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Let's start with the most recent move, Brandon Ingram.

Brandon Ingram is the culmination of the Pascal Siakam trade. Toronto sent Siakam to Indiana for Bruce Brown, Kira Lewis, Jordan Nwora, and 3 first round picks. With that pick they selected Jakobe Walter. They flipped Kira Lewis Jr. into Ochai Agbaji and Kelly Olynyk.

With Olynyk and Bruce Brown and one of the picks they flipped that into Brandon Ingram. Btw, Indiana got that pick back from the Pelicans.

Masai immediately extends Ingram, who is injured btw, 3 years $120 million.

Brandon Ingram has never played 65 games in his career. He's never played 65 games for his career while also almost never making the playoffs, oh and Masai got him while he was injured. He's going to be 28-30 on that contract as an injury prone player.

Now let's move onto another more recent move, the return for OG Anunoby. OG was shipped out with Precious Achiuwa and Malachi Flynn for RJ Barrett, Immanuel Quickley, and a 2nd round pick. Indiana and Memphis offered them 3 first round picks, but Masai wanted real players, not to rely on his drafting ability. Btw, those Memphis picks, could have been quite juicy.

Obviously Masai can't just trade for guys, he has to EXTEND them, because he has PTSD from the legendary Kawhi Leonard trade where he got his guy and then Kawhi walks immediately. Masai is so concerned that teams will be biting at Immanuel Quickley so he gives Quickley $175 million (btw Quickley was exclusively coming off the bench for a majority of his career, but hey it worked for JAMES HARDEN) and thankfully RJ Barrett was already locked up @ a nice $107 million extension so Masai was ecstatic to have his 53% career TS non playmaking, mediocre defensive wing! Did you know RJ Barrett is below 70% on his career FTs?

Oh and we cannot forget about Scottie Barnes, so many teams were willing to offer him the max extension as a RFA, Masai was so worried that he would piss off his superstar SCOTTIE BARNES, so he flat out offers the extension without waiting for anyone else to speak up. Can't risk seeing him walk just like Fred Vanvleet or Kyle Lowry.

Oh yeah, let's talk about the guys that had value that Masai let walk. Obviously there's the infamous Kawhi Leonard situation, but let's not forget that Kyle Lowry was supposed to be traded, but ultimately was denied because Masai wanted TALEN HORTON TUCKER included in the deal and the Lakers refused to give him up.

Oh yes and Fred Vanvleet, your undrafted gem who miraculously makes an All Star team, well he's a clear culture setter, part of what we're trying to do, no need to ever trade him, we're not worried about the fact that he could decline his PO 2 years after his All Star selection and try and force his way elsewhere, no need to consider trading him.

Oh and in case you forgot, Serge Ibaka had a career year on the Raptors prior to walking as an FA. Serge had Toronto on a 15-8 season shooting 38% from 3, but nah, we don't him trade him in the middle of his obvious attempts to get a payday, we'll hold him. He's not tight with our former fun guy Kawhi Leonard, they wouldn't want to play together again. A contender wouldn't have overpaid for an expiring $21 million guy. Remember when Serge Ibaka returned Domantas Sabonis and Victor Oladipo in a trade with the Magic?

This dude sucks, Toronto is screwed, $600 million guaranteed to RJ Barrett, Immanuel Quickley, Scottie Barnes, and Brandon Ingram. I like Scottie, maybe one day he makes an All NBA third team, is he ever going to lead them to 50 wins in a regular season? I would wager that if Scottie Barnes is the #1 option they will not get 50 wins.

BY THE WAY, Scottie Barnes was the only player in Toronto to make 65 games last season. I guess the future of Toronto rides on Dick.

lol at mentioning ibaka

Fun read! Five stars.

Wow. I hope that was therapeutic for you.

Didn't we have a thread for this?

Backcountry wrote:Wow. I hope that was therapeutic for you.

this guy has been sucking for years now and has been defended frothing at the mouth because "he made the best trade ever to win now" and "he built pretender contender Denver"

Demar?....is that you?

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I was nodding in solidarity with you until you started mentioning old ass Ibaka and what massive trade value he had if only Masai would trade him.



Same Ibaka who's competitve career was over litterally as soon as he left Raptors. He was so washed and injury riddled old guy, that he became a bench cheerleader more known for his cooking show.

scrabbarista wrote:Fun read! Five stars.

I would rate it as 1 3/4 stars.

It wasn’t a good read. It was highly derivative of what has been posted and been regurgitated without substance. In fact to say it was “fun” would indicate that it provide some level of entertainment which it lacks.

Some people have way too much time on their hands. Wrote an essay just to troll a fanbase.

With that said, I did have a good chuckle.

blah blah blah. This is verbal diarrhea.

Shaka_Zulu wrote:I was nodding in solidarity with you until you started mentioning old ass Ibaka and what massive trade value he had if only Masai would trade him.



Same Ibaka who's competitve career was over litterally as soon as he left Raptors. He was so washed and injury riddled old guy, that he became a bench cheerleader more known for his cooking show.

Crazy how you say that about Ibaka, and not Lowry who was also clearly washed as soon as he left Toronto, and he was putting up #s too before walking.

The point is, when you have an expiring guy who is clearly over performing for his contract, you trade him 100% of the time at the deadline because the alternative is you get nothing and he walks in FA.

By the way, they had to lose a first round pick dump Dragic who was the return for Lowry.

I do think he seriously messed up the end years and trade of FVV, OG, and Siakam.

You can always argue about individual transactions.

But Masai's role was clearly bigger than that. And his firing was driven more by that larger role than any specific move or non-move.

OP is drawing less ire for crapping all over Masai then I did for simply saying he was just overrated

Duffman100 wrote:lol at mentioning ibaka

Oh man, the dark days are here again. Gonna have your hands full huh?

i expected more capital letters.

Some Raptor fans would rather lose with Masai because of everything he does and represents that has nothing to do with basketball then admit he's been objectively awful for a long time

Yo, check the mic, it’s Slim Shady with the scoop,
Masai’s out here wheelin’, but the Raptors in a loop.
Ingram’s the big grab, from Siakam’s trade they spun,
Flipped picks, Brown, and Olynyk, thought they won.
But BI’s always hurt, never hits 65 games,
$120 mil for three years, Masai’s playin’ flames.
Injured at the start, age 28 to 30,
Playoff hopes? Man, that’s lookin’ dirty.

Then OG’s trade, shipped with Precious, Flynn too,
For RJ, Quickley, and a second—Masai’s crew.
Coulda had three firsts, Memphis picks were sweet,
But he wanted players, not draft dreams to meet.
Quickley’s bench vibe, still got $175 mil,
RJ’s locked for $107, but his game ain’t a thrill.
Mediocre D, no playmakes, free throws under 70,
Toronto’s wallet bleedin’, man, this ain’t heavenly.

Scottie Barnes, the star, maxed out with no wait,
Scared he’d walk like Kawhi, Masai can’t take that fate.
Lowry, Fred, Ibaka—let ‘em slip, no trade,
Coulda cashed out big, but Masai’s plans frayed.
Lowry begged for THT, Lakers laughed, said nope,
Fred’s All-Star shine? Gone, let him slide down the rope.
Ibaka’s 3s were poppin’, coulda flipped for a steal,
But Masai held tight, now the squad’s losin’ zeal.

$600 mil locked in—RJ, Quick, Scottie, BI,
Scottie’s the hope, but 50 wins? Man, that’s a lie.
Only dude playin’ 65, the rest break down quick,
Toronto’s future? Ridin’ on Gradey Dick.
This roster’s a gamble, Masai’s rollin’ dice,
Raptors stuck in the mud, yo, this ain’t paradise.

wegotthabeet wrote:blah blah blah. This is verbal diarrhea.

Same level diarrhea that Raptors fans have been posting for years on this board defending him.
“Giannis is coming because Masai helped him”

What’s funny is this crap getting republished til a couple weeks ago

https://raptorsrapture.com/masai-ujiri-raptors-key-winning-giannis-antetokounmpo-sweepstakes