2024-25 NBA DPOY and All-Defense discussion

Whateva · Post #1 » by **Whateva** » Mon Dec 9, 2024 9:58 am

I didnt see any thread related to this award, which is the most imporant one after the MVP, so who is your 2024-25 DPOY ?

For me , at the moment is Amen Thompson. Best defender in one of the best defensive teams, he is also at the top in many defensive metrics, but even with just the eyes you can tell he is elite defender.

Discuss.

One_and_Done · Post #2 » by **One_and_Done** » Mon Dec 9, 2024 10:04 am

Unless there is an injury, Wemby has this in the bag. He might win it unanimously.

Chuck Everett · Post #3 » by **Chuck Everett** » Mon Dec 9, 2024 11:19 am

One_and_Done wrote:Unless there is an injury, Wemby has this in the bag. He might win it unanimously.

I'm not so sure about this. Spurs I think probably need to finish at least somewhere around .500 and he needs to play at least 65 games for him to win. It's not a foregone conclusion at this stage on either front.

As to my answer, I genuinely don't know at the moment. Wemby is in the conversation. As is Evan Mobley. Jalen Suggs has an argument. As does Dyson Daniels.

baldur · Post #4 » by **baldur** » Mon Dec 9, 2024 11:22 am

Jonathan Isaac is playing 15 mpg. He is not getting it.

Bologna Smasher · Post #5 » by **Bologna Smasher** » Mon Dec 9, 2024 11:29 am

Has to be Mobley or Jaren Jackson Jr. right now.

FreeBird23 · Post #6 » by **FreeBird23** » Mon Dec 9, 2024 11:45 am

Where is Gobert ? He is having a great season so far

Wargreymon · Post #7 » by **Wargreymon** » Mon Dec 9, 2024 11:48 am

Dyson Daniels for sure will win it. Best perimeter defender in the entire league. Most steals. Most deflections.

jasonxxx102 · Post #8 » by **jasonxxx102** » Mon Dec 9, 2024 1:03 pm

Well if we look at the best defenses in the NBA, who even stands out? Besides Wemby

Chet obviously is out.

Suggs is great but not gonna get votes over Wemby. Isaac is another DPOY caliber player but doesn't play nearly enough to win it.

Who's the best defender on the Rockets? More of a team defense than anchored by someone. Amen is an elite wing defender but not wining DPOY, this year at least.

Gobert is a fine candidate.

Mobley is gonna get some votes but how could you vote him over Wemby?

jasonxxx102 · Post #9 » by **jasonxxx102** » Mon Dec 9, 2024 1:05 pm

The Hawks have a negative adjusted DRTG, there is a 0% chance Dyson Daniels will win DPOY unless he somehow sets the single season SPG record AND the Hawks somehow make their way into the top 10

Hitman88 · Post #10 » by **Hitman88** » Mon Dec 9, 2024 1:31 pm

Where is Tari Eason?

One_and_Done · Post #11 » by **One_and_Done** » Mon Dec 9, 2024 1:36 pm

Hitman88 wrote:Where is Tari Eason?

This guy is determined to list 15mpg Isaac who has no shot.

Whateva · Post #12 » by **Whateva** » Mon Dec 9, 2024 1:38 pm

One_and_Done wrote:
Hitman88 wrote:Where is Tari Eason?

This guy is determined to list 15mpg Isaac who has no shot.

I took him out now

One_and_Done · Post #13 » by **One_and_Done** » Mon Dec 9, 2024 1:57 pm

Whateva wrote:
One_and_Done wrote:
Hitman88 wrote:Where is Tari Eason?

This guy is determined to list 15mpg Isaac who has no shot.

I took him out now

No you didn't. Also you'll reset the votes yet again when you do.

Chuck Everett · Post #14 » by **Chuck Everett** » Mon Dec 9, 2024 2:11 pm

FreeBird23 wrote:Where is Gobert ? He is having a great season so far

Narrative. We all know media won't vote him any higher than third or fourth, no matter what happens.

EmpireFalls · Post #15 » by **EmpireFalls** » Mon Dec 9, 2024 2:13 pm

Mobley/Wemby duel for the top spot (Cavs team DRTG and record is going to be a lot better than SAS)

Gobert should be higher than Daniels btw. As good as Dyson is that defense is still Swiss cheese. 141 **** points last night.

Post #16 » by **bisme37** » Mon Dec 9, 2024 5:06 pm

OP realizing why no one else made this thread haha. No matter what you do, everyone hates your poll.

Also Derrick White.

Bornstellar · Post #17 » by **Bornstellar** » Mon Dec 9, 2024 5:12 pm

Victor's award to lose imo. Only way he loses it is if he plays less than 65 games

Ron Swanson · Post #18 » by **Ron Swanson** » Mon Dec 9, 2024 5:18 pm

I won't quibble about Wemby being the front-runner, but it's always tough for me to reward DPOTY to a guy on a below-average defense, and that's what the Spurs currently are (16th). Unfortunately I think Amen Thompson and Evan Mobley both suffer here because they play next to two guys who also deserve DPOTY consideration and thus will inevitably syphon away votes (Eason, Jarret Allen).

Rudy still doing his thing (3rd in D-EPM, 107.5 on-court defensive rating) despite his rebounding and block numbers regrressing is a testament to his legacy/greatness there. Orlando and OKC have too many good defenders to really single any one person out as deserving, so I really think it's a race between Wemby, Rudy, and maybe Mobley as a wildcard if the Cavs' defense catches up to his bonkers impact signals (98th percentile D-EPM, -10.1 points per-100 allowed when he's on the court).

3ammy3uck3ts · Post #19 » by **3ammy3uck3ts** » Mon Dec 9, 2024 6:26 pm

Post #20 » by **MoneyTalks41890** » Mon Dec 9, 2024 7:47 pm

Chet was starting to build an ironclad case but since he got hurt his chances are shot. It's likely going to be Wemby, if the Wolves are not that good.

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