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Better Player: Kyrie Irving or Donovan Mitchell

Posted: Thu Mar 6, 2025 3:57 am
by mdonnelly1989
Better Player: Kyrie Irving or Donovan Mitchell

Re: Better Player: Kyrie Irving or Donavan Mitchell

Posted: Thu Mar 6, 2025 4:00 am
by uncleduck13
Mitchell easily lol

Re: Better Player: Kyrie Irving or Donavan Mitchell

Posted: Thu Mar 6, 2025 4:01 am
by Catchall
They're very close. This year it's probably been Mitchell, imo. In the past, I would have said they were fairly comparable or given the nod to Kyrie.

Re: Better Player: Kyrie Irving or Donavan Mitchell

Posted: Thu Mar 6, 2025 4:30 am
by ForeverTFC
Mitchell has been the best player on 2 quasi-contenders now. Irving has never achieved anything as the best player on his team.

Re: Better Player: Kyrie Irving or Donavan Mitchell

Posted: Thu Mar 6, 2025 4:32 am
by azcatz11
Mitchell is fringe top 5. Probably right behind Tatum. Kyrie is not in that conversation

Re: Better Player: Kyrie Irving or Donavan Mitchell

Posted: Thu Mar 6, 2025 4:37 am
by Johnny Bball
Mitchell since he has 2 ACLs at the moment.

What's the point of this?

Re: Better Player: Kyrie Irving or Donavan Mitchell

Posted: Thu Mar 6, 2025 4:49 am
by dautjazz
Mitchell doesn't get hurt and doesn't have all the offcourt drama. He's also had a few teams at the top of standings as the number one option.

Re: Better Player: Kyrie Irving or Donavan Mitchell

Posted: Thu Mar 6, 2025 5:00 am
by Winterfrost
Think it's kind of close but in recent years, it's been Mitchell. Feel like Mitchell is pretty underrated amongst fans too, maybe because of the teams he's played for.

Re: Better Player: Kyrie Irving or Donavan Mitchell

Posted: Thu Mar 6, 2025 5:17 am
by Special_Puppy
ForeverTFC wrote:Mitchell has been the best player on 2 quasi-contenders now. Irving has never achieved anything as the best player on his team.


Mitchell was definately not the best player on the Jazz

Re: Better Player: Kyrie Irving or Donavan Mitchell

Posted: Thu Mar 6, 2025 5:18 am
by Iwasawitness
I'd really like to know who the three people are that voted for Irving and what their reasoning is. I'll always be a somewhat biased Irving defender but this isn't really close...

Re: Better Player: Kyrie Irving or Donavan Mitchell

Posted: Thu Mar 6, 2025 5:41 am
by Raps in 4
Kyrie is old as **** and just blew out his ACL. I think the answer is obvious.

In their primes, they were a similar tier of player, with Mitchell having a slight edge IMO.

Re: Better Player: Kyrie Irving or Donavan Mitchell

Posted: Thu Mar 6, 2025 5:51 am
by Pantsman
Kyrie has never been able to lead a team as the best player. Mitchell has done it basically his entire career.

Re: Better Player: Kyrie Irving or Donavan Mitchell

Posted: Thu Mar 6, 2025 5:57 am
by zimpy27
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From a pure RAPM perspective over the past 3.5 years, it's been Kyrie. RAPM seems to think he's been the 2nd most impactful offensive player in the league over the past 3 seasons (Including playoff data).

Spoiler:
Adams and Chet have a low sample (<2000 minutes) in this timeframe, I'd exclude them, you ideally want 5000 minutes played

Re: Better Player: Kyrie Irving or Donavan Mitchell

Posted: Thu Mar 6, 2025 6:56 am
by Lalouie
ForeverTFC wrote:Mitchell has been the best player on 2 quasi-contenders now. Irving has never achieved anything as the best player on his team.


ummm, i'm not arguing about who is better or even who is a better leader but,,, irving has a ring and two championship appearances and instrumental in both

Re: Better Player: Kyrie Irving or Donavan Mitchell

Posted: Thu Mar 6, 2025 7:40 am
by brutalitops
Probably Mitchell

Re: Better Player: Kyrie Irving or Donavan Mitchell

Posted: Thu Mar 6, 2025 7:43 am
by KGtabake
ForeverTFC wrote:Mitchell has been the best player on 2 quasi-contenders now. Irving has never achieved anything as the best player on his team.


Would Mitchell be the best player on the Cavs from 2015-19?
On the Celtics from 2020 to 2022?
On the Nets from 2022 to 2024?
On the Mavs from 2024 til the Luka trade?
To be fair, Mitchell has never played with players of the caliber of Lebron, KD, Tatum or Luka. Irving has.
Plus, Mitchell wasn't the best player on the Jazz.
He's the best player of the Cavs now. Still there isn't any player there that belongs on the upper achelon.

Re: Better Player: Kyrie Irving or Donavan Mitchell

Posted: Thu Mar 6, 2025 7:50 am
by Kingdibs19
Mitchell and it’s not even close

Re: Better Player: Kyrie Irving or Donavan Mitchell

Posted: Thu Mar 6, 2025 7:58 am
by UcanUwill
I thought Mitchell for sure, but when I voted on a poll, I feared I could be in minority as it felt close. But no, seems like most would agree with me here, Mitchell.

Re: Better Player: Kyrie Irving or Donavan Mitchell

Posted: Thu Mar 6, 2025 8:09 am
by JujitsuFlip
Lalouie wrote:
ForeverTFC wrote:Mitchell has been the best player on 2 quasi-contenders now. Irving has never achieved anything as the best player on his team.


ummm, i'm not arguing about who is better or even who is a better leader but,,, irving has a ring and two championship appearances and instrumental in both
Make Mitchell the #2 option next to LeBron or Luka and I'm sure he finally makes a Finals appearance too.

Re: Better Player: Kyrie Irving or Donavan Mitchell

Posted: Thu Mar 6, 2025 8:19 am
by NO-KG-AI
Kyrie should be better in theory, but he never really is for any meaningful stretches. People are gonna watch highlights and see his finals run with LeBron in the future and rank him way higher than he ever actually was during his time playing.