Bigger achievement...MJ 6 titles or Maradona winning 2 titles with Napoli?

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Bigger achievement...MJ 6 titles or Maradona winning 2 titles with Napoli? 

Post#1 » by Tracymcgoaty » Tue Sep 3, 2024 6:40 am

MJ winning 6 titles with Bulls or Maradona winning with Napoli?

I dont know how many people here know of MAradona or the magnitude of his decision to join Napoli but....He basically joined a team who'd never won anything. He joined them during a time where Serie A were filled with star studded teams in Milan,Juve and Inter.

It's like i dont know....MJ joining the a subpar team and carrying them to two chips against great teams.

Maradona is revered in Naples. He's basically god over there with Churches dedicated to him. When he died it took less than a week to change the stadium in Napoli in his name.

I guess you could see where i basically stand. I think those two titles he won with Napoli is bigger than any titles out there.
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Post#3 » by bkkrh » Tue Sep 3, 2024 7:17 am

Maradona winning 2 titles with Napoli. The Italian League was by far the best football league in the world during that period and Neapel was a team fighting against relegation before he joined. It's the equivalent of a player signing with the current Wizards or Pistons and winning 2 titles with that team.
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Post#4 » by SlimShady83 » Tue Sep 3, 2024 7:30 am

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Post#5 » by TrentTuckerRule » Tue Sep 3, 2024 7:53 am

the 1989/90 Napoli squad wasn't too shabby, Careca, Ciro Ferrara, Gianfranco Zola, Alemão, de Napoli

looks like a pretty decent squad to me
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Post#6 » by AdagioPace » Tue Sep 3, 2024 8:33 am

TrentTuckerRule wrote:the 1989/90 Napoli squad wasn't too shabby, Careca, Ciro Ferrara, Gianfranco Zola, Alemão, de Napoli

looks like a pretty decent squad to me

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Post#7 » by durden_tyler » Tue Sep 3, 2024 9:12 am

What sport did Maradona play?
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Post#8 » by UcanUwill » Tue Sep 3, 2024 9:47 am

I don't know how strong Napoli and his competitors in Serie A were at a time, so maybe I am wrong, but it feels like winning with Napoli is definitely more impressive. WHich titles were those, Serie A, I assume we arent talking cups..? I am not into sport that much, so I am ignorant.

I am reading Wiki right now, they acquired him for 12 Million €, which was huge money at a time, but man, compare to todays transfers, wow, 12 million...

durden_tyler wrote:What sport did Maradona play?


So now you just a forum troll all of sudden?
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Post#9 » by Sgt Major » Tue Sep 3, 2024 11:23 am

Absolutely Maradona.
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Post#10 » by yannisk » Tue Sep 3, 2024 12:05 pm

As it was already mentioned, Napoli had a good squad, also in the same period Verona and Sampdoria won their first titles probably a lot more unexpected winners
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Post#11 » by Lockdown504090 » Tue Sep 3, 2024 12:07 pm

UcanUwill wrote:I don't know how strong Napoli and his competitors in Serie A were at a time, so maybe I am wrong, but it feels like winning with Napoli is definitely more impressive. WHich titles were those, Serie A, I assume we arent talking cups..? I am not into sport that much, so I am ignorant.

I am reading Wiki right now, they acquired him for 12 Million €, which was huge money at a time, but man, compare to todays transfers, wow, 12 million...

durden_tyler wrote:What sport did Maradona play?


So now you just a forum troll all of sudden?

It took me a long ass time to realize yall weren’t talking about the pop star Madonna.

Is this like if bron went back to back in 15 and 16?
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Post#12 » by UcanUwill » Tue Sep 3, 2024 12:08 pm

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That was probably the biggest underdog story of our times, but lot of things aligned, season had no dominant teams, everyone was dropping points, Lester won it only 81 points, which is incredibly low for a best team, in most seasons, it wouldn't be enought for top 2 or maybe even top 3 finish, I mean they won it, I am not saying they didn't, but stars aligned for them in 2016, it was just season where every top team sucked, but someone had to finish with most points.
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Post#13 » by UcanUwill » Tue Sep 3, 2024 12:13 pm

Lockdown504090 wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:I don't know how strong Napoli and his competitors in Serie A were at a time, so maybe I am wrong, but it feels like winning with Napoli is definitely more impressive. WHich titles were those, Serie A, I assume we arent talking cups..? I am not into sport that much, so I am ignorant.

I am reading Wiki right now, they acquired him for 12 Million €, which was huge money at a time, but man, compare to todays transfers, wow, 12 million...

durden_tyler wrote:What sport did Maradona play?


So now you just a forum troll all of sudden?

It took me a long ass time to realize yall weren’t talking about the pop star Madonna.

Is this like if bron went back to back in 15 and 16?


So you and Durden Tyler telling us you don't know, a probably top 3 most famous athlete of all time? Dudes, its passive agressive trolling, if you do not care for the comparison, do not comment, it is not hard. This forum is the only reason why I know who Ohtani is, I would never know who that is, but I learned it from here and I am happy, I know more, I don't go to Ohtani thread and troll how hes irrelevant to my eyes because he plays a weird sport to me.
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Post#14 » by Lockdown504090 » Tue Sep 3, 2024 12:43 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
Lockdown504090 wrote:
UcanUwill wrote:I don't know how strong Napoli and his competitors in Serie A were at a time, so maybe I am wrong, but it feels like winning with Napoli is definitely more impressive. WHich titles were those, Serie A, I assume we arent talking cups..? I am not into sport that much, so I am ignorant.

I am reading Wiki right now, they acquired him for 12 Million €, which was huge money at a time, but man, compare to todays transfers, wow, 12 million...



So now you just a forum troll all of sudden?

It took me a long ass time to realize yall weren’t talking about the pop star Madonna.

Is this like if bron went back to back in 15 and 16?


So you and Durden Tyler telling us you don't know, a probably top 3 most famous athlete of all time? Dudes, its passive agressive trolling, if you do not care for the comparison, do not comment, it is not hard. This forum is the only reason why I know who Ohtani is, I would never know who that is, but I learned it from here and I am happy, I know more, I don't go to Ohtani thread and troll how hes irrelevant to my eyes because he plays a weird sport to me.

0 trolling, I deadass just want to know the answer to the question I asked and if people think Ronaldo better than him because that’s the best player I seen. I just watched on YouTube a little and I can’t tell.
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Post#15 » by UcanUwill » Tue Sep 3, 2024 12:57 pm

Lockdown504090 wrote:0 trolling, I deadass just want to know the answer to the question I asked and if people think Ronaldo better than him because that’s the best player I seen. I just watched on YouTube a little and I can’t tell.


So you know who Diego Maradona is, you just do not know how good he was. I don't either, it was before my time, I started watching the sport even just casually basically just in 2004, with Greece winning Euros, and I way below casual Football fan myself, I dont know crap. I dont know if hes better than Ronaldo, its hard to compare intergenerationally, tho I imagine most people will say that Maradona is better. He is one of those rare people who transcended the sport and become more popular than sport itself, and considering Football is most popular thing in the world, it says a lot. Maradona is god figure basically.

I think in Basketball, Michael Jordan is the only player who is like that, bigger than sport itself, most people do not watch Basketball but have heard of Jordan and could maybe even recognize him. In Football, People who were like that, were basically Maradona, and maybe Messi and Ronaldo, maybe Pele? Maybe I am wrong, but I think its like that. My mom knows Maradona, and she in her entire life probably knew under 5 non domestic sports athletes. I know she knows Maradona and Mike Tyson, thats how I know these guys are freaking popular :lol:
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Post#16 » by wegotthabeet » Tue Sep 3, 2024 1:03 pm

Jordan I guess. Napoli didn’t win Champions League in those years and isn’t that the equivalent of an nba title? maybe I’m ignorant but it seems harder to win than any of the domestic leagues.
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Post#17 » by TFJava » Tue Sep 3, 2024 1:11 pm

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Post#18 » by UcanUwill » Tue Sep 3, 2024 1:14 pm

wegotthabeet wrote:Jordan I guess. Napoli didn’t win Champions League in those years and isn’t that the equivalent of an nba title? maybe I’m ignorant but it seems harder to win than any of the domestic leagues.


I think stuff like Champions league has far more roll of dice luck involved, for best team, I think domestic is easier to win, CL is far harder to win, but for more underdog team, CL title would be more likely to win, I assume, because you can luck out more, its not single elimination, its too leg play offs, but on good run, you could just roll on, where domestic league is a long marathon and would be very hard for non favorite to win. Thats why Lester winning Premier was so unlikely, if they won any cup, it wouldn't have been much of a story.
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Post#19 » by wegotthabeet » Tue Sep 3, 2024 1:37 pm

UcanUwill wrote:
wegotthabeet wrote:Jordan I guess. Napoli didn’t win Champions League in those years and isn’t that the equivalent of an nba title? maybe I’m ignorant but it seems harder to win than any of the domestic leagues.


I think stuff like Champions league has far more roll of dice luck involved, for best team, I think domestic is easier to win, CL is far harder to win, but for more underdog team, CL title would be more likely to win, I assume, because you can luck out more, its not single elimination, its too leg play offs, but on good run, you could just roll on, where domestic league is a long marathon and would be very hard for non favorite to win. Thats why Lester winning Premier was so unlikely, if they won any cup, it wouldn't have been much of a story.


By this logic wouldn’t it be more difficult for an nba team to have the best regular season record than win the championship?
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Post#20 » by GSWFan1994 » Tue Sep 3, 2024 1:39 pm

TrentTuckerRule wrote:the 1989/90 Napoli squad wasn't too shabby, Careca, Ciro Ferrara, Gianfranco Zola, Alemão, de Napoli

looks like a pretty decent squad to me


Yep, "decent" is underselling it, to be fair.

Careca was the starting striker in the brazilian national team back then. Alemão was a starter too.

As far as I remember, Napoli had 2 or 3 starters for the italian national team as well.

Napoli was not a bad team, if my memory serves me well.

Wasn't Canniggia (spl?) playing for Napoli then too?

Edit: just checked his wiki page, he played for Atalanta.

Holy crap, he retired in 2004, when he was 37, then came back to play in 2012, when he was 45 years old... played for an english club in the 9th (!!!) division, :lol:

I didn't even know there were NINE divisions in english pro soccer. :lol:

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