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Am not sure why the NBA just don’t award half steals at this point.

The very basic instance is when a defensive player taps the ball, another teammate gets it and a change of possesion for the steal, but i believe, the steal stat would be credited to the second player.

If any, it’s a team (dual) defensive effort for those players since both had to work extra to force the change of possesion.

i see half-sacks in the NFL and that makes sense to credit those players and i feel the NBA is better off rewarding both players too.


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Actually, it’s typically awarded to the first defender to touch it, not the one that eventually recovers it.

Steal force and steal recovery like for fumbles?

Jasen777 wrote:Steal force and steal recovery like for fumbles?

Not sure why a guy would get .5 stat for just being in the right spot from a deflection. Just give the steal to the guy who resulted in the ball being stolen.

tmorgan wrote:Actually, it’s typically awarded to the first defender to touch it, not the one that eventually recovers it.

Yes. This (at least used to be) is described on NBA.com website with video examples provided. How accurately they enforce it I do not know

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Deflections of... the way life used to be.
Deflections of... the steal you took from me.
Old song.

Why stop at half (0.5) steal? We also need a third (0.3) steal

Where is the stat for winning the tip off and tip off recovery?

If the defensive player forces a jump ball and his team wins the tip and recovers it is that a steal on the stat sheet?
Offensive player loses possession via jump ball and tip recovery = a turnover.

durden_tyler wrote:Am not sure why the NBA just don’t award half steals at this point.

The very basic instance is when a defensive player taps the ball, another teammate gets it and a change of possesion for the steal, but i believe, the steal stat would be credited to the second player.

If any, it’s a team (dual) defensive effort for those players since both had to work extra to force the change of possesion.

i see half-sacks in the NFL and that makes sense to credit those players and i feel the NBA is better off rewarding both players too.


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Wouldn't this just be the first player gets a steal and the second player gets a recovered loose ball? Both already tracked?

J-Wolves wrote:Where is the stat for winning the tip off and tip off recovery?

If the defensive player forces a jump ball and his team wins the tip and recovers it is that a steal on the stat sheet?
Offensive player loses possession via jump ball and tip recovery = a turnover.

https://www.82games.com/random14.htm

I think that's what you're looking for?

dhsilv2 wrote:

J-Wolves wrote:Where is the stat for winning the tip off and tip off recovery?

If the defensive player forces a jump ball and his team wins the tip and recovers it is that a steal on the stat sheet?
Offensive player loses possession via jump ball and tip recovery = a turnover.

https://www.82games.com/random14.htm

I think that's what you're looking for?

Yeah thats interesting.
Live jump ball vs the useless opening tip off where it does not matter and some players dont even try to win the tip.

If the defensive player forces a jump ball and his team wins the tip and recovers it is that a steal added on the game stat sheet?

Daddy 801 wrote:

Jasen777 wrote:Steal force and steal recovery like for fumbles?

Not sure why a guy would get .5 stat for just being in the right spot from a deflection. Just give the steal to the guy who resulted in the ball being stolen.

do we give rebounds to guys being in the right spot from a missed shot?

J-Wolves wrote:

dhsilv2 wrote:

J-Wolves wrote:Where is the stat for winning the tip off and tip off recovery?

If the defensive player forces a jump ball and his team wins the tip and recovers it is that a steal on the stat sheet?
Offensive player loses possession via jump ball and tip recovery = a turnover.

https://www.82games.com/random14.htm

I think that's what you're looking for?

Yeah thats interesting.
Live jump ball vs the useless opening tip off where it does not matter and some players dont even try to win the tip.

If the defensive player forces a jump ball and his team wins the tip and recovers it is that a steal added on the game stat sheet?

Oh, gotcha. I'm sure that's something you can pull as it's in the play by play data. I'm note even sure what's that's called. But I'd think forced tips should be separate. That isn't a steal.

YogurtProducer wrote:

Daddy 801 wrote:

Jasen777 wrote:Steal force and steal recovery like for fumbles?

Not sure why a guy would get .5 stat for just being in the right spot from a deflection. Just give the steal to the guy who resulted in the ball being stolen.

do we give rebounds to guys being in the right spot from a missed shot?

Sure but we also track contested vs uncontested rebounds.