Which franchise is the most God forsaken hell hole in the League?

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Which franchise is the most God forsaken hell hole in the League?

Brooklyn Nets
9
4%
Charlotte Hornets
55
27%
Washington Wizards
28
14%
LA Clippers
16
8%
Sacramento Kings
27
13%
New Orleans Pelicans
54
27%
Utah Jazz
4
2%
Other
8
4%
 
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Which franchise is the most God forsaken hell hole in the League? 

Post#1 » by Old_Blue » Fri Nov 7, 2025 4:45 am

Use whatever metric or combination of metrics you choose. Worst ownership/management. Lousiest players. Saddest fan base. Crappiest luck. Stupidest history of trades. Most pathetic attempts at tanking. We're not talking about mere mediocrity here. We're talking about the real creme de la creme of ****. Negative bonus points for carrying on a tradition of unholy wretchedness for truly obscene periods of time. My personal Final Four of Failure? Charlotte, Washington, New Orleans and Utah - with the Wizards taking the title as most God forsaken hell hole in the League.




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Post#2 » by TheHartBreakKid » Fri Nov 7, 2025 5:00 am

:lol:

The Clippers
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Post#3 » by JRoy » Fri Nov 7, 2025 5:03 am

CHA and WAS.
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Post#4 » by The Servant » Fri Nov 7, 2025 5:06 am

Charlotte and it isnt even close. I started typing out why but thought it would take to long and I didnt want to put in the effort because it's Charlotte.

Wizards had a chip in the 70s as the Bullets.
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Post#5 » by chilluminati » Fri Nov 7, 2025 5:09 am

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Post#6 » by DusterBuster » Fri Nov 7, 2025 5:11 am

TheHartBreakKid wrote::lol:

The Clippers


They're the most cursed.

Pelicans and Hornets are the most inept where they can never seem to be able to put together even something passing for a good team.

Maybe the Hornets should go back to being the Bobcats?
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Post#7 » by Ckay » Fri Nov 7, 2025 5:16 am

TheHartBreakKid wrote::lol:

The Clippers

They need to change the name.
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Post#8 » by uraverage » Fri Nov 7, 2025 5:16 am

This topic so requires a poll!!!
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Post#9 » by floppymoose » Fri Nov 7, 2025 5:17 am

Ckay wrote:
TheHartBreakKid wrote::lol:

The Clippers

They need to change the name.

It honestly makes more sense than the Lakers.
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Post#10 » by The Servant » Fri Nov 7, 2025 5:24 am

DusterBuster wrote:
TheHartBreakKid wrote::lol:

The Clippers


They're the most cursed.

Pelicans and Hornets are the most inept where they can never seem to be able to put together even something passing for a good team.

Maybe the Hornets should go back to being the Bobcats?


At least the Pelicans have drafted CP3, AD, Zion. They have had some bad luck but they have assembled some semi passable rosters that never quite took that next step. Go look at Charlotte's draft history and scroll for a while, it reads as nothing but sadness:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHA/draft.html
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Post#11 » by ADMVP » Fri Nov 7, 2025 6:42 am

The Servant wrote:
DusterBuster wrote:
TheHartBreakKid wrote::lol:

The Clippers


They're the most cursed.

Pelicans and Hornets are the most inept where they can never seem to be able to put together even something passing for a good team.

Maybe the Hornets should go back to being the Bobcats?


At least the Pelicans have drafted CP3, AD, Zion. They have had some bad luck but they have assembled some semi passable rosters that never quite took that next step. Go look at Charlotte's draft history and scroll for a while, it reads as nothing but sadness:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHA/draft.html

We drafted David West, too.
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Post#12 » by Daddy 801 » Fri Nov 7, 2025 7:32 am

Are we talking currently or historically? Or a mixture of both??

That changes the answer quite a bit.
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Post#13 » by FarBeyondDriven » Fri Nov 7, 2025 9:32 am

It's objectively the Kings. Have made the playoffs once in the past 20 years. In that same time frame the Hornets, who are currently, laughably, winning this poll, have made it three times. The Wizards have made it 7 times and actually won a few series. Pelicans have made it 7 times and won a couple of series. Jazz have made it 11 times and won multiple series. And going forward, let me ask you this...who are you more excited to watch right now? Who has promise with a roster full of good/great young talent? Who has pieces they can move to try and make a playoff push? If you could be gifted one of these franchises with your life depending on making the most playoffs over the next decade who are you choosing?
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Post#14 » by tmorgan » Fri Nov 7, 2025 9:39 am

FarBeyondDriven wrote:It's objectively the Kings. Have made the playoffs once in the past 20 years. In that same time frame the Hornets, who are currently, laughably, winning this poll, have made it three times. And going forward, let me ask you this...who are you more excited to watch right now? Who has promise? Who has pieces they can move to try and make a playoff push? If you could be gifted one of these franchises with your life depending on making the most playoffs over the next decade who are you choosing?


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Post#15 » by Lalouie » Fri Nov 7, 2025 9:39 am

NO
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Post#16 » by nomansland » Fri Nov 7, 2025 9:47 am

The Servant wrote:
DusterBuster wrote:
TheHartBreakKid wrote::lol:

The Clippers


They're the most cursed.

Pelicans and Hornets are the most inept where they can never seem to be able to put together even something passing for a good team.

Maybe the Hornets should go back to being the Bobcats?


At least the Pelicans have drafted CP3, AD, Zion. They have had some bad luck but they have assembled some semi passable rosters that never quite took that next step. Go look at Charlotte's draft history and scroll for a while, it reads as nothing but sadness:

https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHA/draft.html


I always suspected that New Orleans got a couple of "gifts" in the draft, same with Cleveland. With what happened this year I wouldn't at all be surprised if something was rigged for them with the AD and Zion drafts.
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Post#17 » by prophet_of_rage » Fri Nov 7, 2025 10:02 am

floppymoose wrote:
Ckay wrote:
TheHartBreakKid wrote:

The Clippers

They need to change the name.

It honestly makes more sense than the Lakers.
How?

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Post#18 » by floppymoose » Fri Nov 7, 2025 11:51 am

prophet_of_rage wrote:
floppymoose wrote:
Ckay wrote:They need to change the name.

It honestly makes more sense than the Lakers.
How?

Lakers were named for all the lakes in Minnesota. But there aren't a lot of lakes in LA.
Clippers are named for ships, and LA has a major harbor.
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Post#19 » by Mr Peanut » Fri Nov 7, 2025 12:24 pm

I feel sad for Kings fans given their franchise's historical ineptitude and then finally a season of hope a couple of years ago, only to be dashed and now again mired in mediocrity. Unfortunately it starts at the top and Vivek is a terrible owner, and the guys he hires aren't much better. Hoping they see the light soon and embark on yet another rebuild. Doubt it happens though.
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Post#20 » by UcanUwill » Fri Nov 7, 2025 12:35 pm

prophet_of_rage wrote:
floppymoose wrote:
Ckay wrote:They need to change the name.

It honestly makes more sense than the Lakers.
How?

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Did you seriously ask this question?; :lol:

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