Actual question: seen the footage during the games, but could we actually say that Jokic IS the de facto HC?
Posted: Wed May 7, 2025 5:21 pm
If so, even to a certain extent, that's... between lulz and crazy.
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Actual question: seen the footage during the games, but could we actually say that Jokic IS the de facto HC?
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Re: Actual question: seen the footage during the games, but could we actually say that Jokic IS the de facto HC?
Posted: Wed May 7, 2025 5:25 pm
Translation?
Re: Actual question: seen the footage during the games, but could we actually say that Jokic IS the de facto HC?
Posted: Wed May 7, 2025 5:26 pm
No.
Re: Actual question: seen the footage during the games, but could we actually say that Jokic IS the de facto HC?
Posted: Wed May 7, 2025 6:08 pm
tsherkin wrote:Translation?
I think he's asking if Jokic is actually the Head Coach
Re: Actual question: seen the footage during the games, but could we actually say that Jokic IS the de facto HC?
Posted: Wed May 7, 2025 6:10 pm
LeBron isn't just getting dethroned as the best player, but the best player-coach and GM too. Damn.
Re: Actual question: seen the footage during the games, but could we actually say that Jokic IS the de facto HC?
Posted: Wed May 7, 2025 6:15 pm
LeBron as been the Laker's HC and GM for years now.
Re: Actual question: seen the footage during the games, but could we actually say that Jokic IS the de facto HC?
Posted: Wed May 7, 2025 6:16 pm
This love fest is hilarious on this board. Several players have been seeing doing this in the past.
Re: Actual question: seen the footage during the games, but could we actually say that Jokic IS the de facto HC?
Posted: Wed May 7, 2025 6:34 pm
DusterBuster wrote:tsherkin wrote:Translation?
I think he's asking if Jokic is actually the Head Coach
Ah, very good. Thanks.
Re: Actual question: seen the footage during the games, but could we actually say that Jokic IS the de facto HC?
Posted: Wed May 7, 2025 6:40 pm
DusterBuster wrote:tsherkin wrote:Translation?
I think he's asking if Jokic is actually the Head Coach
Man I was so confused. I thought he was saying Jokic is the home court. Like what?
Re: Actual question: seen the footage during the games, but could we actually say that Jokic IS the de facto HC?
Posted: Wed May 7, 2025 7:01 pm
I suspect Jokic has always done stuff like this, and they’re just televising it now because Denver just fired their coach so showing this to viewers makes for an interesting thing to talk about.
Re: Actual question: seen the footage during the games, but could we actually say that Jokic IS the de facto HC?
Posted: Wed May 7, 2025 7:01 pm
tsherkin wrote:Translation?
Re: Actual question: seen the footage during the games, but could we actually say that Jokic IS the de facto HC?
Posted: Wed May 7, 2025 7:03 pm
Raps in 4 wrote:LeBron isn't just getting dethroned as the best player, but the best player-coach and GM too. Damn.
If Jokic wins a title this year, he'd be the first to do so since LeBron coaching the Cavs along with Ty "who" Lue that was just watching, listening and learning from LeBron
Re: Actual question: seen the footage during the games, but could we actually say that Jokic IS the de facto HC?
Posted: Wed May 7, 2025 7:07 pm
No. It's also safe to say that point guards like Jason Kidd, Nash and Payton ++ did the same thing, running the team that is. With that said, I think todays superstar players have more leverage on how to run the offence.
Re: Actual question: seen the footage during the games, but could we actually say that Jokic IS the de facto HC?
Posted: Wed May 7, 2025 7:15 pm
dhsilv2 wrote:DusterBuster wrote:tsherkin wrote:Translation?
I think he's asking if Jokic is actually the Head Coach
Man I was so confused. I thought he was saying Jokic is the home court. Like what?
Re: Actual question: seen the footage during the games, but could we actually say that Jokic IS the de facto HC?
Posted: Wed May 7, 2025 7:16 pm
Jokic is the head coach, best player, GM, owner, and mascot.
Re: Actual question: seen the footage during the games, but could we actually say that Jokic IS the de facto HC?
Posted: Wed May 7, 2025 7:56 pm
dirkdiggler4177 wrote:No. It's also safe to say that point guards like Jason Kidd, Nash and Payton ++ did the same thing, running the team that is. With that said, I think todays superstar players have more leverage on how to run the offence.
Jokic's defensive coaching is honestly what makes him stand out. He's calling plays back to his teammates and moving them on out of bounds in real time. It's crazy
Re: Actual question: seen the footage during the games, but could we actually say that Jokic IS the de facto HC?
Posted: Wed May 7, 2025 8:38 pm
Conspiracy theory : With the fiasco of the MPJ contract and the apron rules, the DEN FO are getting creative on how to pay their players. What better way to overpay Jokic than by giving him 2 salaries with one of them not counting against the CAP?
Genius.
Genius.
Re: Actual question: seen the footage during the games, but could we actually say that Jokic IS the de facto HC?
Posted: Wed May 7, 2025 8:45 pm
The4thHorseman wrote:Raps in 4 wrote:LeBron isn't just getting dethroned as the best player, but the best player-coach and GM too. Damn.
If Jokic wins a title this year, he'd be the first to do so since LeBron coaching the Cavs along with Ty "who" Lue that was just watching, listening and learning from LeBron
Thought OP's thread was bad but then I realized there are people who actually believe stuff like this.
Re: Actual question: seen the footage during the games, but could we actually say that Jokic IS the de facto HC?
Posted: Wed May 7, 2025 9:25 pm
dhsilv2 wrote:dirkdiggler4177 wrote:No. It's also safe to say that point guards like Jason Kidd, Nash and Payton ++ did the same thing, running the team that is. With that said, I think todays superstar players have more leverage on how to run the offence.
Jokic's defensive coaching is honestly what makes him stand out. He's calling plays back to his teammates and moving them on out of bounds in real time. It's crazy
I don't know, man, I'm not hating, but high IQ players watch a lot of film and see plays coming. You can't win a championship if you don't know what plays the other team is running. It's not that special. There's just not a lot of focus on players' communication. Like you never hear coaches scream out plays or defensive schemes, but suddenly the team is playing box and one. Even the commentators don't catch it before they see how the players are set up.
edit.
Here you also have KCP being interviewed on how he learned to watch films by those guys and how important it was to know what was going to happen
https://youtu.be/tz_f7vh7PXc?t=279
Re: Actual question: seen the footage during the games, but could we actually say that Jokic IS the de facto HC?
Posted: Wed May 7, 2025 9:34 pm
dirkdiggler4177 wrote:dhsilv2 wrote:dirkdiggler4177 wrote:No. It's also safe to say that point guards like Jason Kidd, Nash and Payton ++ did the same thing, running the team that is. With that said, I think todays superstar players have more leverage on how to run the offence.
Jokic's defensive coaching is honestly what makes him stand out. He's calling plays back to his teammates and moving them on out of bounds in real time. It's crazy
I don't know, man, I'm not hating, but high IQ players watch a lot of film and see plays coming. You can't win a championship if you don't know what plays the other team is running. It's not that special. There's just not a lot of focus on players' communication. Like you never hear coaches scream out plays or defensive schemes, but suddenly the team is playing box and one. Even the commentators don't catch it before they see how the players are set up.
I mean Rondo and Lebron are two of the nerdiest NBA players ever. So yeah...I'm not saying he's one of one. Thought some of his call outs I've noticed in game are pretty wild. But again, if Lebron and Rondo are our examples....ok. Those guys watch mroe game film than most coaches.