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This was 6 days ago. It was just a teaser. Hints at a story on Brunson. He said he may or may not do a story on it. It was interesting nevertheless.
I searched the board for a post, but saw nothing. Was it a joke, or a teaser? Who knows.
Starts at 9:23 mark.

Knicks/Lakers finals that is all. sorry haven't watched vid, just my predictions

wow! so Brunson didn't take a below max contract out of the goodness of his heart and as a sacrifice so the team could add more talent? Understandable if he is instead getting the difference off the Knicks books.

Village Idiot wrote:wow! so Brunson didn't take a below max contract out of the goodness of his heart and as a sacrifice so the team could add more talent? Understandable if he is instead getting the difference off the Knicks books.

His dad being hired out of nowhere was interesting lol

JimmyPlopper wrote:

Village Idiot wrote:wow! so Brunson didn't take a below max contract out of the goodness of his heart and as a sacrifice so the team could add more talent? Understandable if he is instead getting the difference off the Knicks books.

His dad being hired out of nowhere was interesting lol

u$c does it all the time

that's how they landed mobley

Lalouie wrote:

JimmyPlopper wrote:

Village Idiot wrote:wow! so Brunson didn't take a below max contract out of the goodness of his heart and as a sacrifice so the team could add more talent? Understandable if he is instead getting the difference off the Knicks books.

His dad being hired out of nowhere was interesting lol

u$c does it all the time

that's how they landed mobley

I have a degree from USC but you won't find me rooting for them

As i said over past several days, difference between Ballmer and others who did it in past is just Aspiration burning in blaze of glory with $250M fraud and all the files being available to public. And one man who went through it and saw all the fishy crap.

This is *probably* common practice among nba superstars and owners. Heat big 3 also all took paycuts to "play together".
Given how passionate that tool Cuban was in defending Ballmer hints his Dirk team friendly deal was well paid in different fashion.
Kiriljenko in 2013 rejected $10,3M to play for his countryman Prokhorov for $3M, after advocating for him to become owner since 2009.

Would be interesting to know what's the salary of Brunsons father or they aren't THAT stupid

NBA is burning his credibility last 10-15 years or so. Basically since Tim Donaghy was only "mastermind" caught, whole league has been exposed. Very same Tim Donaghy called Scott Fisher 136 times over span of 6 months around investigation. Scott Fisher is still active referee. But, like it was case with NBA' investigation of Kawhi in 2019, nothing was found. Because, like with doping tests, it's never in NBA's best interest to find anything (at least anything more than what is already out ).
Just few years ago we had FTX being sponsor and arena name of nba team. One of worst ponzi schemes of all time


And yet, people think that draft ain't rigged. Because 30 billionaires will really let something as silly as ping pong balls decide faith of a League

Where there's smoke....................

Village Idiot wrote:wow! so Brunson didn't take a below max contract out of the goodness of his heart and as a sacrifice so the team could add more talent? Understandable if he is instead getting the difference off the Knicks books.

he's not talking about the extension.
his FA contract was actually considered an overpay, by some

Pablo Torres is about to become the NBA's boogeyman if he keeps researching contracts.

pepe1991 wrote:As i said over past several days, difference between Ballmer and others who did it in past is just Aspiration burning in blaze of glory with $250M fraud and all the files being available to public. And one man who went through it and saw all the fishy crap.

This is *probably* common practice among nba superstars and owners. Heat big 3 also all took paycuts to "play together".
Given how passionate that tool Cuban was in defending Ballmer hints his Dirk team friendly deal was well paid in different fashion.
Kiriljenko in 2013 rejected $10,3M to play for his countryman Prokhorov for $3M, after advocating for him to become owner since 2009.

Would be interesting to know what's the salary of Brunsons father or they aren't THAT stupid

NBA is burning his credibility last 10-15 years or so. Basically since Tim Donaghy was only "mastermind" caught, whole league has been exposed. Very same Tim Donaghy called Scott Fisher 136 times over span of 6 months around investigation. Scott Fisher is still active referee. But, like it was case with NBA' investigation of Kawhi in 2019, nothing was found. Because, like with doping tests, it's never in NBA's best interest to find anything (at least anything more than what is already out ).
Just few years ago we had FTX being sponsor and arena name of nba team. One of worst ponzi schemes of all time


And yet, people think that draft ain't rigged. Because 30 billionaires will really let something as silly as ping pong balls decide faith of a League

Interestingly enough, owners doing underhanded deals to get players on their team and to increase their chance of winning is actually arguing against the idea that all 30 owners would be together on letting someone else just get top draft picks and actually is more supportive if them being like let the ping pong balls roll, because if I'm not getting it, I'm not letting the other guy get it. Anyone actually think a competitive guy like Ballmer who we are now finding out would even go to these lengths to get what he wants would be the type of person to agree to someone else getting a benefit when he doesn't need the league's money? A guy like Ballmer isn't like those owners who are happy to receive luxury tax payments and just make a profit, so this actually argues the opposite way.

If the story was about owners colluding to get certain players to certain teams during free agency, vs trying to get for themselves, it would better support that.

Sounded to me like he's saying he didn't look into it at all, and maybe, and just that other people want to and have an axe to grind there.

og15 wrote:

pepe1991 wrote:As i said over past several days, difference between Ballmer and others who did it in past is just Aspiration burning in blaze of glory with $250M fraud and all the files being available to public. And one man who went through it and saw all the fishy crap.

This is *probably* common practice among nba superstars and owners. Heat big 3 also all took paycuts to "play together".
Given how passionate that tool Cuban was in defending Ballmer hints his Dirk team friendly deal was well paid in different fashion.
Kiriljenko in 2013 rejected $10,3M to play for his countryman Prokhorov for $3M, after advocating for him to become owner since 2009.

Would be interesting to know what's the salary of Brunsons father or they aren't THAT stupid

NBA is burning his credibility last 10-15 years or so. Basically since Tim Donaghy was only "mastermind" caught, whole league has been exposed. Very same Tim Donaghy called Scott Fisher 136 times over span of 6 months around investigation. Scott Fisher is still active referee. But, like it was case with NBA' investigation of Kawhi in 2019, nothing was found. Because, like with doping tests, it's never in NBA's best interest to find anything (at least anything more than what is already out ).
Just few years ago we had FTX being sponsor and arena name of nba team. One of worst ponzi schemes of all time


And yet, people think that draft ain't rigged. Because 30 billionaires will really let something as silly as ping pong balls decide faith of a League

Interestingly enough, owners doing underhanded deals to get players on their team and to increase their chance of winning is actually arguing against the idea that all 30 owners would be together on letting someone else just get top draft picks and actually is more supportive if them being like let the ping pong balls roll, because if I'm not getting it, I'm not letting the other guy get it. Anyone actually think a competitive guy like Ballmer who we are now finding out would even go to these lengths to get what he wants would be the type of person to agree to someone else getting a benefit when he doesn't need the league's money? A guy like Ballmer isn't like those owners who are happy to receive luxury tax payments and just make a profit, so this actually argues the opposite way.

If the story was about owners colluding to get certain players to certain teams during free agency, vs trying to get for themselves, it would better support that.

Your assumption is that owners care about winning. In reality, they don't. You have so many teams who's only purpose is self-sustainability that brings profit. So many teams will go out of their ways just to avoid paying luxury or come close to aprons. in a league of 30, during entire history of a league, 10 never won title. Than you have i think 9 teams with 1 title. Whole culture of championships boils down to 5 to 6 teams at most. But basically it's just Celtics and Lakers + Duncan & Pop era, Jordan & Jackson era and Kerr & Curry. All other teams are below 4 titles during entire history.



Dan Gilbert history:
2010 - open letter where he promises better future to Cavs
2011- first lottery win- 2,8% probability
2012 - Pelicans without owner win lottery #shocking
2013- Cavs win lottery again (15,6% chance)
2014- Cavs win lottery again -1,70% chance

Lebron returns.


So one Ballmer, who is top 6 richest people in the world, for damn sure has different aspirations (cheating to win title i guess) than one Bulls owner, who's whole family depends on that team, or OKC ownership group back in a day when they refused to pay luxury tax to keep Harden.
Pre Ballmer, Sterling used 12 men roster ( minimum level allowed by league at times) just to save money.

This whole idea of owners keeping team to win titles is marketing stunt and nothing else. When league wasn't doing well in around 2010s, and Pelicans were for sell, nobody wanted to buy them because there was no money to be made. Out of thin air, Pelicans are winning super hyped Anthony Davis. Money he paid for a team is kind a silly from today's POV. $338M.

Mark Cuban was smart enough to pay in crypto

Guy's a weasel out here covering for billionaires. He hears the guillotines being sharpened.

JimmyPlopper wrote:

Village Idiot wrote:wow! so Brunson didn't take a below max contract out of the goodness of his heart and as a sacrifice so the team could add more talent? Understandable if he is instead getting the difference off the Knicks books.

His dad being hired out of nowhere was interesting lol

A coaching job where you are probably working 2000-3000 hours per year is way different than a no-show job where no work is done. The Knicks have plausible deniability, the clippers don’t.

ball_takes23 wrote:

JimmyPlopper wrote:

Village Idiot wrote:wow! so Brunson didn't take a below max contract out of the goodness of his heart and as a sacrifice so the team could add more talent? Understandable if he is instead getting the difference off the Knicks books.

His dad being hired out of nowhere was interesting lol

A coaching job where you are probably working 2000-3000 hours per year is way different than a no-show job where no work is done. The Knicks have plausible deniability, the clippers don’t.

Also, Rick was a Thibs assistant in both Minnesota and Chicago, going back to 2010

It's not like he's just Jalen's dad who we hired for no reason. Thibs didn't hire Rick in 2010 to the Bulls so that in 2022 the Knicks could sign Jalen, and so in 2025 Jalen would extend a year early

Also the idea Jalen would take a $100 million pay cut so his dad could get a job making a few million a year is like, really dumb.

Good. Expose everything.

JimmyPlopper wrote:

Village Idiot wrote:wow! so Brunson didn't take a below max contract out of the goodness of his heart and as a sacrifice so the team could add more talent? Understandable if he is instead getting the difference off the Knicks books.

His dad being hired out of nowhere was interesting lol

His dad played for the Knicks and was an assistant coach on 4 different NBA teams. He had a legit resume, it wasn’t “out of nowhere”.

JimmyPlopper wrote:

Village Idiot wrote:wow! so Brunson didn't take a below max contract out of the goodness of his heart and as a sacrifice so the team could add more talent? Understandable if he is instead getting the difference off the Knicks books.

His dad being hired out of nowhere was interesting lol

I don't think it's that interesting as far as breaking relevant rules--as long as a guy is a plausible legit hire (lots of coaching experience etc), and the compensation is a regular coaching hire amount, you're of any wrongdoing. It's not circumventing the cap in any way, and in general there's no rule against making a place/team more favorable to a potential FA as long as you're not skirting the $ restrictions. No rule against teams signing Giannis' brother or Lebron's kid or Rodman's best friend or whatever.

Plus that happened when Brunson took his first deal with NYK, which seems like it was for the most possible $ he was going to get in UFA. (Dallas had already refused to match etc.)

If they had hired Brunson's dad after he took his weird new discount deal recently, and they had paid him like 5 x's what a coach usually gets paid, and he wasn't actually coaching (or not doing a competent job), then yeah that'd be interesting.

I don't think Brunson got anything for signing, he demanded a below market deal when he was with the Mavs also, he just values security.
The interesting thing here is, if you need a hard evidence smoking gun to assign malice to 7M$/yr no show, discreet endorsement job like ESPN is trying to establish as a given, Rick Brunson can command 10M/yr and if they don't have a signed document from Rose or Dolan saying this is for Jalen extending early and thus less than max no one can say anything.
This is why for any rational person, Clippers deal should not go away quietly.