Is Scoot a bust?

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Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#1 » by mademan » Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:26 pm

Im not sure what he does well and his athleticism doesnt standout on a basketball court. I know its still early but man he doesnt look good
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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#2 » by DaGawd » Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:27 pm

he def looks like one, reminds me of jonny flynn
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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#3 » by Wolfgang630 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:29 pm

Gotta give him one more year but yeah it ain’t looking good…
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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#4 » by The-Power » Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:30 pm

It's indeed too early, so the only appropriate answer here is to be determined.
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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#5 » by HiDef » Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:33 pm

yes. his numbers are like, worst player in the NBA level bad. hard to come back from that
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Post#6 » by JustBuzzin » Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:34 pm

Yall owe the Hornets fans an apology. We were getting killed for taking Brandon Miller over Scoot.

MJ went out with a bang his best pick in the draft happen to be his last pick lol
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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#7 » by NoDopeOnSundays » Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:36 pm

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Yes.
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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#8 » by BlazersBroncos » Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:39 pm

He stinks. He cant shoot, he has very poor defensive instincts and his finishing is impressively bad.

He has 2 dunks this year and 16 in total over 77 games. He was touted as a Rose / Russ level athlete and is just nowhere close.

He might have that Joe Alexander athleticism - elite metrics when in an open gym but just totally unfunctional on the court in game.

Its not looking good - thankfully Sharpe is starting to play up to his talents and Donovan looks like a legit pick at 7.

The main issue right now for PDX is they need to dump Simons and Ayton for anything, literally anything. Scoot as a disappointment is a distant 2nd. But, ya, PDX for sure should not cross off PG next draft when evaluating talents.
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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#9 » by Ssj16 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:40 pm

I feel like it's always super risky to take a small guard. Of course there are times when they could turn into CP3 but that feels like the exception. Size does matter in the NBA.
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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#10 » by Duffman100 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:41 pm

Way too early.
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Post#11 » by baldur » Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:42 pm

yes he is. otherwise he would have shown some potential, flashes.
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Post#12 » by One_and_Done » Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:44 pm

Too early. The signs haven't been great so far though.
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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#13 » by FreeBird23 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:45 pm

He plays for the Blazers. This should be taken into account
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Post#14 » by Ckay » Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:46 pm

Better than Bronny.
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Post#15 » by jbk1234 » Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:47 pm

I feel like guards and wings who can't shoot get drafted way too high way too often.
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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#16 » by BlazersBroncos » Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:50 pm

NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Image





Yes.


Muiday is the sad outcome I am starting to expect.

Scoot just doesnt have enough skill. His shot is slow and he regularly misses REALLY bad.

Realistically if he was the 43rd pick, or even the 13th pick, instead of the 3rd pick he would have been benched by now. Sure seeing 8 or 10 assist seems nice but the advanced stats show he isnt impacting the game in a positive way and those assist come with like 4 turnovers.

His feel for the game isnt good and he is worthless if playing off ball. He needs to have the ball in his hands as his archetype is a old school floor general - but his skillset isnt nearly good enough to justify playing that role.

Its not looking great.
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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#17 » by dc » Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:53 pm

Duffman100 wrote:Way too early.


You still have to give him time by default because he's young, but the too early thing applies more to big men than guards like Scoot. At the moment, the guy just doesn't exhibit any high level traits at the NBA level. Just not a great shooter, defender, creator or finisher inside the paint. Seems pretty average as far as his combination of size/strength/athleticism.

Definitely not a Westbrook/Rose level athlete. Isn't an amazing shot maker like Kyrie. Not a CP3 type playmaker. I realize those are elite guys to be compared to but he needs to be in the ballpark in at least one of those categories to be considered a high level PG.

Good news is the Blazers got Sharpe and Clingan. They need Sharpe to prove his durability and a high pick in this draft should help, though they're looking like they're too good to tank (the terrible east isn't helping). I can easily see Clingan having a Gobert like impact.
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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#18 » by Doctor MJ » Fri Nov 22, 2024 9:55 pm

mademan wrote:Im not sure what he does well and his athleticism doesnt standout on a basketball court. I know its still early but man he doesnt look good


The athleticism thing is the thing that just leaves me shaking my head, because it seems like something that should be easy to evaluate and yet scouts were forever talking about Scoot as if he were an outlier there when he clearly never was.

Like, with a Ben Simmons, in the end the thing that did him in was the weakness (shooting) that we always knew was the weakness, but the stuff that was supposed to be good was indeed good. With Scoot it just seems like the only thing they got right was the fact he couldn't shoot.

To me Scoot feels like like one of the great scouting failures I've ever heard of. This isn't some exotic "high ceiling prospect" from a far away land like Darko. This was someone that had the NBA's full attention, and it just seems like they completely mistook a run of the mill guy for a generational talent. How does this happen?
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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#19 » by magee » Fri Nov 22, 2024 10:02 pm

Guards don't get the leash big men get when it comes to learning the game. Athletic scoring guards are at a premium in the NBA. If he wants a third contract, he needs the reps to learn the game. I think he'll need a couple stints in the G-League this season, even if only for a game or two, so he can work on his defense. There are hints slowly showing, but to justify his second contract, he's going to need to show more.
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Re: Is Scoot a bust? 

Post#20 » by BlazersBroncos » Fri Nov 22, 2024 10:02 pm

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mademan wrote:Im not sure what he does well and his athleticism doesnt standout on a basketball court. I know its still early but man he doesnt look good


The athleticism thing is the thing that just leaves me shaking my head, because it seems like something that should be easy to evaluate and yet scouts were forever talking about Scoot as if he were an outlier there when he clearly never was.

Like, with a Ben Simmons, in the end the thing that did him in was the weakness (shooting) that we always knew was the weakness, but the stuff that was supposed to be good was indeed good. With Scoot it just seems like the only thing they got right was the fact he couldn't shoot.

To me Scoot feels like like one of the great scouting failures I've ever heard of. This isn't some exotic "high ceiling prospect" from a far away land like Darko. This was someone that had the NBA's full attention, and it just seems like they completely mistook a run of the mill guy for a generational talent. How does this happen?


Honestly - I think there was an aspect of marketing. The next big thing skips college and goes to this new semi pro league, its a story and its different, that alone starts the hype train humming. Add into that the fact he started on the Ignite at like 17 and was not a full blown train wreck and you get people saying 'look at this kid at 17 playing against former NBA guys and holding his own - he has to only continue to get better and better'. No one stopped to think, maybe he is simply well developed for a 17 year old but who knows what that means long term.

Realistically Henderson has made literally no in game progress skill wise since that first season with the Ignite.

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