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Self explanatory.
Without going too far back:

1) MCW
2) Tyreke Evans
3) Malcolm Brogdon
4) Mike Miller
5) Damon Stoudamire

HM Andrew Wiggins

Don Meineke, Ernie DiGregorio, and MCW are the true bottom 3.

Ryoga Hibiki wrote:Self explanatory.
Without going too far back:

1) MCW
2) Tyreke Evans
3) Malcolm Brogdon
4) Mike Miller
5) Damon Stoudamire

HM Andrew Wiggins

MCW and Miller were a part of historically bad draft classes and were kind of the result of that. Brogdon was a 2nd round pick and overachieved big time by winning ROY so I won't hold injuries against him

Evans' career was cut very short by his own doing so his case has got to be the worst

Damon was on such a great path in Toronto but he just couldn't get over not wanting to be in Canada. I think if he allowed himself to remain there his career would've been way more successful

Id say Emeka Okafor should be number 2 on that list. Damon Stoudemire and Mike Miller had a solid careers

PlatinumState wrote:Id say Emeka Okafor should be number 2 on that list. Damon Stoudemire and Mike Miller had a solid careers

Injuries kind of cut him apart. But yeah, Damon had a decent career. Especially for a little dude.

Surprised there isn't a better answer than the ones provided, seems like ROY's in the NBA have by and large had decent careers.

tsherkin wrote:

PlatinumState wrote:Id say Emeka Okafor should be number 2 on that list. Damon Stoudemire and Mike Miller had a solid careers

Injuries kind of cut him apart. But yeah, Damon had a decent career. Especially for a little dude.

Mighty Mouse was a baller.

Michael Carter-Williams had the best NBA debut of all those players.

Unfortunately it was the best game of his career.

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tsherkin wrote:

PlatinumState wrote:Id say Emeka Okafor should be number 2 on that list. Damon Stoudemire and Mike Miller had a solid careers

Injuries kind of cut him apart. But yeah, Damon had a decent career. Especially for a little dude.

Mighty Mouse was a baller.

I liked him more once he was in Portland than when he was shooting too much with us, heh.

By the stats Woody Sauldsberry is up there. Career negative 10.7 WS. But 50's and he was named an allstar.

Groza is a fun one. 2 first team all NBA's inluding the highest WS ever for a rookie. But gambling lead him to being only in the league 2 years.

But bottom line I think the first 15 years of the league is where you'll find the real stinkers.

Tyreke and Brogdan have probably had better careers than Ben Simmons.

I liked Damon Stoudamire, I thought he was great.

Weird to see Damon Stoudamire here who had a pretty long career and had some good years with Toronto and Portland?

For a 5'10 PG he sure did have a pretty successful career.

tsherkin wrote:

PlatinumState wrote:Id say Emeka Okafor should be number 2 on that list. Damon Stoudemire and Mike Miller had a solid careers

Injuries kind of cut him apart. But yeah, Damon had a decent career. Especially for a little dude.

Okafor? I don't think it was just injuries. He just never lived up to the hype. He was an undersized role-player at his best.

realball wrote:Okafor? I don't think it was just injuries. He just never lived up to the hype. He was an undersized role-player at his best.

I mean, there's also that, but he would have carved out a longer career if his back didn't take him apart. He fell apart in a hurry after 2011, and it wasn't late enough in the game that it was the pace and spacing causing him issues. He was a good rebounder, he was a solid shotblocker, but he blew chunks at the line and just couldn't be leaned on as any kind of volume scorer.

Mike Miller got two rings as a key player off the bench, I don't think that's too bad

tsherkin wrote:

realball wrote:Okafor? I don't think it was just injuries. He just never lived up to the hype. He was an undersized role-player at his best.

I mean, there's also that, but he would have carved out a longer career if his back didn't take him apart. He fell apart in a hurry after 2011, and it wasn't late enough in the game that it was the pace and spacing causing him issues. He was a good rebounder, he was a solid shotblocker, but he blew chunks at the line and just couldn't be leaned on as any kind of volume scorer.

Just saying, even if he kept playing for another decade, he would still be one of the most disappointing ROYs ever. He was a solid double-double kind of big man, but still just an average starter at best.

WiggOuts wrote:MCW and Miller were a part of historically bad draft classes and were kind of the result of that.

I don't get it. In MCW's case, it has nothing to with his draft class. If anything, MCW's rookie season numbers are on par with other ROY winners. In his first ever NBA game, he got 22-7-12 with 9 steals... And he would have be in top 3 in ROY in almost every season in the last few decades.

The thing is, for whatever reason, he was somehow able to do worse every following year.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/cartemi01.html

By WS from 1980-1981 to 2017-2018:

1. MCW 6.6
2. Ralph Sampson 20.1
3. Darrell Griffin 22.0
4. Tyreke 28.4
5. Brogdon 33.4
6. Ben Simmons 35.4
7. Brandon Roy 37.4
8. Chuck Person 38.9
9. DRose 44.6
10. Emeka Okafor 45.3

I believe everyone else had over 50 WS. ROY in the 90s meant you were a legend.

madskillz8 wrote:

WiggOuts wrote:MCW and Miller were a part of historically bad draft classes and were kind of the result of that.

I don't get it. In MCW's case, it has nothing to with his draft class. If anything, MCW's rookie season numbers are on par with other ROY winners. In his first ever NBA game, he got 22-7-12 with 9 steals... And he would have be in top 3 in ROY in almost every season in the last few decades.

The thing is, for whatever reason, he was somehow able to do worse every following year.

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/c/cartemi01.html

His numbers were good, but was he good? This phenomenon, where guys best season is his rookie season happens quite often, especially when player ends up on a trash team. Flynn, Morrison, Jahlil Okafor, Emeka Okafor, MCW, all these guys had best numbers as rookies, but it was because their teams fed them minutes and touches, not like they had anything better to do. After a year or so, people realize guys aren't that good, or they have new rookie in town, and they stop feeding these guys touches and they just fall off hard.