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His former teams have choked before, many times but my question is, can he possibly erase that stigma?
How about leading the Bucks to a championship? Will that accomplishment do it?

The Bucks are trying to redeem themselves as legit contenders and Doc is trying to redeem himself as a legitimate championship caliber coach. Lots of redemption arcs playing out in Milwaukee this year.

Yes, a chip would fix this for Doc no question.

No

Who cares, the guy has been living rent free for the last 16 years.

Hasn't proven it when it matters since the 2000's. Till then, no.

Just the conference finals would be nice. Since 2014 He’s been coaching CP3, Blake, DeAndre Jordan, Kawhi, PG13, Embiid, Simmons, James Harden, Giannis, Dame, and Middleton and he hasn’t made a conference finals.

Somewhat. I expect Milwaukee will do well enough to make people forget about the coaching debacle but not well enough to make anyone eat crow. They have 2nd round exit written all over them.

Generally yes. He had a great reputation for a long time. People want to paint the picture that his time in Orlando was underwhelming, but he got praised and won coach of the year for winning 41 games with an underdog team and never got any blame the next seasons since it was understood that he constantly missed one of his 2-star players.

Was viewed as one of the, if not the best coach in the league while he was in Boston. The way he left Boston was the first time it left a bit of a sour taste, but initially, he still had a great reputation that dwindled with every season the Clippers didn't make it out of the 2nd round.

If he wins another title with Milwaukee or another team those other years will get lost with time. Nobody remembers George Karl as the Head Coach who failed in Cleveland, Golden State, and Sacramento. Or Larry Brown for his stints with the Clippers, Knicks, and Charlotte.

Most of the NBA's famous and tenured coaches have only won one or no titles at all: Don Nelson, Lenny Wilkens, Jerry Sloan, George Karl, Larry Brown, and Rick Carlisle. Doc is currently in 8th place among head coaches with the most wins and will most likely pass Phil Jackson this season. Even if he doesn't win another title, he'll most likely be viewed as one of the all-time great coaches in a few years.

NyKnicks1714 wrote:Somewhat. I expect Milwaukee will do well enough to make people forget about the coaching debacle but not well enough to make anyone eat crow. They have 2nd round exit written all over them.

We will probably lose a key player to injury again, and then never truly answer that question as there will be another asterisk...

For once I'd just like to know that we are too old and slow, not wonder if Giannis or Middleton may have made a difference.

Jez2983 wrote:

NyKnicks1714 wrote:Somewhat. I expect Milwaukee will do well enough to make people forget about the coaching debacle but not well enough to make anyone eat crow. They have 2nd round exit written all over them.

We will probably lose a key player to injury again, and then never truly answer that question as there will be another asterisk...

For once I'd just like to know that we are too old and slow, not wonder if Giannis or Middleton may have made a difference.

I'm guessing you don't give the 2021 Nets an asterisk.

he cannot,

because of the mere existence of this thread subject matter. doc had already established what he is as a coach.

what this game(the 2024cup) has shown is what a monster giannis is.

i can easily posit that where giannis goes so goes the bucks, as his absense caused the firing of bud and HIRING OF DOC, as his absense opened up to trading away jrue

doc doesn't do anything with talent. he just goes where it goes

BS troll thread. Most people have Doc as a top 10 coach of all time (I have him 7th). The man won a title with the Celtics after decades of mediocrity, leading a group of oddly fitting pieces through Lebron at his peak. He's the fourth best coach in the NBA right now (Spo, Kerr and Kidd ahead) and can easily outwit any coach in a 7 game series. I know he's a realgm punching bag, but it's just a bunch of trolls that are still salty at what he did in his prime to the Cavs & the Lakers. You let Doc coach ANY team in the NBA and they'll get better, period.

ANTETOKOUNBROS wrote:The Bucks are trying to redeem themselves as legit contenders and Doc is trying to redeem himself as a legitimate championship caliber coach. Lots of redemption arcs playing out in Milwaukee this year.

Yes, a chip would fix this for Doc no question.

Done

He can but I feel the Bucks are on the same path of last year's Clippers. Disappointing start then a recovery then another flameout.

He is a good coach. Has been coaching since 1999-2000 season and only missed playoffs 4 times. He has been made a scapegoat for teams that could not win a title but had the pieces to do it. The Clippers and 76ers come to mind. I know those blown 3-1 series leads will bite him but those teams choked not him.

I mean realistically, which title did Doc missed? Maybe one with Boston, I can see that, but what other is Doc Rivers fault?

naabzor wrote:I mean realistically, which title did Doc missed? Maybe one with Boston, I can see that, but what other is Doc Rivers fault?

Just the Boston one imo. Phil got him in that game 7 vs Lakers.

I mean if the Bucks win the title, sure. We are all going to have to look in the mirror. But i doubt it happens

UglyBugBall wrote:BS troll thread. Most people have Doc as a top 10 coach of all time (I have him 7th). The man won a title with the Celtics after decades of mediocrity, leading a group of oddly fitting pieces through Lebron at his peak. He's the fourth best coach in the NBA right now (Spo, Kerr and Kidd ahead) and can easily outwit any coach in a 7 game series. I know he's a realgm punching bag, but it's just a bunch of trolls that are still salty at what he did in his prime to the Cavs & the Lakers. You let Doc coach ANY team in the NBA and they'll get better, period.

Lol, okay Doc's agent.