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Haven't followed the Kings super closely this year, but this seems a bit out of left field, no?

What would they plan be? What kind of return are they looking for? Can't imagine they'd want a rebuilding package with Domas there, so what would be the different direction they are looking for?

But I thought they were happy for not drafting Doncic because they had Fox?

Seems like a strange time to do anything given the Kings are 11-3 in their last 14 games.

If Fox has told the Kings he will not consider signing an extension before his contract expires next season, that would be the only reason.

davidv2001 wrote:If Fox has told the Kings he will not consider signing an extension before his contract expires next season, that would be the only reason.

He already said no to an extension, he wants to see if gets All NBA for max money, which isn't going to happen based on his play so far

I don't put much weight into this at all. The local media cohort of DLo & KC and James Ham, etc, have completely turned on Monte and have been pushing an agenda of anti-Monte reporting, whether the accusations of Monte being incompetent and Vivek being controlling or whatever is warranted is another discussion but that's just the way I see it.

Marc Spears was the first one to float the idea that Derozan to Sac could happen and Barling shut it down that same day saying he didn't expect it to go anywhere. Four days later he started speculating Derozan could come to Sac and then paraded around like he was the first one on top of the move.

He is overrated. The Kings should jump start a rebuild and sell the core. The DeRozan signing was just dumb.

RIPskaterdude wrote:

davidv2001 wrote:If Fox has told the Kings he will not consider signing an extension before his contract expires next season, that would be the only reason.

He already said no to an extension, he wants to see if gets All NBA for max money, which isn't going to happen based on his play so far

Yeah, Fox is hoping for the Supermax extension. I don’t expect Sacramento to trade him right now unless a team just blows them away with an offer they can’t refuse.

Liam_Gallagher wrote:But I thought they were happy for not drafting Doncic because they had Fox?

Was it recently?

Calling it Fox to the Lakers for Reaves/fillers/picks


Lakers did it again!

Thaddy wrote:He is overrated. The Kings should jump start a rebuild and sell the core. The DeRozan signing was just dumb.

Unless they get an offer they can’t refuse, or Fox tells them he wants out, entering another rebuild would be so dumb for a small-market team like the Kings. Small-market teams like Sacramento will never land players like De’Aaron Fox in free agency, so now that they have one and are finally competitive after decades of living in the lottery, they should trade him.

Not every NBA market and location has realistic odds to win the NBA championship. It’s really hard and takes some good fortune to build championship contenders in markets like Sacramento.

jordanwilliams6 wrote:Seems like a strange time to do anything given the Kings are 11-3 in their last 14 games.

Fox has a net rating of -2.5....

They've rebounded after a tough start under Doug Christie and now firmly back in the playoff hunt. I highly doubt they are shopping him but from an outside perspective a Fox trade could really help balance the team out. He's arguably their most valuable asset and they have Monk and Deebo ready to soak up the extra on ball reps + whoever gets sent back. Especially Malik whose nearly doubled his assists from 4.7 to 7.6 once Doug took over and made him one of their primary playmakers.

What ever happened to the rug pull he did a couple years ago? Did he pay that back?

davidv2001 wrote:

Thaddy wrote:He is overrated. The Kings should jump start a rebuild and sell the core. The DeRozan signing was just dumb.

Unless they get an offer they can’t refuse, or Fox tells them he wants out, entering another rebuild would be so dumb for a small-market team like the Kings. Small-market teams like Sacramento will never land players like De’Aaron Fox in free agency, so now that they have one and are finally competitive after decades of living in the lottery, they should trade him.

Not every NBA market and location has realistic odds to win the NBA championship. It’s really hard and takes some good fortune to build championship contenders in markets like Sacramento.

Problem is that signing guys like Fox to a huge Superman or 3rd contract at $60m+ is how you stay bad for a long time. You can’t build a good team around 2nd tier guys making top tier money.

vxmike wrote:

davidv2001 wrote:

Thaddy wrote:He is overrated. The Kings should jump start a rebuild and sell the core. The DeRozan signing was just dumb.

Unless they get an offer they can’t refuse, or Fox tells them he wants out, entering another rebuild would be so dumb for a small-market team like the Kings. Small-market teams like Sacramento will never land players like De’Aaron Fox in free agency, so now that they have one and are finally competitive after decades of living in the lottery, they should trade him.

Not every NBA market and location has realistic odds to win the NBA championship. It’s really hard and takes some good fortune to build championship contenders in markets like Sacramento.

Problem is that signing guys like Fox to a huge Superman or 3rd contract at $60m+ is how you stay bad for a long time. You can’t build a good team around 2nd tier guys making top tier money.

I get it, but Fox only gets a Supermax extension by making All-NBA. He would have to play really well to earn it.

Teams in markets like Sacramento don’t have the same resources that teams like the Knicks and Lakers do. Before the 2022-2023 season, the Kings last made the playoffs in the 2005-2006 season. That’s 17 years of walking in the wilderness hoping for lottery luck. Also, with the new draft rules, Sacramento wouldn’t even have great odds of getting a top-4 pick. The Detroit Pistons have recently experienced bad lottery luck first hand with the new odds.

If a team blows Sacramento away or Fox tells their front office he wants out, then sure I can see them trading him. Otherwise, I expect them to hold on to him as long as possible.

Edit: It appears Fox has told the Kings front office he doesn’t plan on staying past the 2026 season.

codydaze wrote:I don't put much weight into this at all. The local media cohort of DLo & KC and James Ham, etc, have completely turned on Monte and have been pushing an agenda of anti-Monte reporting, whether the accusations of Monte being incompetent and Vivek being controlling or whatever is warranted is another discussion but that's just the way I see it.

Marc Spears was the first one to float the idea that Derozan to Sac could happen and Barling shut it down that same day saying he didn't expect it to go anywhere. Four days later he started speculating Derozan could come to Sac and then paraded around like he was the first one on top of the move.

You were saying?

Well what do I know, eh?