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Bucks 9-13, lost to a 2 win Wizards (now 3 win) team that didn’t have Sarr, despite shooting 21-38 from 3.

Either that or Doc HAS to get fired now right? Either one of these 2 things has got to happen.

Both OKC and San Antonio should jump all over a Antetokounmpo trade. Chet plus seems like a great starting point or Castle or Harper plus. I can't see too many teams beating that. Maybe Toronto offers Barnes plus a boat load of picks and swaps

Giannis is either playing injured or he has checked out and will ask for a trade. The team didn't win at all with him out. He isn't being aggressive. He has been super passive... he's not defending with a purpose... he's not rebounding with a purpose... he's playing like one foot is out the door. The next week will be super telling. He has two games coming up against Detroit and he doesn't like Stewart or Detroit at all he always brings it... if he is playing like that against the Pistons his days are numbered for sure.

If Okc is smart(and I think they are) they show no interest in any over 30 player with a history of missing playoffs. All they have to do is keep their core together and use picks or young players to fill in gaps. It's easy mode if they just leave it alone.

I appreciate the loyalty from both sides, but it's time. Bucks need to bite the bullet, thank Giannis for being perhaps the best player in franchise history, bringing them a championship, and move on. They can really accelerate the rebuild. They've kicked the can down the road enough. This roster is in shambles, they have no assets and no real young players to build around. Swapping players out for worse versions has reached its breaking point.

Cavsfansince84 wrote:If Okc is smart(and I think they are) they show no interest in any over 30 player with a history of missing playoffs. All they have to do is keep their core together and use picks or young players to fill in gaps. It's easy mode if they just leave it alone.

There is zero reason for OKC to do anything, other than perhaps trade Dieng and a first round pick for a quality backup big (like Jock Landale or something.) They can worry about things once the luxury tax issues creep up. They have a nearly perfect thing going, I don't see any appeal for making a huge change.

I hope so. That supporting cast is so sorry. He deserves better, especially after bringing Milwaukee their first championship in half a century.

BigGargamel wrote:

Cavsfansince84 wrote:If Okc is smart(and I think they are) they show no interest in any over 30 player with a history of missing playoffs. All they have to do is keep their core together and use picks or young players to fill in gaps. It's easy mode if they just leave it alone.

There is zero reason for OKC to do anything, other than perhaps trade Dieng and a first round pick for a quality backup big (like Jock Landale or something.) They can worry about things once the luxury tax issues creep up. They have a nearly perfect thing going, I don't see any appeal for making a huge change.

Watch the Lakers turn a few weeks of Austin Reaves playing great into Giannis.

Mr Swagtastic wrote:Both OKC and San Antonio should jump all over a Antetokounmpo trade. Chet plus seems like a great starting point or Castle or Harper plus. I can't see too many teams beating that. Maybe Toronto offers Barnes plus a boat load of picks and swaps

Hell no they shouldn't. OKC has no reason to make a move like that with how dominant they are without him. They don't need another superstar coming in there messing up their chemistry. San Antonio makes more sense but I dont know if the Bucks are interested in their assets.

Should have demanded out like 2 years ago. Same with Jokic.

Unfortunate for us because whether he ends up being paired with Shai or Wemby, the league is doomed. Hopefully he goes to the Lakers instead to balance things out for parity sake. Can't let Shai just win everything.

Optms wrote:Should have demanded out like 2 years ago. Same with Jokic.

Unfortunate for us because whether he ends up being paired with Shai or Wemby, the league is doomed. Hopefully he goes to the Lakers instead to balance things out for parity sake.

No one wants him to go to the Scum lol

Knicks or Miami are the best fits for him

doogie_hauser wrote:

Optms wrote:Should have demanded out like 2 years ago. Same with Jokic.

Unfortunate for us because whether he ends up being paired with Shai or Wemby, the league is doomed. Hopefully he goes to the Lakers instead to balance things out for parity sake.

No one wants him to go to the Scum lol

Knicks or Miami are the best fits for him

Nobody mentioned him going to Boston, what do you mean?

Inevitable.

There might have been a quiet one already with all that New York stuff that happened earlier in the year.

They've been desperately patching the roster since the Dame trade but it looks like the wheels are finally coming off. The Bucks don't even look playin level at this point. It definitely feels like its time.

Most importantly for the Bucks, since their pick is in a swap with the Pelicans who are already awful, this might be their only chance at tanking for a great pick they can keep. Trade Giannis for a bucket of assets, develop Rollins and KPJ, and tank to hopefully get a high lottery pick in a loaded draft.

Optms wrote:Should have demanded out like 2 years ago. Same with Jokic.

Unfortunate for us because whether he ends up being paired with Shai or Wemby, the league is doomed. Hopefully he goes to the Lakers instead to balance things out for parity sake. Can't let Shai just win everything.

For parity’s sake? The Lakers? Could be worth taking the gold glasses off.

bstein14 wrote:

BigGargamel wrote:

Cavsfansince84 wrote:If Okc is smart(and I think they are) they show no interest in any over 30 player with a history of missing playoffs. All they have to do is keep their core together and use picks or young players to fill in gaps. It's easy mode if they just leave it alone.

There is zero reason for OKC to do anything, other than perhaps trade Dieng and a first round pick for a quality backup big (like Jock Landale or something.) They can worry about things once the luxury tax issues creep up. They have a nearly perfect thing going, I don't see any appeal for making a huge change.

Watch the Lakers turn a few weeks of Austin Reaves playing great into Giannis.

Reaves is a free agent and Milwaukee would not trade for him without the promise of signing an extension, at least i dont think they would be that dumb

ball_takes23 wrote:

bstein14 wrote:

BigGargamel wrote:
There is zero reason for OKC to do anything, other than perhaps trade Dieng and a first round pick for a quality backup big (like Jock Landale or something.) They can worry about things once the luxury tax issues creep up. They have a nearly perfect thing going, I don't see any appeal for making a huge change.

Watch the Lakers turn a few weeks of Austin Reaves playing great into Giannis.

Reaves is a free agent and Milwaukee would not trade for him without the promise of signing an extension, at least i dont think they would be that dumb

Part of what Milwaukee will or won't do, depends on what Giannis wants. This is already pretty clear. The Bucks don't want to tarnish this relationship they know his # will be hanging in the rafters one day soon and he'll go into the HOF a Buck. They want to keep that working relationship no matter what.

You are correct, that they may want to check with Reaves to ensure he'd be willing to accept a 5 year max contract from the Bucks if they make the trade for him.... If Reaves won't go/stay in Milwaukee its possible he goes to a third team that he actually wants to sign a max contract with and that team gives the Bucks the assets needed to get the deal done.

There's no chance the Bucks and Lakers make a trade work unless Reaves is outgoing. LeBron has a no -trade clause.

He really only has himself to blame. Has 2 of his brothers on the roster. Made the Bucks trade for Dame then buy him out. He wanted to bring Turner on board. He hated Griffin which is how they got Doc.

Like literally everything is his fault, he wanted to try out the GM role and this is what he got, his current situation.

Those MIL picks and swaps looking better and better.

I mean, who didn't see this coming?

Outside of Bucks fans who thought Giannis mere presence would turn Turner into a star player, I think the rest of us, we all knew this was coming. I would assume a good number of Bucks fans even could see this.