[Fischer] There is no market for Cam Thomas or Giddey
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[Fischer] There is no market for Cam Thomas or Giddey
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[Fischer] There is no market for Cam Thomas or Giddey
Jake Fischer: “Cam Thomas—no—does not really have a market, to my understanding. Josh Giddy also—I think people know what his price tag, he would like it to be. We’ve heard he wants $30 million as well. I don’t see a widespread market for that on the open market right now too.”
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Cam shouldn't, he's a ballhogging out of shape son of a gun. However, the Bulls can't look Giddey and his agent in the face and not offer more than they paid Patrick Williams. Maybe had they paid P-Will 40 million over five years instead of 90. They have to pay Giddey. Freaking Caruso won a ring and signed an extension with OKC.
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Kinda surprised Giddey can't get $30 million. Not so much with Cam, guys like him aren't getting paid much nowadays.
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Nobody has any money
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7seventynine9 wrote:Kinda surprised Giddey can't get $30 million. Not so much with Cam, guys like him aren't getting paid much nowadays.
Not a great defender. Had 1 year of his best 3pt shooting in a contract year.... Didn't impact winning. I wouldn't want to give him 30 million and nobody has any money left
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GIMME_DATT wrote:Nobody has any money
Yep. All about the leverage! His only leverage is to sign the QO and try again next year. There's no money out there so Bulls are right to hold firm presumably around 25 per. Giddey is no sure thing. He looked really good post ASB, but there's no guarantee that carries over. And if it doesn't and he reverts back to pre-ASB Giddey, then even $25 per will be a disasterous contract
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M2J wrote:7seventynine9 wrote:Kinda surprised Giddey can't get $30 million. Not so much with Cam, guys like him aren't getting paid much nowadays.
Not a great defender. Had 1 year of his 3pt shooting in a contract year.... Didn't impact winning. I wouldn't want to give him 30 million and nobody has any money left
IF Karnišovas hasany brain left, he has to low ball Giddey. I know he is one of their main assets, but it is asinine how GMs turn assets into negative assets just by not wanting to lose an asset. We saw Giddey in a play in, dude can not play any defense, if you give him 30 mil a year, Bulls fans I know will be so freaking mad.
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Will be very interesting to see if these guys bet on themselves or take the guaranteed money.
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7seventynine9 wrote:Kinda surprised Giddey can't get $30 million. Not so much with Cam, guys like him aren't getting paid much nowadays.
Neither Cam or Giddey play any defense.
And with how we just saw from all final 4 teams in the playoffs, defense and not being a liability on that end of the floor is incredibly valuable.
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UcanUwill wrote:M2J wrote:7seventynine9 wrote:Kinda surprised Giddey can't get $30 million. Not so much with Cam, guys like him aren't getting paid much nowadays.
Not a great defender. Had 1 year of his 3pt shooting in a contract year.... Didn't impact winning. I wouldn't want to give him 30 million and nobody has any money left
IF Karnišovas hasany brain left, he has to low ball Giddey. I know he is one of their main assets, but it is asinine how GMs turn assets into negative assets just by not wanting to lose an asset. We saw Giddey in a play in, dude can not play any defense, if you give him 30 mil a year, Bulls fans I know will be so freaking mad.
wirhout going to far, because ruining the relationship isn't smart, either.
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Dominator83 wrote:GIMME_DATT wrote:Nobody has any money
Yep. All about the leverage! His only leverage is to sign the QO and try again next year. There's no money out there so Bulls are right to hold firm presumably around 25 per. Giddey is no sure thing. He looked really good post ASB, but there's no guarantee that carries over. And if it doesn't and he reverts back to pre-ASB Giddey, then even $25 per will be a disasterous contract
Money won’t be there next year either. The apron rules are set, you can only really pay 2 people then everyone else needs to be decent contracts. They’d be better offer taking 60 over 3 years with player option for year 3 because they haven’t shown they can be THE GUY. This gets them fair money now, an easy out if they develop further or a safety of an extra year of good pay if they don’t.
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Ryoga Hibiki wrote:UcanUwill wrote:M2J wrote:
Not a great defender. Had 1 year of his 3pt shooting in a contract year.... Didn't impact winning. I wouldn't want to give him 30 million and nobody has any money left
IF Karnišovas hasany brain left, he has to low ball Giddey. I know he is one of their main assets, but it is asinine how GMs turn assets into negative assets just by not wanting to lose an asset. We saw Giddey in a play in, dude can not play any defense, if you give him 30 mil a year, Bulls fans I know will be so freaking mad.
wirhout going to far, because ruining the relationship isn't smart, either.
They need to understand who they bidding against, which is not many. Too many GMS outbid while bidding against themselves. That front office made too many bad moves already, they need to smarten up for once. I like Giddey, I was one of his last believers back in 2024 season, but guy needs to bed be honest with himself.
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TrueFan420 wrote:Dominator83 wrote:GIMME_DATT wrote:Nobody has any money
Yep. All about the leverage! His only leverage is to sign the QO and try again next year. There's no money out there so Bulls are right to hold firm presumably around 25 per. Giddey is no sure thing. He looked really good post ASB, but there's no guarantee that carries over. And if it doesn't and he reverts back to pre-ASB Giddey, then even $25 per will be a disasterous contract
Money won’t be there next year either. The apron rules are set, you can only really pay 2 people then everyone else needs to be decent contracts. They’d be better offer taking 60 over 3 years with player option for year 3 because they haven’t shown they can be THE GUY. This gets them fair money now, an easy out if they develop further or a safety of an extra year of good pay if they don’t.
The Bulls and Nets don’t need to offer 20 mill a year.. neither player has a market.
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Ryoga Hibiki wrote:UcanUwill wrote:M2J wrote:
Not a great defender. Had 1 year of his 3pt shooting in a contract year.... Didn't impact winning. I wouldn't want to give him 30 million and nobody has any money left
IF Karnišovas hasany brain left, he has to low ball Giddey. I know he is one of their main assets, but it is asinine how GMs turn assets into negative assets just by not wanting to lose an asset. We saw Giddey in a play in, dude can not play any defense, if you give him 30 mil a year, Bulls fans I know will be so freaking mad.
wirhout going to far, because ruining the relationship isn't smart, either.
That's what representatives are for. His agent sees the market
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The music stops and somebody doesn't have a chair is as much the nature of a child's game as it is in business sometimes. They may have to take the long way. Malik Monk comes to mind.
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M2J wrote:Ryoga Hibiki wrote:UcanUwill wrote:
IF Karnišovas hasany brain left, he has to low ball Giddey. I know he is one of their main assets, but it is asinine how GMs turn assets into negative assets just by not wanting to lose an asset. We saw Giddey in a play in, dude can not play any defense, if you give him 30 mil a year, Bulls fans I know will be so freaking mad.
wirhout going to far, because ruining the relationship isn't smart, either.
That's what representatives are for. His agent sees the market
Obviously not Kuminga's agent when he was offered $30mil/yr last off season.
And then there was "the agents are not so smart" in Noel. Remember him. From generational wealth offered to out of the league.
That is the case with not signing what is on the table.
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Where is Cam24Thomas when you need her?
'Cos it's easier to try
Than to prove it can't be done
Than to prove it can't be done
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Bulls' fan here-big believer in Giddey (wasn't first half of the year, but I think he's legit)
I would hope we can get him for 5 years and less than $30 million/year
I would hope we can get him for 5 years and less than $30 million/year
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Cam is a Lou Williams, Giddey...he's going to have to do it again to prove he's really a fringe star.
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There is no market for Kuminga either. It’s almost as if the market wants players who are good.
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