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Is Reed Sheppard too undersized/unathletic to succeed in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 6:17 pm
by Godymas
Reed Sheppard was drafted as a very raw, but potentially exciting, young point guard.

Because of the nature of playing in Houston he was always going to be at the bottom of the pecking order. However, the hope was that he could eventually develop and take the spot of FVV as a leader of the young core. In theory it's great to have a floor stretching PG like Sheppard that could be a hyper athlete playing with pace.

However, with the minimal time he's been given Sheppard has not really shown much potential or flashes.

In the G League, Sheppard has essentially dominated. In 3 games of play he averaged 30-8-4 shooting 40% from 3. However it's rare that a player dominates the G League and proceeds to really come up and make a name for themselves in the actual NBA (see Mac McClung as a recent example).

Basically no name guys put up these #s all the time and never have productive NBA careers.

Anyone who watched the Rising Stars last night, obviously the idea is that these games are not "serious" but it is a unique and big stage for these young guys who do want to prove themselves.

No one should be taking these games more seriously than the G League guys who never get a chance to show out on a big stage. Reed Sheppard was a clear headliner for the G League team in those games.

However in 12 mins of action Reed Sheppard went scoreless against a group of his peers barely playing defense.

One thing that stood out about Sheppard was his lack of size, but the other thing was his surprising lack of speed and athleticism. He looked..behind all the other NBA level talent on the floor that night.

In the few minutes he's played in the NBA, Sheppard has barely managed to do anything meaningful on the basketball court.

Sure it's tough for him to crack the rotation and get minutes, but in those garbage minutes you would expect Sheppard to show something that instills confidence in his #3 selection. Many noted analysts were very high on Sheppard after the draft. 31% FG and 27% from 3 doesn't instill any confidence.

In some ways I get flashbacks to another young guard who was selected #3 overall and hyped to be the next great American PG and has failed to deliver with even more minutes..
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So what's the feeling on Reed Sheppard? Even if he gets traded, does he feel like he might just not have the athletic skill for things to workout?

I'd recommend you compare Rob Dillingham on the floor the Reed Sheppard. The physicals are fairly similar but the difference in Dillingham looks like he actually belongs when he gets meaningful minutes. He plays fast enough and shows in skill to keep up with the NBA level. With Reed, he always looks lost, looks like he's not in the right place at the right time, and seems to lack the game feel that suggests he will be successful.

Re: Is Reed Sheppard too undersized/unathletic to succeed in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 6:25 pm
by JustBuzzin
What the happened to this kid?

He looked damn good in the summer league. He's been MIA ever since lol.

Re: Is Reed Sheppard too undersized/unathletic to succeed in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 6:28 pm
by JJ_PR
He has much better size than Kemba. If he doesn't reach his ceiling, it won't be because of his size.

Re: Is Reed Sheppard too undersized/unathletic to succeed in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 6:33 pm
by Godymas
JJ_PR wrote:He has much better size than Kemba. If he doesn't reach his ceiling, it won't be because of his size.


I mean there's HoF guys that are smaller than Sheppard who is 6'2. Chris Paul, Allen Iverson, Stockton, etc.

But Sheppard seems to lack both the raw playmaking and skill or athleticism that helped these guys establish themselves as key figures in the NBA.

If you're undersize you HAVE to be elite in either BBIQ/skills or athletic ability to succeed.

Re: Is Reed Sheppard too undersized/unathletic to succeed in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 6:37 pm
by JayMKE
People are going to say it’s too early but I don’t think he’s going improve his lack of size, length, athleticism. Can’t beat guys off the dribble and struggle to get your shot off, he’s also going to get targeted relentlessly on defense. Is he actually a point guard? Probably not.

Don’t think it’s weird to dominate G League and not the NBA either

Re: Is Reed Sheppard too undersized/unathletic to succeed in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 6:56 pm
by Karate Diop
Rockets fans over hyped him, he was never going to be that good. Only got drafted so high because the draft sucked.

Re: Is Reed Sheppard too undersized/unathletic to succeed in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 6:57 pm
by hardenASG13
He looks really small and unathletic, both last night and when he gets in games for the Rockets. I saw someone say recently he might have more potential than Amen Thompson ha. He doesn't look like a guy that will have a long NBA career to me.

Re: Is Reed Sheppard too undersized/unathletic to succeed in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 6:58 pm
by Ryoga Hibiki
When Pickett was sent to the G League he started dominating and people were laughing that off as well.
Then, when given the chance and confidence, he started performing for the Nuggets as well.

I can't believe he's that bad.

Re: Is Reed Sheppard too undersized/unathletic to succeed in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:02 pm
by Bobbymcgee
Terrible pick by the Rockets. They could have had Stephen Castle or several other decent players who are much better than Reed Sheppard. He is basically Jimmer 2.0.

Re: Is Reed Sheppard too undersized/unathletic to succeed in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:07 pm
by LockoutSeason
He’s the same size as Curry. He’s not that undersized for a PG, he’s just a bad defender.

He needs to shoot like Curry to justify being on the floor. Also needs to have enough PG skills to get by. It’s not easy.

Re: Is Reed Sheppard too undersized/unathletic to succeed in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:08 pm
by Godymas
LockoutSeason wrote:He’s the same size as Curry. He’s not that undersized for a PG, he’s just a bad defender.

He needs to shoot like Curry to justify being on the floor. Also needs to have enough PG skills to get by. It’s not easy.


Curry is also undersized, Curry is the definition of undersized. Curry's most famous trait is being undersized and changing the game for Christ's sake

Re: Is Reed Sheppard too undersized/unathletic to succeed in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:09 pm
by Bornstellar
Thank goodness Houston picked him instead of Steph Castle

Re: Is Reed Sheppard too undersized/unathletic to succeed in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:11 pm
by EmpireFalls
He’s going to be just fine when the shot starts to fall.

I think he’ll be the long term successor to FVV there.

Re: Is Reed Sheppard too undersized/unathletic to succeed in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:13 pm
by knicksfan974
I wouldn't give up on him yet. Still just a rookie, who can improve a lot. He was a consensus top3 pick so the talent and upside is still there. Size is an issue, yes, but this is something that was well known prior to draft. I'd expect him to figure it all out and have a decent NBA career, if not as a starter then as a backup.

Re: Is Reed Sheppard too undersized/unathletic to succeed in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:20 pm
by Prince187
Surprising to hear a guy with a 42 inch vertical being called “unathletic”. But then again, sadly, it’s not that surprising and we all know the ugly reason why.

Re: Is Reed Sheppard too undersized/unathletic to succeed in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:23 pm
by CROBulls
Weak draft class + picked too high. It happens. In different draft class he would went 13th instead 3rd, would struggle as a rookie. Nobody would bat an eye.

Re: Is Reed Sheppard too undersized/unathletic to succeed in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:32 pm
by JRoy
Tiny sg is a common and rarely successful archetype.

Re: Is Reed Sheppard too undersized/unathletic to succeed in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:32 pm
by ChuckChilly
Godymas wrote:
LockoutSeason wrote:He’s the same size as Curry. He’s not that undersized for a PG, he’s just a bad defender.

He needs to shoot like Curry to justify being on the floor. Also needs to have enough PG skills to get by. It’s not easy.


Curry is also undersized, Curry is the definition of undersized. Curry's most famous trait is being undersized and changing the game for Christ's sake


How is 6'2 undersized for a point guard? Where are all these 6'5 point guards at? Curry is only undersized when placed in the shooting guard position.

Re: Is Reed Sheppard too undersized/unathletic to succeed in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:37 pm
by JRoy
ChuckChilly wrote:
Godymas wrote:
LockoutSeason wrote:He’s the same size as Curry. He’s not that undersized for a PG, he’s just a bad defender.

He needs to shoot like Curry to justify being on the floor. Also needs to have enough PG skills to get by. It’s not easy.


Curry is also undersized, Curry is the definition of undersized. Curry's most famous trait is being undersized and changing the game for Christ's sake


How is 6'2 undersized for a point guard? Where are all these 6'5 point guards at? Curry is only undersized when placed in the shooting guard position.


Is he a primary playmaker or do you consider him to be a pg just because he is the tiniest guy on the floor?

Re: Is Reed Sheppard too undersized/unathletic to succeed in the NBA?

Posted: Sat Feb 15, 2025 7:38 pm
by ballzboyee
Sarr shot 24% from 3p first two months, then in December had 7 games where he shot 50 percent and finished the month posting a 45 3pt%. The splits are improving for another kid some think might be a the "b" word.

You can't make shots that you don't take, and you can't get better not being aggressive as a young player. Houston is really deep and teams are going into OKC model on defense where they have speed and lateral quickness all over the court to deal with the 5 out. Being able to jump high is great, but at the end of the day you either shoot over the defender or go around them. Curry has elite first step quickness to get to the rim. I haven't seen that first step on Reed yet. That's the key for any PG in the NBA. You can't just be a shooter as PG. If you play Curry too tight he will absolutely burn you off ball change of direction or cutting to the basket because of his quickness. Curry get labeled as just a shooter, but he's far more versatile than he gets credit than the average fan. It's too soon to say Reed's not going to make an impact, but he needs way more playing time for a pick at that level. Problem is Houston is in win now mode. They aren't try to bring along a rookie.