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0/8 and 0/7 3s with 0 pts 5 a in 26min today, 0pt?;
6/18 and 1/9 3s 15p and 4a last game

he’s a good player that got grossly overrated for his first 2 months of last year

dudes been just okay since the new year

More and more it looks like those few months at the start of last season were a fluke. Not to say he's bad, he's a very very good player, but he was being anointed on some levels that he hadn't earned, and the injury excuses were giving him a grace period that will soon be over. In fact I'm sure some will still be insisting he's hurt in 2028 if this continues until then.

I hope he gets back to form because he's an entertaining player when he's on, but even last year I didn't think he had the versatility to his game that lended to superstardom (step back 3 or no look pass, pretty much). He's too passive, but that at least is something I think he'll learn to grow from with age and experience.

Remember he really shined last season early in the season when you weren’t allowed to play defense

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Bingo. This dude spent his whole summer partying. Time to lock back in, Hali.

It's a slump

It happens

He doesn't seem able to get to the basket (or is shying away from contact). If that's how he's going to play moving forward, his contract is an albatross. As deep as the Pacers roster may be, they won't be able to pay everyone.

mentioned in game threads but it seems they need to go ahead and start Mathurin and try to move Nembhard for a elite 3 and D SF. I think Hali will come back around but it seems like he isn’t being aggressive as he should be as the main ball handler.

blueNorange wrote:he’s a good player that got grossly overrated for his first 2 months of last year

dudes been just okay since the new year

Lol, he was very good in the postseason

His has some injury concerns, but he's solidly at perenial all-star level, and could definitely make the jump into the top 10 if he can continue to improve

It's 2 games

He again took that pregame nap...Said wont take it again

Some people's takes on Haliburton two games in and Wemby one game in are wild.

I get that we've all been without NBA basketball games for a few months, but if he had put up the same numbers in back to back games mid season no one would bat an eye.

Mr Puddles wrote:Some people's takes on Haliburton two games in and Wemby one game in are wild.

I get that we've all been without NBA basketball games for a few months, but if he had put up the same numbers in back to back games mid season no one would bat an eye.

I'm pretty sure if Haliburton put up a 0 point game in a 30 point blowout midseason, eyes would bat.

0 point game where he looked like one of the worst players on the court. Yeah. Don't think the "aw shucks guys it happens" thing is gonna fly on this one.

picc wrote:

Mr Puddles wrote:Some people's takes on Haliburton two games in and Wemby one game in are wild.

I get that we've all been without NBA basketball games for a few months, but if he had put up the same numbers in back to back games mid season no one would bat an eye.

I'm pretty sure if Haliburton put up a 0 point game in a 30 point blowout midseason, eyes would bat.

0 point game where he looked like one of the worst players on the court. Don't think the "aw shucks guys it happens" thing is gonna fly on this one.

How many of these games do you remember?

• 0 points - March 1, 2024 vs. New Orleans Pelicans (0-7 FG, 0-6 3PT, 23 minutes) - Final score: Pelicans 129, Pacers 102
• 1 point - December 12, 2022 vs. Miami Heat (0-9 FG, 0-6 3PT, 1-1 FT, 33 minutes) - Final score: Heat 87, Pacers 82
• 4 points - March 15, 2022 vs. Memphis Grizzlies (2-10 FG, 0-3 3PT, 30 minutes) - Final score: Grizzlies 135, Pacers 102
• 5 points - February 8, 2024 vs. Golden State Warriors (2-7 FG, 1-4 3PT, 26 minutes) - Final score: Warriors 131, Pacers 109

Mr Puddles wrote:

picc wrote:

Mr Puddles wrote:Some people's takes on Haliburton two games in and Wemby one game in are wild.

I get that we've all been without NBA basketball games for a few months, but if he had put up the same numbers in back to back games mid season no one would bat an eye.

I'm pretty sure if Haliburton put up a 0 point game in a 30 point blowout midseason, eyes would bat.

0 point game where he looked like one of the worst players on the court. Don't think the "aw shucks guys it happens" thing is gonna fly on this one.

How many of these games do you remember?

• 0 points - March 1, 2024 vs. New Orleans Pelicans (0-7 FG, 0-6 3PT, 23 minutes) - Final score: Pelicans 129, Pacers 102
• 1 point - December 12, 2022 vs. Miami Heat (0-9 FG, 0-6 3PT, 1-1 FT, 33 minutes) - Final score: Heat 87, Pacers 82
• 4 points - March 15, 2022 vs. Memphis Grizzlies (2-10 FG, 0-3 3PT, 30 minutes) - Final score: Grizzlies 135, Pacers 102
• 5 points - February 8, 2024 vs. Golden State Warriors (2-7 FG, 1-4 3PT, 26 minutes) - Final score: Warriors 131, Pacers 109

I understand your sentiment, but those I assume were bad games in between a lot of good games. These are just his two games, period. But I agree that Hali has showed star player ability and this trend is not here to stay, but he needs to bounce back now.

Mr Puddles wrote:

picc wrote:

Mr Puddles wrote:Some people's takes on Haliburton two games in and Wemby one game in are wild.

I get that we've all been without NBA basketball games for a few months, but if he had put up the same numbers in back to back games mid season no one would bat an eye.

I'm pretty sure if Haliburton put up a 0 point game in a 30 point blowout midseason, eyes would bat.

0 point game where he looked like one of the worst players on the court. Don't think the "aw shucks guys it happens" thing is gonna fly on this one.

How many of these games do you remember?

• 0 points - March 1, 2024 vs. New Orleans Pelicans (0-7 FG, 0-6 3PT, 23 minutes) - Final score: Pelicans 129, Pacers 102
• 1 point - December 12, 2022 vs. Miami Heat (0-9 FG, 0-6 3PT, 1-1 FT, 33 minutes) - Final score: Heat 87, Pacers 82
• 4 points - March 15, 2022 vs. Memphis Grizzlies (2-10 FG, 0-3 3PT, 30 minutes) - Final score: Grizzlies 135, Pacers 102
• 5 points - February 8, 2024 vs. Golden State Warriors (2-7 FG, 1-4 3PT, 26 minutes) - Final score: Warriors 131, Pacers 109

I don't remember any of them. Even more unclear is why you think that's a good point.

If anything, its opposition to yours, which is that the horrendous games are meaningless, when the underlying factors behind those boxscores (extreme passivity, lack of offensive versatility) are exactly what people were criticizing him for late last regular season and in the playoffs. And coincidentally, what reared its head in the worst way tonight.

Nobody is saying he's trash. If there is a middle ground to be reached between "Haliburton is trash" and "these abomination games are meaningless", you are the only one not reaching it. Try to contextualize the comments ITT with the discourse about Haliburton over the last year, and watch how things miraculously seem less reactionary.

UcanUwill wrote:

Mr Puddles wrote:

picc wrote:
I'm pretty sure if Haliburton put up a 0 point game in a 30 point blowout midseason, eyes would bat.

0 point game where he looked like one of the worst players on the court. Don't think the "aw shucks guys it happens" thing is gonna fly on this one.

How many of these games do you remember?

• 0 points - March 1, 2024 vs. New Orleans Pelicans (0-7 FG, 0-6 3PT, 23 minutes) - Final score: Pelicans 129, Pacers 102
• 1 point - December 12, 2022 vs. Miami Heat (0-9 FG, 0-6 3PT, 1-1 FT, 33 minutes) - Final score: Heat 87, Pacers 82
• 4 points - March 15, 2022 vs. Memphis Grizzlies (2-10 FG, 0-3 3PT, 30 minutes) - Final score: Grizzlies 135, Pacers 102
• 5 points - February 8, 2024 vs. Golden State Warriors (2-7 FG, 1-4 3PT, 26 minutes) - Final score: Warriors 131, Pacers 109

I understand your sentiment, but those I assume were bad games in between a lot of good games. These are just his two games, period. But I agree that Hali has showed star player ability and this trend is not here to stay, but he needs to bounce back now.

After the 0-point game on March 1, Haliburton shot 4-16 FG, 0-6 3PT, 4-4 Ft, the next game , 12 points in total in a loss to San Antonio: Spurs 117, Pacers 105

picc wrote:

Mr Puddles wrote:

picc wrote:
I'm pretty sure if Haliburton put up a 0 point game in a 30 point blowout midseason, eyes would bat.

0 point game where he looked like one of the worst players on the court. Don't think the "aw shucks guys it happens" thing is gonna fly on this one.

How many of these games do you remember?

• 0 points - March 1, 2024 vs. New Orleans Pelicans (0-7 FG, 0-6 3PT, 23 minutes) - Final score: Pelicans 129, Pacers 102
• 1 point - December 12, 2022 vs. Miami Heat (0-9 FG, 0-6 3PT, 1-1 FT, 33 minutes) - Final score: Heat 87, Pacers 82
• 4 points - March 15, 2022 vs. Memphis Grizzlies (2-10 FG, 0-3 3PT, 30 minutes) - Final score: Grizzlies 135, Pacers 102
• 5 points - February 8, 2024 vs. Golden State Warriors (2-7 FG, 1-4 3PT, 26 minutes) - Final score: Warriors 131, Pacers 109

I don't remember any of them. Even more unclear is why you think that's a good point.

So if Haliburton puts up a zero point game in a blow out mid-season game, eyes would bat.

But when Haliburton put up a zero point game, in a blow out mid-season game, 7 months ago, you didn't bat an eye...

No you're right, that's not a good point at all. What was I thinking?

Mr Puddles wrote:So if Haliburton puts up a zero point game in a blow out game mid season, eyes would bat. But when Haliburton put up a zero point game, in a blow out game mid season, last season, you didn't bat an eye...

No you're right, that's not a good point at all. What was I thinking?

What?

There's 82 games in a season, Puddles. Played by 28 teams. Over 2,000 games in total.

Exactly how long do you think eyes are supposed to stay batted? How much RAM do you think is being committed to individual Indiana Pacer games out of a 2,000 game NBA season?

Another question: Do you know what "bat an eye" means? This is an international board and it's possible English isn't your first language, so I'm asking earnestly.

Cause you seem to have absolutely no idea that "surprise" or "worry" (the common meanings for the colloquialism "bat an eye") can be and often are temporary states, that evolve with circumstance/time. And it's causing a lot of confusion.

picc wrote:

Mr Puddles wrote:So if Haliburton puts up a zero point game in a blow out game mid season, eyes would bat. But when Haliburton put up a zero point game, in a blow out game mid season, last season, you didn't bat an eye...

No you're right, that's not a good point at all. What was I thinking?

What?

There's 82 games in a season, Puddles. Played by 28 teams. Over 2,000 games in total.

Exactly how long do you think eyes are supposed to stay batted? How much RAM do you think is being committed to individual Indiana Pacer games out of a 2,000 game NBA season?

Another question: Do you know what "bat an eye" means? This is an international board and it's possible English isn't your first language, so I'm asking earnestly.

Cause you seem to have absolutely no idea that "surprise" or "worry" (the common meanings for the colloquialism "bat an eye") can be and often are temporary states, that evolve with circumstance/time. And it's causing a lot of confusion.

Thank you for your enlightening lecture on the intricacies of colloquialisms, O Great Scholar of Idioms.