Is Siakam a top 20 player?

Apoe · Post #1 » by **Apoe** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 12:26 pm

At the start of next season: which players are you taking before Siakam in a fantasy draft? Since his Toronto days i always thought he is extremely versatile, underrated and undervalued by many fans. This playoff run has certainly confirmed my feelings.

So i am curious:

A) Is Siakam a top 20 player in the league?
B) Has he been a top 20 player the last 5 seasons?

Liam_Gallagher · Post #2 » by **Liam_Gallagher** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 12:30 pm

Sure.

Optms · Post #3 » by **Optms** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 12:33 pm

ANT
Luka
Bron
AD
Kawhi
Shai
Haliburton
KAT
Brunson
Giannis
Mitchell
Banchero
Butler
Franz
Jokic
Tatum
Brown
Curry
Cade
Wemby
Garland
Mobley

That's 22 right off the top of my head that I would take and I'm probably forgetting someone obvious. I wouldn't take him top 20 myself no.

kenwood3333 · Post #4 » by **kenwood3333** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 12:39 pm

The question is if he is a top 20 fantasy player, its definitely a yes. He fills up the stat sheet well at above average efficiency.

-Luke- · Post #5 » by **-Luke-** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 12:44 pm

He's solidly in my top 20, just like 34 other players.

Kingdibs19 · Post #6 » by **Kingdibs19** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 1:26 pm

kenwood3333 wrote:The question is if he is a top 20 fantasy player, its definitely a yes. He fills up the stat sheet well at above average efficiency.

OP messed up his own thread by mentioning fantasy. Pretty sure he just meant top 20 as a player but now everyone is confused.

Childs · Post #7 » by **Childs** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 1:37 pm

1.5 years ago, I was told that Jonathan Kuminga and Keegan Murray were better players, and now hes a top 20 player. :roll:

YogurtProducer · Post #8 » by **YogurtProducer** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 1:44 pm

Optms wrote:ANT
Luka
Bron
AD
Kawhi
Shai
Haliburton
KAT
Brunson
Giannis
Mitchell
Banchero
Butler
Franz
Jokic
Tatum
Brown
Curry
Cade
Wemby
Garland
Mobley

That's 22 right off the top of my head that I would take and I'm probably forgetting someone obvious. I wouldn't take him top 20 myself no.

I think in a single game situation it is debatable on Paolo, Franz, Garland, Mobley, Brown.

ChumboChappati · Post #9 » by **ChumboChappati** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 2:04 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:
Optms wrote:ANT
Luka
Bron
AD
Kawhi
Shai
Haliburton
KAT
Brunson
Giannis
Mitchell
Banchero
Butler
Franz
Jokic
Tatum
Brown
Curry
Cade
Wemby
Garland
Mobley

That's 22 right off the top of my head that I would take and I'm probably forgetting someone obvious. I wouldn't take him top 20 myself no.

I think in a single game situation it is debatable on Paolo, Franz, Garland, Mobley, Brown.

you are so delusional :lol:

Strike: Trolling

Bush4Ever · Post #10 » by **Bush4Ever** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 2:05 pm

I think most people would place him in a (maybe 10-15 players worth) bucket of players who have an argument to creep into the top 20.

If that's true, it depends on the night. On average, I would estimate him falling just outside the top 20, but I'm maybe a little higher on him than the average.

Just a guess though.

Karate Diop · Post #11 » by **Karate Diop** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 2:10 pm

No... People are going way too overboard with him owning the Knicks. It's not like he was playing against a juggernaut opponent :lol:

lambchop · Post #12 » by **lambchop** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 2:23 pm

I'd compare him to Jimmy Butler in terms of perception. Similarly to prime Jimmy he elevated his game in the playoffs, but he hasn't shown enough regular season consistency to warrant calling him a top 20 guy.

strokerace · Post #13 » by **strokerace** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 2:26 pm

It's almost like everyone has only a 2 month memory with some of the opinions. Siakam has had an exceptional playoff run but if you include his play over the last year or 2, he's nowhere near a top 20 player. Would you guys really sign him to a supermax contract right now??

YogurtProducer · Post #14 » by **YogurtProducer** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 2:33 pm

ChumboChappati wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:
Optms wrote:ANT
Luka
Bron
AD
Kawhi
Shai
Haliburton
KAT
Brunson
Giannis
Mitchell
Banchero
Butler
Franz
Jokic
Tatum
Brown
Curry
Cade
Wemby
Garland
Mobley

That's 22 right off the top of my head that I would take and I'm probably forgetting someone obvious. I wouldn't take him top 20 myself no.

I think in a single game situation it is debatable on Paolo, Franz, Garland, Mobley, Brown.

you are so delusional

Siakam is 20/7/3 on 60TS%
Paolo is 26/7/5 on 55TS%
Franz is 24/6/5 on 56TS%
Garland is 21/3/7 on 60TS%
Mobley is 19/9/3 on 63TS%

Lets not forget Siakam as a #1 option was a 24/8/6 on 57TS% guy himself

It really is not that crazy. Outside of Mobley, he is also the best defender of the bunch.

TheGeneral99 · Post #15 » by **TheGeneral99** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 2:51 pm

He's in that range from 17-25.

Post #16 » by **Duffman100** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 3:04 pm

YogurtProducer wrote:
ChumboChappati wrote:
YogurtProducer wrote:I think in a single game situation it is debatable on Paolo, Franz, Garland, Mobley, Brown.

you are so delusional

Siakam is 20/7/3 on 60TS%
Paolo is 26/7/5 on 55TS%
Franz is 24/6/5 on 56TS%
Garland is 21/3/7 on 60TS%
Mobley is 19/9/3 on 63TS%

Lets not forget Siakam as a #1 option was a 24/8/6 on 57TS% guy himself

It really is not that crazy. Outside of Mobley, he is also the best defender of the bunch.

Yeah it's really not that hot of a take.

TheAlchemist · Post #17 » by **TheAlchemist** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 3:05 pm

I don't have a top 20, I have a top 10 and even then it's like a Top 7 with some honorable mentions.

Top "20" for me is a rotating door of who's playing good in the league. Nothing is static. For instance Jimmy Butler would've been in my top 20. After the playoffs, nope. And that's a pretty decent argument.

The Servant · Post #18 » by **The Servant** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 3:35 pm

Childs wrote:1.5 years ago, I was told that Jonathan Kuminga and Keegan Murray were better players, and now hes a top 20 player.

No one has ever been high on Kuminga, periodt. Lies.

Childs · Post #19 » by **Childs** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 3:39 pm

The Servant wrote:
Childs wrote:1.5 years ago, I was told that Jonathan Kuminga and Keegan Murray were better players, and now hes a top 20 player.

No one has ever been high on Kuminga, periodt. Lies.

https://www.nbcsports.com/nba/news/warriors-reportedly-dont-want-to-trade-kuminga-for-siakam-or-anyone-torontos-options-limited

The Golden State Warriors are rumored to be interested in acquiring former All-NBA forward Pascal Siakam via trade. The Toronto Raptors veteran is in the final year of his deal and will become an unrestricted free agent in the summer. The Raptors are expected to part ways with Siakam following their recent decision to send OG Anunoby to the New York Knicks.

According to multiple sources, the Warriors are loathe to trade Kuminga, who is seen as a potential star who can help them win now and in the future, the rare piece on the roster who can help Golden State both support Steph Curry in the present and transition to a successful post-Curry future, should it ever come,” Grange reported.

Ok.

xxSnEaKyPxx · Post #20 » by **xxSnEaKyPxx** » Tue Jun 3, 2025 3:40 pm

As others have said, there are a lot of players who are guaranteed in the top 20, then you’ve got a bunch of guys on the fringe for it, where you can make arguments for any of them. Siakam is probably in the fringe group, however adding in the “what have you done for me lately” factor, it’s easy to pick a guy who won Eastern Conference MVP over guys who couldn’t make the playoffs or went out in round 1.