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I don’t think he’s completely wrong

C'mon Norman don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel.

celtxman wrote:C'mon Norman don't hold back. Tell us how you really feel.

honestly though, I don't like Paul George and as a Sixers fan, I will find it very difficult to root for him

Philly vs Clippers will be a great watch.

Unfortunately Harden is still there and he's as much of a choker while being woefully inferior as a defender.

This could be a tough look for norm if he produces similarly to last year or whatever. He's basicly saying that people were being held back from being fully productive because of PG, we'll see said the blind man.

I think PG was promised a specific role when he joined Kawhi, I don't think he was willing to reduce that. They didn't have Harden at that time who was clearly a better player. It looked like Paul was given more priority for his sake rather than the teams sake, probably where Norms coming from

He's not wrong. Last year in LA he took 11.4 fga per game and that was the fewest he'd taken since his 3rd year when he was coming off the bench in OKC. It was also his second lowest usg% of his career (also when he was in OKC coming off the bench). Career low free throw rate too and career high 3pt rate.

His TS% was just the same as it's always been, so it's reasonable to imagine that with a different shot diet, where he's getting into the paint and drawing more fouls, with a higher usage%, that he should be putting up much better numbers than he was last year. Weather that means more wins for the Clippers is a different thing, I think the West is much stronger, and the Clippers just lack some of the talent that the rest of the team has.

The RealGM Survivor Poll has them as the consensus 13th seed, and thats where I view them. Harden may put up some great numbers doing it, but I don't see it leading to success unless Kawhi plays 65+ games.

Scalabrine wrote:He's not wrong. Last year in LA he took 11.4 fga per game and that was the fewest he'd taken since his 3rd year when he was coming off the bench in OKC. It was also his second lowest usg% of his career (also when he was in OKC coming off the bench). Career low free throw rate too and career high 3pt rate.

His TS% was just the same as it's always been, so it's reasonable to imagine that with a different shot diet, where he's getting into the paint and drawing more fouls, with a higher usage%, that he should be putting up much better numbers than he was last year. Weather that means more wins for the Clippers is a different thing, I think the West is much stronger, and the Clippers just lack some of the talent that the rest of the team has.

The RealGM Survivor Poll has them as the consensus 13th seed, and thats where I view them. Harden may put up some great numbers doing it, but I don't see it leading to success unless Kawhi plays 65+ games.

13th is insane. Even if Kawhi misses 50+ games they are a 35 win team. I don’t think people quite realize how good this depth and defense can be. I have the Clippers between 42-48 wins and 6-8 seed. Bookmark this now. Remember when people called OKC at 45 wins I said 55+. The prior year most had OKC at bottom of conference and I rightly predicted .500 or better.

OkcSinceSGA wrote:

Scalabrine wrote:He's not wrong. Last year in LA he took 11.4 fga per game and that was the fewest he'd taken since his 3rd year when he was coming off the bench in OKC. It was also his second lowest usg% of his career (also when he was in OKC coming off the bench). Career low free throw rate too and career high 3pt rate.

His TS% was just the same as it's always been, so it's reasonable to imagine that with a different shot diet, where he's getting into the paint and drawing more fouls, with a higher usage%, that he should be putting up much better numbers than he was last year. Weather that means more wins for the Clippers is a different thing, I think the West is much stronger, and the Clippers just lack some of the talent that the rest of the team has.

The RealGM Survivor Poll has them as the consensus 13th seed, and thats where I view them. Harden may put up some great numbers doing it, but I don't see it leading to success unless Kawhi plays 65+ games.

13th is insane. Even if Kawhi misses 50+ games they are a 35 win team. I don’t think people quite realize how good this depth and defense can be. I have the Clippers between 42-48 wins and 6-8 seed. Bookmark this now. Remember when people called OKC at 45 wins I said 55+. The prior year most had OKC at bottom of conference and I rightly predicted .500 or better.

My mistake, they were 12th

Zubac/Tucker/Bamba
Jones Jr./Batum/Brown
Mann/Coffey
Powell/Porter/Hyland
Harden/Dunn

IF Kawhi is there, then sure, it's got the talent, but if he's missing 50 games??? They are a tier below in my opinion.

Right now Paul George is on the Sixers, would that be subtraction by addition? If Leonard is not healthy for the whole season, would that be subtraction by subtraction?

Damn is this boy math vs girl math?

Scalabrine wrote:

OkcSinceSGA wrote:

Scalabrine wrote:He's not wrong. Last year in LA he took 11.4 fga per game and that was the fewest he'd taken since his 3rd year when he was coming off the bench in OKC. It was also his second lowest usg% of his career (also when he was in OKC coming off the bench). Career low free throw rate too and career high 3pt rate.

His TS% was just the same as it's always been, so it's reasonable to imagine that with a different shot diet, where he's getting into the paint and drawing more fouls, with a higher usage%, that he should be putting up much better numbers than he was last year. Weather that means more wins for the Clippers is a different thing, I think the West is much stronger, and the Clippers just lack some of the talent that the rest of the team has.

The RealGM Survivor Poll has them as the consensus 13th seed, and thats where I view them. Harden may put up some great numbers doing it, but I don't see it leading to success unless Kawhi plays 65+ games.

13th is insane. Even if Kawhi misses 50+ games they are a 35 win team. I don’t think people quite realize how good this depth and defense can be. I have the Clippers between 42-48 wins and 6-8 seed. Bookmark this now. Remember when people called OKC at 45 wins I said 55+. The prior year most had OKC at bottom of conference and I rightly predicted .500 or better.

My mistake, they were 12th

I imagine that’s a 30-35 win total? Doubt you’re the 12th seed with 40+?

OkcSinceSGA wrote:

Scalabrine wrote:

OkcSinceSGA wrote:
13th is insane. Even if Kawhi misses 50+ games they are a 35 win team. I don’t think people quite realize how good this depth and defense can be. I have the Clippers between 42-48 wins and 6-8 seed. Bookmark this now. Remember when people called OKC at 45 wins I said 55+. The prior year most had OKC at bottom of conference and I rightly predicted .500 or better.

My mistake, they were 12th

I imagine that’s a 30-35 win total? Doubt you’re the 12th seed with 40+?

11th last year was Houston with 41, and people figure Memphis will be better.

Bottom ten defense without him. Aight tho

Sixerscan wrote:

OkcSinceSGA wrote:

Scalabrine wrote:
My mistake, they were 12th

I imagine that’s a 30-35 win total? Doubt you’re the 12th seed with 40+?

11th last year was Houston with 41, and people figure Memphis will be better.

Yea, for sure Memphis joins the mix but Pelicans drop off too. That’s good to know. So maybe that’s projecting the Clippers with 37-38 wins? I still think they can go 5-10 wins over that if Kawhi hits 60+. If Kawhi is at low games then that win total wouldn’t surprise me.

Lockdown504090 wrote:Bottom ten defense without him. Aight tho

I would be shocked if they aren’t a top 5-7 defense this year.

Dunn, Batum, DJJ, Mann, Zubac, Kawhi isn’t giving you a bottom 10 defense lol.

I like the honesty. Still a bit role player talking trash though!

OkcSinceSGA wrote:

Sixerscan wrote:

OkcSinceSGA wrote:
I imagine that’s a 30-35 win total? Doubt you’re the 12th seed with 40+?

11th last year was Houston with 41, and people figure Memphis will be better.

Yea, for sure Memphis joins the mix but Pelicans drop off too. That’s good to know. So maybe that’s projecting the Clippers with 37-38 wins? I still think they can go 5-10 wins over that if Kawhi hits 60+. If Kawhi is at low games then that win total wouldn’t surprise me.

https://www.espn.com/nba/insider/story/_/id/40940111/nba-predictions-2024-25-win-loss-records-warriors-thunder-every-west-team

This ESPN staff prediction thing over the summer had the Clippers finishing 12th going 43-39. I agree that seems like a high number for 12th place but it seems like the numbers work out at least in theory. Could see a lot of teams being really close together.

Says the guy who now has a chance to shine for his contract extension.

OkcSinceSGA wrote:

Sixerscan wrote:

OkcSinceSGA wrote:
I imagine that’s a 30-35 win total? Doubt you’re the 12th seed with 40+?

11th last year was Houston with 41, and people figure Memphis will be better.

Yea, for sure Memphis joins the mix but Pelicans drop off too. That’s good to know. So maybe that’s projecting the Clippers with 37-38 wins? I still think they can go 5-10 wins over that if Kawhi hits 60+. If Kawhi is at low games then that win total wouldn’t surprise me.

The over under on them is 41.5 and that would have them as the 12th or 13th seed in front of Spurs, Blazers. (Jazz aren't listed).