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How good will this elevate him? I can't imagine working out with Hakeem and Garnett will yield no results...He's definitely going to improve tremendously. Hopefully he stops playing on the perimeter like a guard, which annoys us Spurs fans!

KG looks like he could still play. Maybe not in the NBA but in a 2nd tier foreign league

Who is Wemby playing tag in the sand with?

If Wemby is healthy he's an MVP caliber player...the question is can he stay healthy.

TheGeneral99 wrote:If Wemby is healthy he's an MVP caliber player...the question is can he stay healthy.

He's been pretty healthy throughout his career. The blood clot was a freak, non-basketball injury. He was fully cleared awhile ago and has been practicing in scrimmages with the team. He'll be fine imo

Bornstellar wrote:

TheGeneral99 wrote:If Wemby is healthy he's an MVP caliber player...the question is can he stay healthy.

He's been pretty healthy throughout his career. The blood clot was a freak, non-basketball injury. He was fully cleared awhile ago and has been practicing in scrimmages with the team. He'll be fine imo

He missed almost 3 months of play in 2021 due to injury and missed the 2nd of his 2022 season due to injury. He was relatively healthy as a rookie and yes you are correct the clots are a non-basketball injury.

Obviously the concern is someone being that tall historically has issues staying healthy, but we've never seen somebody that height with that amount of athleticism and coordination, so hopefully Wemby can be the exception to the norm.

Village Idiot wrote:KG looks like he could still play. Maybe not in the NBA but in a 2nd tier foreign league

Who is Wemby playing tag in the sand with?

Crazy, I just looked online and saw that KG is 49 years old...time flies.

For some reason I thought he was early to mid-40s.

Damn we are getting old.

MVP and DPOY in one season. Possible multiple times. Only thing keeping him from it will be butthurt writers who will try to keep him off GOAT discussions by voting for someone else.

TheGeneral99 wrote:

Bornstellar wrote:

TheGeneral99 wrote:If Wemby is healthy he's an MVP caliber player...the question is can he stay healthy.

He's been pretty healthy throughout his career. The blood clot was a freak, non-basketball injury. He was fully cleared awhile ago and has been practicing in scrimmages with the team. He'll be fine imo

He missed almost 3 months of play in 2021 due to injury and missed the 2nd of his 2022 season due to injury. He was relatively healthy as a rookie and yes you are correct the clots are a non-basketball injury.

Obviously the concern is someone being that tall historically has issues staying healthy, but we've never seen somebody that height with that amount of athleticism and coordination, so hopefully Wemby can be the exception to the norm.

You're talking about injuries as a 16-17 year old? Not worried at all about that. Kid is still growing into his body and even more so back then.

The thread title made me think he was bossing it in the euro league.

Bornstellar wrote:

TheGeneral99 wrote:

Bornstellar wrote:He's been pretty healthy throughout his career. The blood clot was a freak, non-basketball injury. He was fully cleared awhile ago and has been practicing in scrimmages with the team. He'll be fine imo

He missed almost 3 months of play in 2021 due to injury and missed the 2nd of his 2022 season due to injury. He was relatively healthy as a rookie and yes you are correct the clots are a non-basketball injury.

Obviously the concern is someone being that tall historically has issues staying healthy, but we've never seen somebody that height with that amount of athleticism and coordination, so hopefully Wemby can be the exception to the norm.

You're talking about injuries as a 16-17 year old? Not worried at all about that. Kid is still growing into his body and even more so back then.

Do you not remember being 16-17 years old?

I NEVER got hurt when I was that age. Very few people I knew did either (outside breaking bones). And the ones I did continued to have injuries their entire life. Already having injuries and missing multiple months as a teenager is actually a huge red flag.

YogurtProducer wrote:

Bornstellar wrote:

TheGeneral99 wrote:
He missed almost 3 months of play in 2021 due to injury and missed the 2nd of his 2022 season due to injury. He was relatively healthy as a rookie and yes you are correct the clots are a non-basketball injury.

Obviously the concern is someone being that tall historically has issues staying healthy, but we've never seen somebody that height with that amount of athleticism and coordination, so hopefully Wemby can be the exception to the norm.

You're talking about injuries as a 16-17 year old? Not worried at all about that. Kid is still growing into his body and even more so back then.

Do you not remember being 16-17 years old?

I NEVER got hurt when I was that age. Very few people I knew did either (outside breaking bones). And the ones I did continued to have injuries their entire life. Already having injuries and missing multiple months as a teenager is actually a huge red flag.

Uhh were you a professional athlete at that age? No? Were these people you knew also professional athletes at that age? No? didn't think so. Your anecdotal evidence means very little, tbh

I played basketball a lot at that age and sprained my ankles and hurt my knee multiple times. So I don't know what kind of experience you had as a kid but if you play sports a lot, especially as a pro (and especially considering Wemby's body/development) I don't think having some injuries is a big deal. Plenty of dudes in the NBA had major injuries in high school and turned out fine. As far as these major injuries he experienced in 2021 and 2022 - 2021 was two separate injuries, he broke a finger in Nov 2021 and then had a shoulder contusion the following month. And the injury in 2022 was a pulled muscle in his back. None of those are major injuries and given he was an up and coming prodigy, he has always been very careful about managing injuries and making sure he is 100% right before getting back on the court. And again, this is a 16-17 year old kid with a freakish and fast-developing body. Nothing there warrants concern

I swear, I feel like you people want Wemby to fail. Every time he gets brought up, it's always "if he's healthy," "health permitting," "if he doesn't get injured," etc etc when he hasn't had any real injury concerns. This kid isn't Joel Embiid. He played 71 games in his rookie year (could have played more but SA always held him out longer than needed) and was pretty healthy last season until the blood clot. Nothing he has done in the NBA would lead one to believe he is injury prone. Yet he gets talked about like he's Joel Embiid and a ticking time bomb. I'm tired of it.

chuck_wagon44 wrote:
How good will this elevate him? I can't imagine working out with Hakeem and Garnett will yield no results...He's definitely going to improve tremendously. Hopefully he stops playing on the perimeter like a guard, which annoys us Spurs fans!

Playing with KG isn't going to make him less like a guard. And his body is NEVER going to be for the post...

Bornstellar wrote:Uhh were you a professional athlete at that age? No? Were these people you knew also professional athletes at that age? No? didn't think so. Your anecdotal evidence means very little, tbh

I was an athlete who was playing fairly high level football and was surrounded by athletes in a number of sports. Hockey, basketball, and football mostly. Teenagers bodies are very very resilient and if you have multiple injuries in those years it is not a good sign.

Plenty of dudes in the NBA had major injuries in high school and turned out fine.

Plenty of dudes also continue to have major injuries.

And again, this is a 16-17 year old kid with a freakish and fast-developing body. Nothing there warrants concern

The freakish body is exactly what warrants the concern. There is a reason most guys that tall have injury issues.

I swear, I feel like you people want Wemby to fail.

I love Wemby. Differing opinions from yours don't automatically equal hatred for your favorite players.

Every time he gets brought up, it's always "if he's healthy," "health permitting," "if he doesn't get injured," etc etc when he hasn't had any real injury concerns. This kid isn't Joel Embiid. He played 71 games in his rookie year (could have played more but SA always held him out longer than needed) and was pretty healthy last season until the blood clot. Nothing he has done in the NBA would lead one to believe he is injury prone. Yet he gets talked about like he's Joel Embiid and a ticking time bomb. I'm tired of it.

Nothing would lead you to believe it... if you just ignore the time he missed multiple times in the last half decade.

As far as I can tell, Wemby had played 117 games in his career, and missed 47. Missing 30% of your total games in your career isn't nothing, and there is reason to be skeptical a 7'3+ guy might have injury concerns. It just comes with the territory of being.... 7'3".

Like, I am sorry people offend you on the topic, but until there is a guy who plays in the NBA at 7'3" and DOESN'T have injury concerns his entire career, there is going to be talk of it.

YogurtProducer wrote:

Bornstellar wrote:Uhh were you a professional athlete at that age? No? Were these people you knew also professional athletes at that age? No? didn't think so. Your anecdotal evidence means very little, tbh

I was an athlete who was playing fairly high level football and was surrounded by athletes in a number of sports. Hockey, basketball, and football mostly. Teenagers bodies are very very resilient and if you have multiple injuries in those years it is not a good sign.

Plenty of dudes in the NBA had major injuries in high school and turned out fine.

Plenty of dudes also continue to have major injuries.

And again, this is a 16-17 year old kid with a freakish and fast-developing body. Nothing there warrants concern

The freakish body is exactly what warrants the concern. There is a reason most guys that tall have injury issues.

I swear, I feel like you people want Wemby to fail.

I love Wemby. Differing opinions from yours don't automatically equal hatred for your favorite players.

Every time he gets brought up, it's always "if he's healthy," "health permitting," "if he doesn't get injured," etc etc when he hasn't had any real injury concerns. This kid isn't Joel Embiid. He played 71 games in his rookie year (could have played more but SA always held him out longer than needed) and was pretty healthy last season until the blood clot. Nothing he has done in the NBA would lead one to believe he is injury prone. Yet he gets talked about like he's Joel Embiid and a ticking time bomb. I'm tired of it.

Nothing would lead you to believe it... if you just ignore the time he missed multiple times in the last half decade.

As far as I can tell, Wemby had played 117 games in his career, and missed 47. Missing 30% of your total games in your career isn't nothing, and there is reason to be skeptical a 7'3+ guy might have injury concerns. It just comes with the territory of being.... 7'3".

Like, I am sorry people offend you on the topic, but until there is a guy who plays in the NBA at 7'3" and DOESN'T have injury concerns his entire career, there is going to be talk of it.

Ok, so you weren't a professional athlete and you were just playing high school sports, cool. I didn't think otherwise. I doubt anyone you played with had a body like Wemby's growing up either. Thinking your experience playing high school level sports is comparable or in any way relevant to a 7 foot teenager playing professional basketball is

But whatever man. Using a blood clot incident and saying "He missed 40% of his career games due to injury" is silly when aside from a NON-BASEKTBALL INJURY he has been pretty durable IN THE NBA thus far. You can say whatever you want, but until he is actually getting sidelined with actual basketball injuries then the point is moot. Like, Chet Holmgren has missed waaaay more time in the NBA yet I don't constantly hear people saying 'if he's healthy" or "barring health" when discussing him, and he's only a couple inches shorter.

And again, those injuries he had in 2021/2022 were not serious or reoccuring, and he most definitely sat out longer than needed because he had a guaranteed future in the NBA and there was no point in rushing back to play. This should be pretty obvious, but sure let's look at a couple minor injuries from when he was 16-17 as a justification as to why you think he's an injury risk then by all means, believe whatever you want. But I'm not going to put much stock into the opinion of someone who thinks their anecdotal evidence playing high school sports is somehow remotely comparable or relevant to Wembanyama's pre-NBA years

Bornstellar wrote:

YogurtProducer wrote:

Bornstellar wrote:You're talking about injuries as a 16-17 year old? Not worried at all about that. Kid is still growing into his body and even more so back then.

Do you not remember being 16-17 years old?

I NEVER got hurt when I was that age. Very few people I knew did either (outside breaking bones). And the ones I did continued to have injuries their entire life. Already having injuries and missing multiple months as a teenager is actually a huge red flag.

Uhh were you a professional athlete at that age? No? Were these people you knew also professional athletes at that age? No? didn't think so. Your anecdotal evidence means very little, tbh

I played basketball a lot at that age and sprained my ankles and hurt my knee multiple times. So I don't know what kind of experience you had as a kid but if you play sports a lot, especially as a pro (and especially considering Wemby's body/development) I don't think having some injuries is a big deal. Plenty of dudes in the NBA had major injuries in high school and turned out fine. As far as these major injuries he experienced in 2021 and 2022 - 2021 was two separate injuries, he broke a finger in Nov 2021 and then had a shoulder contusion the following month. And the injury in 2022 was a pulled muscle in his back. None of those are major injuries and given he was an up and coming prodigy, he has always been very careful about managing injuries and making sure he is 100% right before getting back on the court. And again, this is a 16-17 year old kid with a freakish and fast-developing body. Nothing there warrants concern

I swear, I feel like you people want Wemby to fail. Every time he gets brought up, it's always "if he's healthy," "health permitting," "if he doesn't get injured," etc etc when he hasn't had any real injury concerns. This kid isn't Joel Embiid. He played 71 games in his rookie year (could have played more but SA always held him out longer than needed) and was pretty healthy last season until the blood clot. Nothing he has done in the NBA would lead one to believe he is injury prone. Yet he gets talked about like he's Joel Embiid and a ticking time bomb. I'm tired of it.

Listen I hope you are right I just don't understand why you are exceedingly optimistic when history shows that guys that big have injury issues.

Let's hope he stays healthy, but also be reasonable in our expectations.

Hoping the shaolin monks told him to stop playing like a 7 5 shooting guard.

Bornstellar wrote:Ok, so you weren't a professional athlete and you were just playing high school sports, cool. I didn't think otherwise. I doubt anyone you played with had a body like Wemby's growing up either. Thinking your experience playing high school level sports is comparable or in any way relevant to a 7 foot teenager playing professional basketball is

Nope, not at all what I said but good job.

7'3 guys having multiple injuries as teens is not a good sign, no matter how you spin it.

But you are just being combative and defensive and ignoring what people are saying.

It'd be a bit more monumental if he were coming off an mvp/fmvp season like Shai is. Just saying.. that's monumental. I'd like to see him do mvp/fmvp/dpoy but until then this is more like a 'player x looks jacked' type of thread.

TheGeneral99 wrote:

Bornstellar wrote:

YogurtProducer wrote:Do you not remember being 16-17 years old?

I NEVER got hurt when I was that age. Very few people I knew did either (outside breaking bones). And the ones I did continued to have injuries their entire life. Already having injuries and missing multiple months as a teenager is actually a huge red flag.

Uhh were you a professional athlete at that age? No? Were these people you knew also professional athletes at that age? No? didn't think so. Your anecdotal evidence means very little, tbh

I played basketball a lot at that age and sprained my ankles and hurt my knee multiple times. So I don't know what kind of experience you had as a kid but if you play sports a lot, especially as a pro (and especially considering Wemby's body/development) I don't think having some injuries is a big deal. Plenty of dudes in the NBA had major injuries in high school and turned out fine. As far as these major injuries he experienced in 2021 and 2022 - 2021 was two separate injuries, he broke a finger in Nov 2021 and then had a shoulder contusion the following month. And the injury in 2022 was a pulled muscle in his back. None of those are major injuries and given he was an up and coming prodigy, he has always been very careful about managing injuries and making sure he is 100% right before getting back on the court. And again, this is a 16-17 year old kid with a freakish and fast-developing body. Nothing there warrants concern

I swear, I feel like you people want Wemby to fail. Every time he gets brought up, it's always "if he's healthy," "health permitting," "if he doesn't get injured," etc etc when he hasn't had any real injury concerns. This kid isn't Joel Embiid. He played 71 games in his rookie year (could have played more but SA always held him out longer than needed) and was pretty healthy last season until the blood clot. Nothing he has done in the NBA would lead one to believe he is injury prone. Yet he gets talked about like he's Joel Embiid and a ticking time bomb. I'm tired of it.

Listen I hope you are right I just don't understand why you are exceedingly optimistic when history shows that guys that big have injury issues.

Let's hope he stays healthy, but also be reasonable in our expectations.

It's not that I'm exceedingly optimistic, I'm just not going to use past players as an example for Victor. I get the argument, trust me. But for one, there just isn't a large enough sample of dudes his size in NBA history to draw any real conclusions and two, not a single one of them had a body like Wemby nor did they play remotely the same way he does (Sampson maybe aside), and they did not train the same way he has basically his entire life to try to mitigate against injuries. All I'm saying is, blood clot aside, he hasn't had any real basketball injuries in the NBA sans a minor sprained ankle, so until he starts racking up DNPs I'm not going to worry about it

I never trust the tallest players.