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Is Kobe Bryant the most overrated player All Time?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:23 pm
by Common Sensei
1. 41% FG in all 7 Playoff Finals Combined
2. 40% FG Lowest for a Finals MVP All Time
3. 44% FG for Regular Season Career
4. 44% FG for Playoffs Career
5. 38% FG 17% 3P IN 2004 Finals Causing Phil Jackson and Shaq to leave
6. Only 2 Scoring Titles compared to George Gervin and Allen Iverson who each have 4
7. True Shooting Percentage not even in Top 25 All Time at own Position
8. When Phil Jackson left couldn't make the playoffs
9. Never Won or finished runner up for DPOY Award
10. Was Handed a 3-year video game series for Nintendo while averaging just 15.4 PPG and shooting 42%

I'm not trying stir up hate, I 'm just trying to understand why Kobe Bryant has the most Negatives out of any so-called GOAT in top 15 discussion but get a free pass from fans when The Media and NBA created him to be the next Cash Cow to replace Michael Jordan.

Re: Is Kobe Bryant the most overrated player All Time?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:27 pm
by Optms
Now name all the accolades and records he has and there is your answer. Hand selecting like 1/30th of his resume just to say he's overrated is misleading AF. Not even 1/30th.

Whose in your top 15 too, OP? I'm fixing to fact check that negative mark narrative you're creating.

Re: Is Kobe Bryant the most overrated player All Time?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:28 pm
by Caneman786
It's probably Iverson, Kyrie, or someone in that mold.

Kobe was a two-way monster and there's no chance the most overrated player of all time played defense.

Re: Is Kobe Bryant the most overrated player All Time?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:33 pm
by Grumpy Heat Fan
no, that would be Lebron James

Kobe's main problem was his inefficiency in shooting. But he was a great defender and could lead the offense and was clutch

Re: Is Kobe Bryant the most overrated player All Time?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:33 pm
by EmpireFalls
I think Kobe was super overrated from around the early 2000s to mid 2010s (people earnestly had him in the GOAT debate, a laughable opinion) then when LeBron started winning, Kobe became properly rated, then he died and became overrated again, but now I think he may actually be underrated.

No one has more playoff wins against 50 win teams than him and he was a more efficient scorer than 7 foot contemporary Tim Duncan. Plus, he played in a deadball era, was more portable than he gets credit for and had superb longevity.

Issue with him would be the mediocre impact footprint compared to other top tier ATGs.

Re: Is Kobe Bryant the most overrated player All Time?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:37 pm
by MrBigShot
No.

Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:no, that would be Lebron James

Kobe's main problem was his inefficiency in shooting. But he was a great defender and could lead the offense and was clutch


This is a myth perpetuated by fans. Kobe averaged ~30/5/5 in the playoffs on above league average efficiency between 07-10 culminating in 3 finals appearances and 2 championships.

He should've been more efficient as talented as he was, but he was not an inefficient scorer.

Re: Is Kobe Bryant the most overrated player All Time?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:37 pm
by JRoy
He and Iverson both.

Re: Is Kobe Bryant the most overrated player All Time?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:38 pm
by EmpireFalls
Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:no, that would be Lebron James

What would be the case for him being the most overrated player ever?

Re: Is Kobe Bryant the most overrated player All Time?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:43 pm
by Black Jack
EmpireFalls wrote:I think Kobe was super overrated from around the early 2000s to mid 2010s (people earnestly had him in the GOAT debate, a laughable opinion) then when LeBron started winning, Kobe became properly rated, then he died and became overrated again, but now I think he may actually be underrated.

No one has more playoff wins against 50 win teams than him and he was a more efficient scorer than 7 foot contemporary Tim Duncan. Plus, he played in a deadball era, was more portable than he gets credit for and had superb longevity.

Issue with him would be the mediocre impact footprint compared to other top tier ATGs.


I think Kobe's high pressure redeem team Olympic gold medal match closer performance with LeBron, Durant etc. on the roster showed he has a better GOAT case skill wise than people want to admit. He just didn't have the overwhelming physical advantage of Jordan/Kareem/LeBron/Wilt types.

Re: Is Kobe Bryant the most overrated player All Time?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:45 pm
by PRguy23
He was always overrated and when the going got tough he folded under pressure. Had 1 bad season after the shaq trade and was throwing everyone under the bus demanding to be traded. 1 bad season.

Re: Is Kobe Bryant the most overrated player All Time?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:47 pm
by Shock Defeat
Yes, he was overrated and his aura is unmatched nowadays because he is a legend who passed away (rip). He was not even in people's top 10 lists until he died, and now all of a sudden he is mentioned in GOAT conversations a lot more than you think.

Re: Is Kobe Bryant the most overrated player All Time?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:47 pm
by MoneyMo
Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:no, that would be Lebron James

Kobe's main problem was his inefficiency in shooting. But he was a great defender and could lead the offense and was clutch


Please get over Lebron punking Riley by watching the Brazilian world cup game during their meeting in 2014 :lol:

Re: Is Kobe Bryant the most overrated player All Time?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:49 pm
by Mirotic12
At RealGM forums, Kobe is without any doubt whatsoever, the most UNDERRATED all time great NBA player.

Re: Is Kobe Bryant the most overrated player All Time?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:51 pm
by sashaturiaf
OP has made his virgin post hating on someone who was the greatest winner of his generation. Never change Realgm


Kobe is easily the most overrated/underrated player on realstatwarchers.com

Re: Is Kobe Bryant the most overrated player All Time?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:52 pm
by Karate Diop
I have Jordan higher than Kobe on the most overrated list, so no...

(Just to clarify Jordan isn't #1 either)

Re: Is Kobe Bryant the most overrated player All Time?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:55 pm
by sashaturiaf
Grumpy Heat Fan wrote:no, that would be Lebron James

Kobe's main problem was his inefficiency in shooting. But he was a great defender and could lead the offense and was clutch



Lebron is the most overrated here for sure

Stacked Super teams every year after the decision, he should have 6-7 rings at least

Re: Is Kobe Bryant the most overrated player All Time?

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2025 11:58 pm
by LarsV8
He is definitely on the short list.

Jordan, Curry, Doncic, Wade, Kobe stand out to me.

Re: Is Kobe Bryant the most overrated player All Time?

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2025 12:01 am
by tmorgan
Oooooooo….. popcorn.gif

Wait, you can’t just say popcorn.gif and make it work? Man, these internets are confusing.

My addition: don’t forget Carmelo.

Re: Is Kobe Bryant the most overrated player All Time?

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2025 12:04 am
by Dan33185
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Re: Is Kobe Bryant the most overrated player All Time?

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2025 12:13 am
by Homer38
Kobe is underrated by some,overrated by others