323
How do you define good?
The 8th seed in the East was the 38 win Nets. I think the Cavs would be better than that.
Re: Could a core of Kyrie, Wiggins and Anthony Bennett (WITHOUT LeBron) have been good?
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 2:56 am
by tsherkin
NZB2323 wrote:How do you define good?
The 8th seed in the East was the 38 win Nets. I think the Cavs would be better than that.
Dunno about that. Bennett was dreadful and Wiggins wasn't really any good until he was allowed to be a roleplayer on the Warriors. And even then, not too much to write home about. Kyrie can't anchor a whole team by himself without any kind of offensive help. Few are the guys in league history who could do much in that situation.
Re: Could a core of Kyrie, Wiggins and Anthony Bennett (WITHOUT LeBron) have been good?
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 2:58 am
by Dominator83
Anthony Bennett and "core" in the same sentence
Re: Could a core of Kyrie, Wiggins and Anthony Bennett (WITHOUT LeBron) have been good?
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 2:59 am
by JJ_PR
Anthony Bennett is the biggest bust of all time. That team is going nowhere fast.
Re: Could a core of Kyrie, Wiggins and Anthony Bennett (WITHOUT LeBron) have been good?
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 3:11 am
by iLLmatic860
tsherkin wrote:iLLmatic860 wrote:Bron was still a superstar in his prime
Kyrie still a star and a clutch player
thats good enough to atleast make the ecf in that weak east
Title says WITHOUT Lebron.
Oh nah thats a lottery team then lol
Re: Could a core of Kyrie, Wiggins and Anthony Bennett (WITHOUT LeBron) have been good?
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 3:13 am
by tsherkin
iLLmatic860 wrote:tsherkin wrote:iLLmatic860 wrote:Bron was still a superstar in his prime
Kyrie still a star and a clutch player
thats good enough to atleast make the ecf in that weak east
Title says WITHOUT Lebron.
Oh nah thats a lottery team then lol
Exactly, haha.
Re: Could a core of Kyrie, Wiggins and Anthony Bennett (WITHOUT LeBron) have been good?
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 3:15 am
by scrabbarista
Unfortunately, no.
I thought Wiggins could be James' Pippen coming into his draft, but that's not how it played out.
Not quite.
PS I was clear that I'd take Embiid #1 regardless of health.
Re: Could a core of Kyrie, Wiggins and Anthony Bennett (WITHOUT LeBron) have been good?
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 3:26 am
by wegotthabeet
Seems like an obvious no.
2011: Kyrie + Kawhi
2012: Lillard
2013: Giannis
2014: Embiid
Better question would’ve been had they picked the best player available at every pick between 2011-2014, would that team had more success than the Lebron, Kyrie & Love?
Re: Could a core of Kyrie, Wiggins and Anthony Bennett (WITHOUT LeBron) have been good?
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 3:26 am
by TheGOATRises007
No
Re: Could a core of Kyrie, Wiggins and Anthony Bennett (WITHOUT LeBron) have been good?
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 3:28 am
by Wingy
Lamest OP poster of all RealGM time?
Just maybe.
Re: Could a core of Kyrie, Wiggins and Anthony Bennett (WITHOUT LeBron) have been good?
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 3:57 am
by Rainwater
Bennet wasn't an NBA player, Wiggins is a role player at best, and Irving would be the only star. There was no way Cleveland was winning with that. That is lottery team.
Re: Could a core of Kyrie, Wiggins and Anthony Bennett (WITHOUT LeBron) have been good?
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 4:19 am
by iggymcfrack
Wiggins was garbage for most of his career and he’d be an absolutely TERRIBLE fit with Kyrie. I doubt that team makes the playoffs once before Kyrie asks out.
Re: Could a core of Kyrie, Wiggins and Anthony Bennett (WITHOUT LeBron) have been good?
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 4:27 am
by The High Cyde
Lmao no, they’d be bottom feeders year in year out.
Re: Could a core of Kyrie, Wiggins and Anthony Bennett (WITHOUT LeBron) have been good?
Posted: Fri Jul 26, 2024 4:43 am
by Liver_Pooty
They'd win the number 1 pick