How come none of the young stars have grabbed the torch from the older guys?
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How come none of the young stars have grabbed the torch from the older guys?
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How come none of the young stars have grabbed the torch from the older guys?
Back when Kobe was a youngin he was going right at MJ and straight up trying to steal the torch from him. It seems like only young star who seems like he actually wants to be a star in today's league is Ant, and he's not really bringing it on the court this year. All of the others are too passive and deferential to the older guard. It's why the league has to keep marketing the older dudes and hasn't figured out which young guy to market. Wemby might be our only hope to do it at some point.
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SGA leads the league in PPG.
Jokic is a multi time MVP
Doncic/Brunson/Tatum all lead good teams
What else do you want? For Maxey to say Curry is a bitch?
Jokic is a multi time MVP
Doncic/Brunson/Tatum all lead good teams
What else do you want? For Maxey to say Curry is a bitch?
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Nobody wants it right now.
Ant showed some promise last year but come up short.
I think Ja is a guy nobody is talking about. I like Memphis to win the West and Ja will lead the charge.
Ant showed some promise last year but come up short.
I think Ja is a guy nobody is talking about. I like Memphis to win the West and Ja will lead the charge.
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YogurtProducer wrote:
What else do you want? For Maxey to say Curry is a bitch

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YogurtProducer wrote:SGA leads the league in PPG.
Jokic is a multi time MVP
Doncic/Brunson/Tatum all lead good teams
What else do you want? For Maxey to say Curry is a bitch
"That's fighting words right there!!!" - Draymond Green (probably)
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No clue how you can watch a guy like Giannis or Jokic play basketball and think they aren’t trying to grab it ALL. Those dudes are hungry, and they’re title winners; and at this point they’re straight up better than the old guys.
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YogurtProducer wrote:SGA leads the league in PPG.
Jokic is a multi time MVP
Doncic/Brunson/Tatum all lead good teams
What else do you want? For Maxey to say Curry is a bitch
You don't need to call anyone names to be the face of the league. IE Stephen Curry.
Issue is all those guys you mentioned have bland AF personalities / Foreigners. And yes, being American matters when it comes to marketability within the US. Like I've said before, if the only reason you're in the country is because an NBA team drafted you, casuals won't care about you. Take Jokic for example, he can't leave the country fast enough when the season ends. People notice things like that.
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Optms wrote:YogurtProducer wrote:SGA leads the league in PPG.
Jokic is a multi time MVP
Doncic/Brunson/Tatum all lead good teams
What else do you want? For Maxey to say Curry is a bitch
You don't need to call anyone names to be the face of the league. IE Stephen Curry.
Issue is all those guys you mentioned have bland AF personalities / Foreigners. And yes, being American matters when it comes to marketability within the US.
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Big J wrote:Back when Kobe was a youngin he was going right at MJ and straight up trying to steal the torch from him. It seems like only young star who seems like he actually wants to be a star in today's league is Ant, and he's not really bringing it on the court this year. All of the others are too passive and deferential to the older guard. It's why the league has to keep marketing the older dudes and hasn't figured out which young guy to market. Wemby might be our only hope to do it at some point.
The league will be forced to make Wemby the face once the old guards hangs it up. There is no one else worth taking the mantle. He's next up. And if Wemby doesn't take off, this game is cooked.

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Optms wrote:Big J wrote:Back when Kobe was a youngin he was going right at MJ and straight up trying to steal the torch from him. It seems like only young star who seems like he actually wants to be a star in today's league is Ant, and he's not really bringing it on the court this year. All of the others are too passive and deferential to the older guard. It's why the league has to keep marketing the older dudes and hasn't figured out which young guy to market. Wemby might be our only hope to do it at some point.
The league will be forced to make Wemby the face once the old guards hangs it up. There is no one else worth taking the mantle. He's next up. And if Wemby doesn't take off, this game is cooked.
But he's a Foreigner...? I'm confused
Optms wrote:Issue is all those guys you mentioned have bland AF personalities / Foreigners. And yes, being American matters when it comes to marketability within the US. Like I've said before, if the only reason you're in the country is because an NBA team drafted you, casuals won't care about you. Take Jokic for example, he can't leave the country fast enough when the season ends. People notice things like that.
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Because the older guys are still performing at a high enough level and are in situations where they're relevant. It's just as simple as that
Curry won a title as recently as 2 years ago
Durant got his owner trading everything to take advantage of his window
Lebron has a washed +/- but he has AD on his team plus I believe he's still good if he tried, he's just not trying in regular season
Why should we care about the likes of SGA who is on a pretender and Ant who is on a Play-in team when the old guard are still going strong.
Curry won a title as recently as 2 years ago
Durant got his owner trading everything to take advantage of his window
Lebron has a washed +/- but he has AD on his team plus I believe he's still good if he tried, he's just not trying in regular season
Why should we care about the likes of SGA who is on a pretender and Ant who is on a Play-in team when the old guard are still going strong.
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WolfAddict wrote:Optms wrote:Big J wrote:Back when Kobe was a youngin he was going right at MJ and straight up trying to steal the torch from him. It seems like only young star who seems like he actually wants to be a star in today's league is Ant, and he's not really bringing it on the court this year. All of the others are too passive and deferential to the older guard. It's why the league has to keep marketing the older dudes and hasn't figured out which young guy to market. Wemby might be our only hope to do it at some point.
The league will be forced to make Wemby the face once the old guards hangs it up. There is no one else worth taking the mantle. He's next up. And if Wemby doesn't take off, this game is cooked.
But he's a Foreigner...? I'm confusedOptms wrote:Issue is all those guys you mentioned have bland AF personalities / Foreigners. And yes, being American matters when it comes to marketability within the US. Like I've said before, if the only reason you're in the country is because an NBA team drafted you, casuals won't care about you. Take Jokic for example, he can't leave the country fast enough when the season ends. People notice things like that.
I feel like he’s trying to say “he’s black”.
But then again, he’s also acting like Giannis isn’t marketable

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Curry and Lebron are getting their lunch money snatched on a nightly basis.
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Giannis just turned 30 which category does he belong to?
But the best players in the league now are 29, 26, 25, 30, and 26.
But the best players in the league now are 29, 26, 25, 30, and 26.
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It takes time.
My Go Team
Magic, Jordan, Bird, Duncan, Shaq
My Counter
Stockton, Kobe, Pippen, Rodman, Dirk
Today's Team
Luka, SGA, Tatum, Giannis, Wemby
Magic, Jordan, Bird, Duncan, Shaq
My Counter
Stockton, Kobe, Pippen, Rodman, Dirk
Today's Team
Luka, SGA, Tatum, Giannis, Wemby
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Big J wrote:Back when Kobe was a youngin he was going right at MJ and straight up trying to steal the torch from him. It seems like only young star who seems like he actually wants to be a star in today's league is Ant, and he's not really bringing it on the court this year. All of the others are too passive and deferential to the older guard. It's why the league has to keep marketing the older dudes and hasn't figured out which young guy to market. Wemby might be our only hope to do it at some point.
Kobe wasn't a starter the 2 seasons he played at the same time than MJ before his first retirement and just got a lot of media hype from day one since he was deemed as super marketable as a teen star. So no idea what you are actually referring to here, besides that single All Star game he was voted in for in his 2nd season as a 6th man.
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Big J wrote:Back when Kobe was a youngin he was going right at MJ and straight up trying to steal the torch from him. It seems like only young star who seems like he actually wants to be a star in today's league is Ant, and he's not really bringing it on the court this year. All of the others are too passive and deferential to the older guard. It's why the league has to keep marketing the older dudes and hasn't figured out which young guy to market. Wemby might be our only hope to do it at some point.
who do you want them to market? shai gillious-alexander? wtf kind of a name is that? **** that it's never going to be popular. wtf?
wenbenyama? probably gonna break his legs in half really soon
ant? not good at basketball
tatum? cringe
when kobe was young the world was a very different place and the NBA was a lot cooler. it's pure cringe now
edit: i forgot to say:
Zion? fat/braindead
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JustBuzzin wrote:Nobody wants it right now.
Ant showed some promise last year but come up short.
I think Ja is a guy nobody is talking about. I like Memphis to win the West and Ja will lead the charge.
Ja isn't even the best player on his team.....
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Because the NBA is making it impossible for them to.
Have a look at the West All Star starters.
Have a look at the West All Star starters.
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This again.
If the media/ESPN/marketing would stop slobbing over the same trio of Durant/LeBron/Curry and promote some of its younger stars this wouldn't be a problem.
Jokic dropped a historic triple double, yet you go on ESPN right now and there are five different articles/videos referencing LeBron. It's their fault. They created this crap.

If the media/ESPN/marketing would stop slobbing over the same trio of Durant/LeBron/Curry and promote some of its younger stars this wouldn't be a problem.
Jokic dropped a historic triple double, yet you go on ESPN right now and there are five different articles/videos referencing LeBron. It's their fault. They created this crap.