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I just wanted to shed some appreciation to Draymond Green. Alot of casuals throw shade on the guy calling him the king of triple singles, how he landed in a perfect environment, and he wouldn't be a hall of famer without Curry. While Draymond 100% benefits playing with Curry + The Warriors, they benefit immensely from him as well. Amazing at setting screens, a top tier playmaker, and the best defender in his generation.

Ive compiled the following to show just how impactful Draymond was and still is. His impact truly does go beyond the stats. This is in no way putting down Curry (This could be applied to anyone who played with Draymond), in my eyes hes the best point guard of all time, this is moreso shedding light onto how great Draymond is for those fans who think hes a byproduct of Curry, and The Warriors. Ive broken down Curry's stats into a PER36 format with his efficiency. It was crazy to me that there was only one season where Curry was more efficient with Draymond off. Its even crazier when you look at Draymond's impact in the playoffs.

14/15
Draymond On
25.9/4.7/8.9
63.9% True Shooting

Draymond Off
27.1/4.6/7.0
62.1% True Shooting

15/16
Draymond On
31.5/5.7/7.0
67.6% True Shooting

Draymond Off
33.7/4.1/7.1
59.0% True Shooting

16/17
Draymond On
27.2/4.7/7.0
63.6% True Shooting

Draymond Off
27.7/5.1/7.6
58.7% True Shooting

17/18
Draymond On
28.7/5.3/7.1
67.9% True Shooting

Draymond Off
31.9/6.7/6.3
65.8% True Shooting

18/19
Draymond On
28.4/5.5/5.5
66.0% True Shooting

Draymond Off
30.4/6.1/5.7
58.4% True Shooting

19/20
Curry injured, he only played 5 games. Lets use DLO as an example as he was their leading scorer.

Draymond On
25.9/4.4/6.2
54.5% True Shooting

Draymond Off
27.3/3.8/7.8
56.8% True Shooting

20/21
Draymond On
34.1/5.9/6.0
68.3% True Shooting

Draymond Off
32.1/5.4/6.3
56.8% True Shooting

21/22
Draymond On
27.4/5.9/6.1
58.6% True Shooting

Draymond Off
26.1/5.2/6.9
61.1% True Shooting

22/23
Draymond On
29.8/6.3/6.6
67.3% True Shooting

Draymond Off
32.5/6.4/6.4
61.9% True Shooting

23/24
Draymond On
31.1/5.1/5.5
64.5% True Shooting

Draymond Off
26.8/4.7/5.7
58.0% True Shooting

24/25
Draymond On
28.3/5.4/6.4
65.3% True Shooting

Draymond Off
26.1/4.2/7.2
56.1% True Shooting

Curry from 2015 to 2025 Total - Regular Season

Draymond On
29.3/5.4/6.8
65.6% True Shooting

Draymond Off
28.2/5.3/6.6
59.3% True Shooting

Curry 2015 to 2025 Total - Playoffs

Draymond On
26.7/5.6/5.8
62.0% True Shooting

Draymond Off
27.0/5.1/5.6
58.2% True Shooting

Yeah I hated how good he was/is, dirty tricks and all, you just knew he was gonna make your teams life hell, and well you gotta respect that. For new, green behind the ears players, especially those defense minded, would do well to emulate his game. But even in NBA terms he’s almost a unicorn cause he’s so physically gifted as well with that absurd reach with that low center of gravity, so he made the most of his gifts. Ridiculous Detroit motor to help it all drive home too, so yeah, props.

Draymond Green certainly gives the Warriors that extra punch they need to stand a fighter's chance. Adding a level of calm and serenity to the roster, some have attributed his laid back persona to his frequent travels to Australia, as over the years Green has developed a reputation of kicking it down under.

The flagrant disregard for Green's contributions to making the game not only more entertaining, but also more wholesome and for the whole family to enjoy, has got to stop!

If he were drafted by any other team in the league he wouldn’t be considered anywhere near the hall of fame. He’s a good role player. Wow what a surprise, a good role player makes a superstar better. So what? There’s a million guys who can, would, and do make Steph a better player.

Draymond is a role player who landed in the perfect situation and has cost the warriors more titles than he’s won them. He drove Kevin Durant and Jordan Poole outta town which you could reasonably argue cost the warriors a couple rings. His suspension in the 2016 finals also potentially cost them another title. But all of this is as much Kerr’s fault as it is Draymond’s because Kerr is a weak person who’s terrified of being a leader, which sometimes requires calling out misbehaving individuals like Draymond instead of looking the other way and pretending nothing happened. Kerr cannot lead, which is why he’ll never be considered an all time great coach. He fumbled the bag and allowed Draymond to **** up what should’ve been the greatest dynasty in NBA history. They could’ve won like 7 titles IN THE MODERN ERA. Think about how insane that is. But Draymond’s ego and the fact that Kerr is 100% organic pasture raised milquetoast resulted in them grossly underachieving.

So no, Draymond is not under appreciated. If anything he is wildly over appreciated.

No. Green is vastly overrated, mainly by folks who are data nerds and love advanced stats. Green deserves lots of credit for his pivotal role on G State's championship teams, but people have gone too far with the praise for role players.

If he was a teams best player, that team would have gone absolutely nowhere

Underrated as perhaps the best testicle striker in professional sports.

He's a member of the Green team

Ricky Green / Jalen Green / Si Green
Danny Green / Willie Green / Josh Green
Johnny Green / Gerald Green / Javonte Green
Draymond Green / Jeff Green / JaMychal Green
A.C. Green / Mike Green / Sidney Green

LeBronSpaghetti wrote:If he were drafted by any other team in the league he wouldn’t be considered anywhere near the hall of fame. He’s a good role player. Wow what a surprise, a good role player makes a superstar better. So what? There’s a million guys who can, would, and do make Steph a better player.

Draymond is a role player who landed in the perfect situation and has cost the warriors more titles than he’s won them. He drove Kevin Durant and Jordan Poole outta town which you could reasonably argue cost the warriors a couple rings. His suspension in the 2016 finals also potentially cost them another title. But all of this is as much Kerr’s fault as it is Draymond’s because Kerr is a weak person who’s terrified of being a leader, which sometimes requires calling out misbehaving individuals like Draymond instead of looking the other way and pretending nothing happened. Kerr cannot lead, which is why he’ll never be considered an all time great coach. He fumbled the bag and allowed Draymond to **** up what should’ve been the greatest dynasty in NBA history. They could’ve won like 7 titles IN THE MODERN ERA. Think about how insane that is. But Draymond’s ego and the fact that Kerr is 100% organic pasture raised milquetoast resulted in them grossly underachieving.

So no, Draymond is not under appreciated. If anything he is wildly over appreciated.

Draymond is the single best defensive player of the pace-and-space era. Oh, and he’s an elite passer who can run the point and free up Steph to do his thing.

Acting like he’s just another good role player is insane. This guy was the second best player on a team that won 73 games.

Dominator83 wrote:If he was a teams best player, that team would have gone absolutely nowhere

Good thing NBA basketball is 5x5

Dominator83 wrote:If he was a teams best player, that team would have gone absolutely nowhere

Do you consider him a top 100 player of all time?

I truly do believe Draymond was an amazing player at his peak but I’m totally fine with people calling him an overrated glorified role player, because of how much of an insufferable **** prick he is. He’s one of those guys who would be universally loved/respected for his game if he wasn’t such an obnoxious dick.

Heavy backpack for 30 and a violent sociopath who should have been banned from the league years ago. Adam Silver is permanently tarnished due to his enabling of Green.

Draymond is a luxury good.

Almost useless on a bad team, probably worse than that because he'd go insane.

But on a good to great team? he's incredible. The idea Curry is the only star he'd fit with is silly. Imagine Dray with guys like Luka, Trey, Dame - great fits. He's the perfect complement to a big scorer, does all the dirty work and can offload some ball handling duties. He's done an amazing job as a small ball center, better than he could be expected to do.

And I think he's fairly rated since everybody has gotten huge doses of him due to the Curry era Warriors visibility.

azcatz11 wrote:

Dominator83 wrote:If he was a teams best player, that team would have gone absolutely nowhere

Do you consider him a top 100 player of all time?

Easily.

Mr Puddles wrote:Draymond Green certainly gives the Warriors that extra punch they need to stand a fighter's chance. Adding a level of calm and serenity to the roster, some have attributed his laid back persona to his frequent travels to Australia, as over the years Green has developed a reputation of kicking it down under.

The flagrant disregard for Green's contributions to making the game not only more entertaining, but also more wholesome and for the whole family to enjoy, has got to stop!

Very flagrant. A suplex of disrespect.

Yuri Vaultin wrote:Underrated as perhaps the best testicle striker in professional sports.

Maybe kicker but CP3 takes umbrage.

azcatz11 wrote:

Dominator83 wrote:If he was a teams best player, that team would have gone absolutely nowhere

Do you consider him a top 100 player of all time?

He might be top 50 tbh

I think he’s every bit as good as someone like Scottie Pippen (even better defensively), but he doesn’t get the love due to his antics.

It makes zero sense to say the best defender of a generation would be “useless” on another team. Nobody says this about other ATG defenders. And that’s without even mentioning all the other aspects that Draymond excels at.

The High Cyde wrote:Yeah I hated how good he was/is, dirty tricks and all, you just knew he was gonna make your teams life hell, and well you gotta respect that. For new, green behind the ears players, especially those defense minded, would do well to emulate his game. But even in NBA terms he’s almost a unicorn cause he’s so physically gifted as well with that absurd reach with that low center of gravity, so he made the most of his gifts. Ridiculous Detroit motor to help it all drive home too, so yeah, props.

Never really thought about it, but it is pretty fitting that he’s a michigan guy, huh?

LeBronSpaghetti wrote:If he were drafted by any other team in the league he wouldn’t be considered anywhere near the hall of fame. He’s a good role player. Wow what a surprise, a good role player makes a superstar better. So what? There’s a million guys who can, would, and do make Steph a better player.

Draymond is a role player who landed in the perfect situation and has cost the warriors more titles than he’s won them. He drove Kevin Durant and Jordan Poole outta town which you could reasonably argue cost the warriors a couple rings. His suspension in the 2016 finals also potentially cost them another title. But all of this is as much Kerr’s fault as it is Draymond’s because Kerr is a weak person who’s terrified of being a leader, which sometimes requires calling out misbehaving individuals like Draymond instead of looking the other way and pretending nothing happened. Kerr cannot lead, which is why he’ll never be considered an all time great coach. He fumbled the bag and allowed Draymond to **** up what should’ve been the greatest dynasty in NBA history. They could’ve won like 7 titles IN THE MODERN ERA. Think about how insane that is. But Draymond’s ego and the fact that Kerr is 100% organic pasture raised milquetoast resulted in them grossly underachieving.

So no, Draymond is not under appreciated. If anything he is wildly over appreciated.

Draymond has the best combination of scoring and defense in NBA history. He's an all around superstar. The only thing he's not elite at is scoring. And with his weakest skill, scoring, he had the best Game 7 in NBA history: 32 points on .933 TS%. Only 7 players in NBA history have scored more in a Game 7 of the NBA Finals and only 2 since the '60s. The next most efficient game of the players who scored more is LeBron scoring 37 points on .698 TS% in 2013.

If anything, someone like KD is more of a "role player" since the only skill he's really elite at is scoring. If Draymond had got drafted by the Clippers or the Rockets instead of the Warriors, there's a good chance that CP3 or Harden would be multi-time champions and Steph would be known as a ringless choker who couldn't get it done in the playoffs.