When Measuring a Player's Greatness ....
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When Measuring a Player's Greatness ....
When Measuring a Player's Greatness do you measure them more on how they did in the Playoffs or Regular Season?
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Playoffs are definately important, but look at guys like Charles Barkley. An absolute monster, but he never won a title and only went to the finals once. You measure him on his greatness in the Regular season, not in the playoffs.
Also, guys like Robert Horry haven't done jack in the regular season, but have been phenomenal in the playoffs. So you can't base it on one or the other.
Also, guys like Robert Horry haven't done jack in the regular season, but have been phenomenal in the playoffs. So you can't base it on one or the other.
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I base it on 65% playoffs, and 35% regular season..of course it's different for certain players..Shaq a few years ago, and Duncan these days, are measured more in the playoffs than they are in the regular season for example..
in the playoffs, you play the best teams in the NBA..in the regular season, you also play them, but you also mix in the bad teams..in the playoffs, you have to adjust, since you play the SAME team at least 4 times..that's a lot more difficult to do offensively, since teams are going to adjust to you every game..
if a player's overall play is lower in the playoffs than it is in the regular season, this will ALWAYS bring in some justified criticism IMO..that is when you are supposed to elevate your game, because that is your road to a championship..and isn't that supposed to be the main reason to play in a league?(other than the $, of course)..
in the playoffs, you play the best teams in the NBA..in the regular season, you also play them, but you also mix in the bad teams..in the playoffs, you have to adjust, since you play the SAME team at least 4 times..that's a lot more difficult to do offensively, since teams are going to adjust to you every game..
if a player's overall play is lower in the playoffs than it is in the regular season, this will ALWAYS bring in some justified criticism IMO..that is when you are supposed to elevate your game, because that is your road to a championship..and isn't that supposed to be the main reason to play in a league?(other than the $, of course)..
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horry never lit someone up for like 40-50 pts in the playoffs. you can be a star during the regular season, but you are not great. rockets fans are gonna jump all over this but tmac has never really advanced in the playoffs, despite his scoring prowess, etc. etc. he is a legitimate superstar but he is not great, because when the games really matter, his team hasn't won.
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It's definitely more playoffs than regular season. If it was just regular season, Wilt would be the GOAT instead of you know who.
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The answer is complex and the answer depends on many factors.
I think championships add to a player's legacy and the playoffs are more important than a single regular season game in winning a championship. If you have a championship team around you, then only one thing matters - your finals performance. The first round, second round simply doesn't matter. It is the finals. I don't like crediting players who coast in the regular season on championship teams only to tear it up in the playoffs, unless they win a title.
If you're not a championship contender then I think much more emphasis should be placed on regular season play. It shows how resilient you are, it shows how your team is developing and growing and it allows you to really showcase how good you are relative to all your peers - rather than just your peers on really deep (playoff) teams.
The greatest modern players of all time really performed well in the finals and in the regular season. No coasting. Jordan never coasted. Magic, Bird didn't coast. KAJ didn't coast. Kobe doesn't coast. Even guys who never won a championship are considered great players because they played at a high level every night -82 in the regular season and however long they were in the playoffs. AI for example is a champion in my eyes. KG too.
Shaq always infuriated me with his coasting and that's why he'll never be the greatest center to ever play the game.
I think championships add to a player's legacy and the playoffs are more important than a single regular season game in winning a championship. If you have a championship team around you, then only one thing matters - your finals performance. The first round, second round simply doesn't matter. It is the finals. I don't like crediting players who coast in the regular season on championship teams only to tear it up in the playoffs, unless they win a title.
If you're not a championship contender then I think much more emphasis should be placed on regular season play. It shows how resilient you are, it shows how your team is developing and growing and it allows you to really showcase how good you are relative to all your peers - rather than just your peers on really deep (playoff) teams.
The greatest modern players of all time really performed well in the finals and in the regular season. No coasting. Jordan never coasted. Magic, Bird didn't coast. KAJ didn't coast. Kobe doesn't coast. Even guys who never won a championship are considered great players because they played at a high level every night -82 in the regular season and however long they were in the playoffs. AI for example is a champion in my eyes. KG too.
Shaq always infuriated me with his coasting and that's why he'll never be the greatest center to ever play the game.
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Robert Horry is actually a legit playoff performer IMO..I get to see him in the regular season all the time, and I can honestly tell you that he's a completely different player in the playoffs..
the Pistons-Spurs game 5 was one of the best performances I've ever seen in my life..I just kept saying, "no Horry, don't take that shot" and he would keep making it..that dunk on Rip just seemed like Horry wasn't even Horry anymore..it just didn't make any sense..
last year's shot in Denver..I knew he would make that..I finally got used to it..
the Pistons-Spurs game 5 was one of the best performances I've ever seen in my life..I just kept saying, "no Horry, don't take that shot" and he would keep making it..that dunk on Rip just seemed like Horry wasn't even Horry anymore..it just didn't make any sense..
last year's shot in Denver..I knew he would make that..I finally got used to it..
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You build a name for yourself in the regular season.
Everything you do in the playoffs is like doing what you did in the regular season times 3.
After Wade's finals run he was considered better than Lebron
After Deron's playoff run he was hands down better than Paul.
After Baron's playoff run he was considered an MVP.
Everything you do in the playoffs is like doing what you did in the regular season times 3.
After Wade's finals run he was considered better than Lebron
After Deron's playoff run he was hands down better than Paul.
After Baron's playoff run he was considered an MVP.
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Taiwan Killa wrote:You build a name for yourself in the regular season.
Everything you do in the playoffs is like doing what you did in the regular season times 3.
After Wade's finals run he was considered better than Lebron
After Deron's playoff run he was hands down better than Paul.
After Baron's playoff run he was considered an MVP.
Not anymore.
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