Gobert is an embarrassment to the DPOY award

[UglyBugBall]

If you're literally being hunted in the playoffs on every single possession you're not a good defender. The guy isn't just being outplayed in a couple of highlights, he's being hunted harder than Trae Young every time he's in the playoffs.

There should be a rule for voters - if your guy is being hunted by opponents every season then he's probably not a good defender.

Please stop this travesty and start awarding DPOY to guys that deter shots, not guys that invite them by being hunted.

[Calvin Klein]

Oh, this again....great.

[Effigy]

I mean, it's easy to hunt a guy when you know the refs are going to call everything in your favor.

[tsherkin]

If you're literally being hunted in the playoffs on every single possession you're not a good defender. The guy isn't just being outplayed in a couple of highlights, he's being hunted harder than Trae Young every time he's in the playoffs.

This seems to escape the fact that the guys who are hunting him aren't at his position. That's the whole idea behind a mismatch hunt. It's like blaming the little dudes David Robinson used to pick on with cross screens for not being able to defend a 7'1 athlete, only in reverse. It doesn't make sense. The literal premise of what they're doing is using the mobility of a smaller player to attack the otherwise significant value of a rim-protecting big.

If Dikembe Mutombo was in the NBA today, teams would mismatch hunt him as well, but you'd have to be purely clowning to suggest he wasn't a DPOY impact guy...

[Shaka_Zulu]

How inane do you have to be, to see game 2? See him defend well mostly in iso despite guards switching him on perimeter (completely outside his expertise zone), and think his defense is bad?


Like do people like you just have predetermined takes before games?

[Homer38]

I mean, it's easy to hunt a guy when you know the refs are going to call everything in your favor.

Gobert had only 1 foul in game 2....

[UglyBugBall]

How inane do you have to be, to see game 2? See him defend well mostly in iso despite guards switching him on perimeter (completely outside his expertise zone), and think his defense is bad?


Like do people like you just have predetermined takes before games?

In the first half he was being absolutely cooked. By the second half the game was largely over. Not only are guys putting up points on him, but it's a massive confidence booster for the team every time they see Gobert out there. He's the equivalent of a gatorade timeout in 2K, every time he's out there the stats of everyone on the opposing team goes up by 5.

[UglyBugBall]

If you're literally being hunted in the playoffs on every single possession you're not a good defender. The guy isn't just being outplayed in a couple of highlights, he's being hunted harder than Trae Young every time he's in the playoffs.

This seems to escape the fact that the guys who are hunting him aren't at his position. That's the whole idea behind a mismatch hunt. It's like blaming the little dudes David Robinson used to pick on with cross screens for not being able to defend a 7'1 athlete, only in reverse. It doesn't make sense. The literal premise of what they're doing is using the mobility of a smaller player to attack the otherwise significant value of a rim-protecting big.

If Dikembe Mutombo was in the NBA today, teams would mismatch hunt him as well, but you'd have to be purely clowning to suggest he wasn't a DPOY impact guy...

If the modern NBA means 7 foot centers that cant move get hunted, then maybe 7 foot centers that can't move shouldn't be winning DPOY's anymore. IDK what Mutambo would look like today, but I can see what Gobert looks like and it's not DPOY material. You can't get targeted like Trae Young in the playoffs and call yourself DPOY.

[Godymas]

Gobert was not good last night, but the refs were also atrocious for the TWolves including calling egregious flops

[UglyBugBall]

I mean, it's easy to hunt a guy when you know the refs are going to call everything in your favor.

He had 1 foul and there's really no way for the refs to call more on him, because he's doing the river dance 10 feet away by the time the shot goes off.

[tsherkin]

If the modern NBA means 7 foot centers that cant move get hunted, then maybe 7 foot centers that can't move shouldn't be winning DPOY's anymore. IDK what Mutambo would look like today, but I can see what Gobert looks like and it's not DPOY material. You can't get targeted like Trae Young in the playoffs and call yourself DPOY.

They should if their ability to impact the game remains strong, as does Gobert's. So setting aside your perception of his ability to defend the perimeter, which wasn't really an issue in Game 2, you might want to consider the -16.6% defensive FG% differential he has on 17DFGA/g in the first round so far. He's actually been doing quite well.

Meantime, the Lakers are 7.2 points of ORTG worse than they were in the RS so far over the first two games in this series, and it's not like LA was killing it from the floor last night. Minny's problem was shooting 38% from the field, not their defense. They scored 15 points in the first quarter, man.

[Effigy]

I mean, it's easy to hunt a guy when you know the refs are going to call everything in your favor.

He had 1 foul and there's really no way for the refs to call more on him, because he's doing the river dance 10 feet away by the time the shot goes off.

Lol. Why do you think he's trying so hard to avoid contact? He can see what the refs are doing as well as the rest of us.

[Tracymcgoaty]

I actually thought gobert defended well in those isos to be honest. Luka is just that good. In the end fine AR got the best of him 1-2 possessions but overall he defended well.

Really we would expose it way better if Lebron was still able to drive the ball at an elite level.

[sp6r=underrated]

If you're literally being hunted in the playoffs on every single possession you're not a good defender. The guy isn't just being outplayed in a couple of highlights, he's being hunted harder than Trae Young every time he's in the playoffs.

Dumbass, the Wolves defense is much better with him on the court than off it. There are a lot of fair knocks on Gobert but "Gobert secretly sucks on defense" is based off of a couple series over his entire career. He's an unfairly maligned player.

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[UglyBugBall]

If you're literally being hunted in the playoffs on every single possession you're not a good defender. The guy isn't just being outplayed in a couple of highlights, he's being hunted harder than Trae Young every time he's in the playoffs.

Dumbass, the Wolves defense is much better with him on the court than off it.

Until the playoffs come and every one is hunting him. Do you think teams hunt him because he's a great defender, or because they know he's BBQ Chicken?

[The Master]

Wolves have 102 DRTG rating in these two games with Rudy on a court, and Gobert is defending opponents on 32.4 FG% so far.

OP, are you watching this series?

I don't think it is sustainable, but Gobert has been playing very well defensively so far, insane timing for this thread.

[Shaka_Zulu]

How inane do you have to be, to see game 2? See him defend well mostly in iso despite guards switching him on perimeter (completely outside his expertise zone), and think his defense is bad?


Like do people like you just have predetermined takes before games?

In the first half he was being absolutely cooked. By the second half the game was largely over. Not only are guys putting up points on him, but it's a massive confidence booster for the team every time they see Gobert out there. He's the equivalent of a gatorade timeout in 2K, every time he's out there the stats of everyone on the opposing team goes up by 5.

Is that why Luka was 1-4 on ISO vs him?

He had one tough shot bucket on him, one kinda finish an elite guy like Luka knows how to do. Like where's the bad defence in this? Except being afraid to get too close and get some silly whistle against him:

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Luka if not foul baiting, was mostly passing out of the Gobert isos last night?

Luka and bron was 1-8 on iso shot attempts on him. Reaves had the best buckets on him, and that was purely due to speed, a shifty shooting guard beating a 7 foot center on foot race to the basket, shocker?


Direct shot attempts isos on Gobert last night was not a good procentage at all for attackers last night.


He was worse in game 1 where Luka was getting anything he wanted on him. But game 2 Gobert iso defence was defenitely better.



So what are we even talking about? A 7 foot rim protector is dragged out to perimeter for iso, and they still don't have good procentage on him, or he litterally does as good job as a big could in such a scenario, but a generational offensive machine hits a tough shot (or foul baits), and it's embarrassing? Do you watch a different sport, or again have already predetermined your take before the game?




Gobert deserves HUGE criticism for two things last night. His rebounding, couldn't catch anything 2 handed, just went up with 1 hand. And as allways, throughout his career, his offense game is so bad it becomes a detriment in some games (especially when rest of team besides Randle are struggling).

[sp6r=underrated]

If you're literally being hunted in the playoffs on every single possession you're not a good defender. The guy isn't just being outplayed in a couple of highlights, he's being hunted harder than Trae Young every time he's in the playoffs.

Dumbass, the Wolves defense is much better with him on the court than off it.

Until the playoffs come and every one is hunting him. Do you think teams hunt him because he's a great defender, or because they know he's BBQ Chicken?

There better in this series with him on the court than off it dumbass. I truly don't know how you can watch G1/G2 and not notice the lakers have an awfully hard time scoring close to the rim thanks to Gobert.

The fact he makes it hard to score next to the rim is far more important than 1-2 possessions in which he looks awkward guarding a perimeter player.

[sp6r=underrated]

Wolves have 102 DRTG rating in these two games with Rudy on a court, and Gobert is defending opponents on 32.4 FG% so far.

OP, are you watching this series?

I don't think it is sustainable, but Gobert has been playing very well defensively so far, insane timing for this thread.

Thank you. To me watching this series it is obvious he has a massive impact on defense. If you want to knock anything Gobert go at his offense. There are things to critique there. But attacking him on defense is just absurd.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/g/goberru01/on-off/2025

[nate33]

Gobert is almost 33 years old. He is losing a step and has become more of a problem in a switch. That doesn't mean he wasn't DPOY-worthy in his prime.