Chicago Bulls or Utah Jazz

dalekjazz · Post #1 » by **dalekjazz** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 5:11 pm

This season the Chicago Bulls and Utah Jazz were expected to be solid playoff teams and both have disappointed so far. If the playoffs started today both teams would not qualify. Recently both teams have made moves in an attempt to turn around their seasons(Chicago fired head coach Scott Skiles, Utah traded for sharp-shooter Kyle Korver). Which team will turn around their season and be in the playoffs at the end?

Point forward · Post #2 » by **Point forward** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 5:28 pm

Both I think. In the East, everything is possible (but catching the Celtics, lol), and I think the Jazz will hit their stride and sooner or later go on a 15-5 run.

NetsForce · Post #3 » by **NetsForce** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 5:59 pm

I can't see the Bulls turning it around, as for the Jazz if they make the playoffs it's going to be because some of the teams in front of them dropped off...

The Jazz were a .500 team most of last year and that's what they are right now, I should have known better than to put so much stock in one great playoff run :-?

SportsWorld · Post #4 » by **SportsWorld** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 6:01 pm

Bulls have a very easy schedule for January and February so I think they can turn it around and gain momentum. Jazz should make the playoffs as well.

AIfan3 · Post #5 » by **AIfan3** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 6:04 pm

The Bulls will get hot sometime soon, it's going to happen, happens every season.. As for the Jazz, I don't know, the West is so good that a simple 4 game losing streak can drop a team far out of playoff contention..

Post #6 » by **suckfish** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 6:51 pm

Definitely both.

Jazz are the better team though.

carrottop12 · Post #7 » by **carrottop12** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 6:55 pm

Some things about the Jazz.

1. They played 10 back to backs in the first 2 months of the sesaon, they have only 10 left over the last 4 months of basketball.

2. They played 19 road games in the first 54 nights of the season, they have only 22 over the remaining 112 nights. This should drastically improve their road record.

3. They've only played 15 home games so far, thats 4th fewest in the league, considering they are the 6th best home team in the league, my guess is they will be fine at the end of the season.

CAE15 · Post #8 » by **CAE15** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 9:45 pm

Jazz/Bulls finals 10 years later.

Black Jesus 1 · Post #9 » by **Black Jesus 1** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 9:58 pm

Jazz will, Bulls? Not sure. Only 3 games out, so yea.

djtruebeliever · Post #10 » by **djtruebeliever** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 10:08 pm

I think it's extremely likely both teams make the playoffs.

Post #11 » by **BrooklynBulls** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 10:08 pm

Both should. Korver should help, as well as an easier schedule. The Bulls play in the east, and the Bulls have been playing better recently. Our marshmallow January schedule should aid us as well.

RTM · Post #12 » by **RTM** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 10:46 pm

I'm fairly confident that the Jazz will, and the Bulls can do it if they tweak their roster. As is, I say no. to many inherent flaws.

yunggunz · Post #13 » by **yunggunz** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 10:55 pm

Batronuj wrote:Some things about the Jazz.

1. They played 10 back to backs in the first 2 months of the sesaon, they have only 10 left over the last 4 months of basketball.

2. They played 19 road games in the first 54 nights of the season, they have only 22 over the remaining 112 nights. This should drastically improve their road record.

3. They've only played 15 home games so far, thats 4th fewest in the league, considering they are the 6th best home team in the league, my guess is they will be fine at the end of the season.

Heres another stat....they are 34-30 in their last 64 games. They have been playing mediocre ball for almost a full season.

NetsForce · Post #14 » by **NetsForce** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 11:17 pm

yunggunz wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Heres another stat....they are 34-30 in their last 64 games. They have been playing mediocre ball for almost a full season.

Co-signed. In that regard they remind me of the Clippers who had that one playoff run then fell back to mediocrity.

Now I think this Jazz team is better than that Clippers team in a variety of ways but I think everyone, myself included, kind of jumped the gun on the Jazz. They have a great 1-2 combo in Williams and Boozer but they need more than just that, Okur was the "more" last year but this year... I have no idea what's happened to him.

They have some nice young parts but at least my revised assessment is that they won't be competing for the Western Conference finals this year at best they compete for one of the lower seeds in the West... But once again that occurs if a couple of the teams ahead of them drop off, Portland and Golden State are the teams most likely to do so but still...

sarah42 · Post #15 » by **sarah42** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 11:32 pm

the bulls will make it imo, or have a better chance because of how weak the east is.

if the jazz make it, that means one team has to fall. who is that team?

golden state? i used to think Portland, but they are still winning games. the jazz picked the wrong season to fall like that, and isn't the reason why they have soooo many back to backs is the stupid fact that they don't play on sunday. WTF is the logic in that?

RealTalkof916 · Post #16 » by **RealTalkof916** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 11:47 pm

I don't think either is gonna make it. I'd say the Bulls have a better chance not because they're a better team than the Jazz, but because of how horrible the East is.

The Jazz have to play well and hope that somebody stumbles. They need to make as much ground as they can before April comes. If they're still on the outside looking in by then, they'll be done. Take a look at their schedule in April:

Wed, Apr 2 Minnesota
Fri, Apr 4 San Antonio
Tue, Apr 8 @ New Orleans
Thu, Apr 10 @ Dallas
Sat, Apr 12 Denver
Mon, Apr 14 Houston
Wed, Apr 16 @ San Antonio

Post #17 » by **BrooklynBulls** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 11:47 pm

sarah42 wrote:
if the jazz make it, that means one team has to fall. who is that team?

I think injuries will play the largest role in determining that. Teams that have the most problems with injuries: Denver with their glass frontcourt, LA, with their bad luck, Golden State, because of Baron (he's been healthy though), and New Orleans because David West always manages to get hurt.

Post #18 » by **BrooklynBulls** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 11:50 pm

RealTalkof916 wrote:They need to make as much ground as they can before April comes. If they're still on the outside looking in by then, they'll be done. Take a look at their schedule in April:

Wed, Apr 2 Minnesota
Fri, Apr 4 San Antonio
Tue, Apr 8 @ New Orleans
Thu, Apr 10 @ Dallas
Sat, Apr 12 Denver
Mon, Apr 14 Houston
Wed, Apr 16 @ San Antonio

San Antonio should be easy pickings if they keep up their play. They'll be resting their vets, not caring about the win. Minnesota is one of the worst teams in the league. Dallas' seed too, may be established by then. One of N.O., Denver, or Houston will likely be out of the playoff picture completely, competing for nothing.

Its impossible to evaluate strength of schedule so far away, since we can't predict injuries, recent play, and seeding. Utah could go undefeated that month, simply because everything goes their way. We'll have to wait and see.

yunggunz · Post #19 » by **yunggunz** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 11:55 pm

BrooklynBulls wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

One of N.O., Denver, or Houston will likely be out of the playoff picture completely, competing for nothing.

The likelihood of that happening is about the same as the Jazz being completely out of it.

yunggunz · Post #20 » by **yunggunz** » Sat Jan 5, 2008 11:57 pm

I think the Bulls have the better chance just because they have so many guys who just seem to be playing like crap for no particular reason. Im pretty confident that Gordon and Hinrich will get back on track. But they really need a low post option.