Is Paul George a future HOF?

[ImmortalD24]

Unless he goes on a crazy Euro run I don't see it.. not even close. Basketball genius Trae Young suggested that in response to Patrick Beverly.

[Mr Puddles]

If Robert Horry is in the conversation due to post season clutchness, then surely Playoff P is a shoe-in.

[Anti Chalmers]

Yes, his accolades is more than enough

[Johnny Firpo]

Sorry, but this is a pretty unnecessary thread. Whether you like him or not, George is a 9-time all-star, 6-time all-NBA, 4-time all-defense selection, and an Olympic champion. Of course he is a hall of famer.

[OrlandoMagic198]

Why bother making a thread? You should have looked up his accolades before making a thread

[Message Boar]

Sorry, but this is a pretty unnecessary thread. Whether you like him or not, George is a 9-time all-star, 6-time all-NBA, 4-time all-defense selection, an an Olympic champion. Of course he is a hall of famer.

This. We may gripe about the low standards of the basketball HoF. But according to those standards, he's easily in. Also young, pre-injury PG(24?) was pretty awesome.

[UcanUwill]

People voting NO are just hating. Guy is a lock.

[-Luke-]

He's a lock. How can four people (currently) say No? It's fine to say to HOF is too easy to make and he shouldn't be in. I also think it's too easy to get in. But as it is, Paul George is a no-brainer.

[KGtabake]

So we had people in here questioning if Manu Ginobili deserves to be in the HoF but they are certain that Paul George belongs.

[Mattatron]

He shouldn't, but probably will be

[ImmortalD24]

Every team he's been on got better as soon as he left. Underwhelming performer. I say no. Let's make the HOF great again by starting with guys like Paul George.

[Rich Michmond]

How many nine time All-Stars are not in the HoF?

[ImmortalD24]

How many nine time All-Stars are not in the HoF?

Larry Froust at 8 will have company. Aldridge has 7 as did Joe Johnson. Those are his peers. Also in 2018 he was a replacement for Demarcus Cousins. So a weak 9.

Also Olympics? Replace him with Caruso and they get better. Gold medals from team USA shouldn't hold much weight IMHO as they're always clear favorites. People still clown LeBron for a Bronze medal (even though others were to blame ie: Duncan).

[Domejandro]

There is no world where Paul George will not be voted in as a Hall of Fame player.

[bkkrh]

How many nine time All-Stars are not in the HoF?

Larry Froust at 8 will have company. Aldridge has 7 as did Joe Johnson. Those are his peers. Also in 2018 he was a replacement for Demarcus Cousins. So a weak 9.

Also Olympics? Replace him with Caruso and they get better. Gold medals from team USA shouldn't hold much weight IMHO as they're always clear favorites. People still clown LeBron for a Bronze medal (even though others were to blame ie: Duncan).

Aldridge isn´t even eligible until next year. Also he made 0 All Defense teams and never an All NBA 1st team.

Joe Johnson made 1 NBA 3rd team and 0 All Defense teams.

Larry Foust is already to silly to comment on.

The comment that any form of Alex Caruso is an improvement over 2016 Paul George is probably the most ridiculous statement I´ve ever seen on this board. Without even factoring in that Caruso was in his last year in College that season.

[doogie_hauser]

He will probably get in but shouldn't imo

[ImmortalD24]

How many nine time All-Stars are not in the HoF?

Larry Froust at 8 will have company. Aldridge has 7 as did Joe Johnson. Those are his peers. Also in 2018 he was a replacement for Demarcus Cousins. So a weak 9.

Also Olympics? Replace him with Caruso and they get better. Gold medals from team USA shouldn't hold much weight IMHO as they're always clear favorites. People still clown LeBron for a Bronze medal (even though others were to blame ie: Duncan).

Aldridge isn´t even eligible until next year. Also he made 0 All Defense teams and never an All NBA 1st team.

Joe Johnson made 1 NBA 3rd team and 0 All Defense teams.

Larry Foust is already to silly to comment on.

The comment that any form of Alex Caruso is an improvement over 2016 Paul George is probably the most ridiculous statement I´ve ever seen on this board. Without even factoring in that Caruso was in his last year in College that season.

Present day Caruso in place of Paul George is what I obviously meant. Do you disagree with that sentiment? Caruso is just a better defender from 1 through 5 and just tough as nails- unlike Paul who's on thr fragile side given the litany of injuries. In a role as a role player it would be more natural to him as it's second nature. Less is more in this instance IMHO.

Also the format changed to 3 forward spots was removed in 2012 which was beneficial for him. (Right when he was ascending) If there was a traditional C spot he would most certainly have less selections.

Further, you talk about Aldridge never making an All-NBA 1st team.. neither has Paul George.

[bkkrh]

Larry Froust at 8 will have company. Aldridge has 7 as did Joe Johnson. Those are his peers. Also in 2018 he was a replacement for Demarcus Cousins. So a weak 9.

Also Olympics? Replace him with Caruso and they get better. Gold medals from team USA shouldn't hold much weight IMHO as they're always clear favorites. People still clown LeBron for a Bronze medal (even though others were to blame ie: Duncan).

Aldridge isn´t even eligible until next year. Also he made 0 All Defense teams and never an All NBA 1st team.

Joe Johnson made 1 NBA 3rd team and 0 All Defense teams.

Larry Foust is already to silly to comment on.

The comment that any form of Alex Caruso is an improvement over 2016 Paul George is probably the most ridiculous statement I´ve ever seen on this board. Without even factoring in that Caruso was in his last year in College that season.

Present day Caruso in place of Paul George is what I obviously meant. Do you disagree with that sentiment? Caruso is just a better defender from 1 through 5 and just tough as nails- unlike Paul who's on thr fragile side given the litany of injuries. In a role as a role player it would be more natural to him as it's second nature. Less is more in this instance IMHO.

Also the format changed to 3 forward spots was removed in 2012 which was beneficial for him. (Right when he was ascending) If there was a traditional C spot he would most certainly have less selections.

Further, you talk about Aldridge never making an All-NBA 1st team.. neither has Paul George.

PG made the All NBA 1st team in 18-19, when he also made the All Defense 1st team and placed 3rd in MVP voting.

He came into the league as a 3&D player and was viewed as one of the best wing defenders before he got a bigger role on the Pacers after a few seasons. Tough to argue who is the better defender in his prime, we definitely need to also understand here that one player pretty much exclusively focuses on defense, while the other is also the primary scoring option and franchise player in his prime years. So in that sense I definitely take PG over Caruso, simply because he brings so much more to the table. It´s like saying Tony Allen would be a better fit than Dwyane Wade since he is a better defender.

Lastly I definitely wouldn´t call Caruso tough as nails, since he struggles with injuries pretty much his whole career and never averaged 30 minutes per game. Just in comparsion, the most games Caruso ever played in one season are 71, Paul George played more games in 7 out of 15 seasons. The most minutes per games Caruso ever had were 28.7, Paul George averaged more minutes in 13 of 15 seasons, the 2 were he averaged less were his rookie season and the year he only played 6 games in total due to injury.

[dhsilv2]

I'm not sure what is more idiotic. The question being asked or the people voting no. Yes a 9x allstar gets in without any issue what so ever. He's as clear a lock as Lebron.

[ImmortalD24]

Aldridge isn´t even eligible until next year. Also he made 0 All Defense teams and never an All NBA 1st team.

Joe Johnson made 1 NBA 3rd team and 0 All Defense teams.

Larry Foust is already to silly to comment on.

The comment that any form of Alex Caruso is an improvement over 2016 Paul George is probably the most ridiculous statement I´ve ever seen on this board. Without even factoring in that Caruso was in his last year in College that season.

Present day Caruso in place of Paul George is what I obviously meant. Do you disagree with that sentiment? Caruso is just a better defender from 1 through 5 and just tough as nails- unlike Paul who's on thr fragile side given the litany of injuries. In a role as a role player it would be more natural to him as it's second nature. Less is more in this instance IMHO.

Also the format changed to 3 forward spots was removed in 2012 which was beneficial for him. (Right when he was ascending) If there was a traditional C spot he would most certainly have less selections.

Further, you talk about Aldridge never making an All-NBA 1st team.. neither has Paul George.

PG made the All NBA 1st team in 18-19, when he also made the All Defense 1st team and placed 3rd in MVP voting.

He came into the league as a 3&D player and was viewed as one of the best wing defenders before he got a bigger role on the Pacers after a few seasons. Tough to argue who is the better defender in his prime, we definitely need to also understand here that one player pretty much exclusively focuses on defense, while the other is also the primary scoring option and franchise player in his prime years. So in that sense I definitely take PG over Caruso, simply because he brings so much more to the table. It´s like saying Tony Allen would be a better fit than Dwyane Wade since he is a better defender.

Lastly I definitely wouldn´t call Caruso tough as nails, since he struggles with injuries pretty much his whole career and never averaged 30 minutes per game. Just in comparsion, the most games Caruso ever played in one season are 71, Paul George played more games in 7 out of 15 seasons. The most minutes per games Caruso ever had were 28.7, Paul George averaged more minutes in 13 of 15 seasons, the 2 were he averaged less were his rookie season and the year he only played 6 games in total due to injury.

I stand corrected.. Paul George did make a Single All-NBA team. He had no business making it over Kevin Durant - who was more efficient, more accomplished/consistent (coming from a back to back finals mvp), similar numbers with less minutes and touches. Kawhi Lenoard was also a far better performer by the end of the year and he was 2nd team.. looking back if they were to vote again George and his playoff choking tendencies wouldn't make it. I'm not counting that as a true All-NBA 1st team. Nah.