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Does Redd deserve to be on the all-star team this year? Sure he's putting up decent numbers of 23/5/4 but his team stinks. So do you think he deserves to get in like Joe Johnson did last year?

no becuase now theres ray allen, and jojo's team is better. and theres alot of competition at the SF spot so theyll all prolly get it it over him.

but his team is terrible so he wont.

VC, Pierce, Allen, Kidd, Billups, Hamilton, Joe Johnson, Caron Butler all deserve a spot before Redd.

his team is one of the worst teams in the conference..it isn't like he's putting up numbers better than all of his competition..and he isn't playing like he's better than all of his competition..

you would have to stand out to make an all-star team with such a poor team..

KnicksH20 wrote:VC, Pierce, Allen, Kidd, Billups, Hamilton, Joe Johnson, Caron Butler all deserve a spot before Redd.

redd has better numberrs then hamilton, johnson, carter and allen.

but thats if your going by numbers.

if you want to go by the best team just put the boston celtics on the all star team if you want to get the best players you should get it right.

no good numbers but the team isn't doing good enough to where he would get a lot of recognition

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redd has better numberrs then hamilton, johnson, carter and allen.

but thats if your going by numbers.

if you want to go by the best team just put the boston celtics on the all star team if you want to get the best players you should get it right.

Here comes the Wisconsin Redd suporters.

Why should Redd be in the all-star game? His numbers are a LITTLE better than those aforementioned guys. But, your team stinks. It's horrible. And besides, Redd is too one dimensional for my liking. You can throw the numbers if you want, but if you want to go by numbers, then Kobe should be MVP every single year. So far, Kidd, Billups, Pierce, Carter have clearly outplayed Michael Redd this year. Then you have guys like Joe Johnson who are similar to Redd in numbers, but JJ's team is immensely better, so he gets the nod. Again, if VINCE CARTER shoots a better % than you on the floor, then

Stop going by *numbers.* In that case, Eddy Curry should have been an all-star last year because he put up 20/7. You look at how well a person is playing in RESPECT to their team's success.

it's definitely easier to put up good numbers on a bad team IMO..

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Here comes the Wisconsin Redd suporters.

Why should Redd be in the all-star game? His numbers are a LITTLE better than those aforementioned guys. But, your team stinks. It's horrible. And besides, Redd is too one dimensional for my liking. You can throw the numbers if you want, but if you want to go by numbers, then Kobe should be MVP every single year. So far, Kidd, Billups, Pierce, Carter have clearly outplayed Michael Redd this year. Then you have guys like Joe Johnson who are similar to Redd in numbers, but JJ's team is immensely better, so he gets the nod. Again, if VINCE CARTER shoots a better % than you on the floor, then

Stop going by *numbers.* In that case, Eddy Curry should have been an all-star last year because he put up 20/7. You look at how well a person is playing in RESPECT to their team's success.

lol

your joking right.

so your saying if the team isn't good there are no all stars on it.

i am not even go ing to try to agrue this point.

Exactly. Ray Allen is averaging 18 ppg because he has to share the ball with two superstars. If you gave him the green light to shoot like Redd, he'd be putting up those numbers too.

NO

KnicksH20 wrote:Exactly. Ray Allen is averaging 18 ppg because he has to share the ball with two superstars. If you gave him the green light to shoot like Redd, he'd be putting up those numbers too.

shouldn't he be shooting better than 41.7% if he has two other superstars to open things up for him?

i dont think redd is an all star but i've always found the voiding of good stats on bad teams to be a flaw statement.

I don't think people are voiding the stats of good players on bad teams so much as they are giving even more value to the stats of good players on good teams, and that's legit. Allen has been phenomenal for the Celtics this season on BOTH sides of the ball (yes, he's even been phenomenal defensively). In fact, if you look at things from a defensive standpoint Redd is the worst player on that list; as a complete package Redd lags behind those other players. The Celtics play a far more defensive-minded brand of basketball and it should come as no surprise that they shoot a slightly lower percentage. And I don't think Ray Allen is really deserving of an allstar birth at this point, either, given the depth of guards in the eastern conference.

To be an allstar you have to do something that makes you stand out from the competition. Redd's numbers aren't far and away better than his competition's and his team is much worse. That's pretty much all there is to it. There can be allstars on bad teams but they usually stand out statistically, have a more well-rounded game and have at least some history of playing for more competitive teams to the extent that you can really tell that the supporting cast around them are terrible (see the TWolves, who pretty much have Garnett's and Pierce's supporting cast of the past few seasons). Redd's still an excellent player, he just isn't deserving of an allstar birth this season.

I hope even most Bucks fans realize Redd isn't an all-star this year. I certainly do.

If a player is putting up good numbers with reasonably good efficiency, then he deserves to be an All-Star. Yes, there are exceptions to the rule, as there are exceptions to every rule, but Redd isn't one of these. He's doing everything in his power to make the Bucks as good as possible, and his stellar numbers shouldn't be counted against him because he's been dealt a bum hand.

All in my opinion, of course.

Allen DOES NOT deserve an All-Star bid over Redd this season IMO. The guy is a third option putting up 18 4 and 3 on under 42% shooting. Hardly impressive IMO.

But No, Redd does not deserve to be in the all-star game this season, not when his team has problems like we do stemming from his hero-complex.

Im a Bucks fan and I voted No. He's not an allstar this year. He is a damn good player but there are too many better shooting guards in the Eastern Conference right now.

skones wrote:But No, Redd does not deserve to be in the all-star game this season, not when his team has problems like we do stemming from his hero-complex.

Can you elaborate a bit on this "hero complex"? I haven't watched him play a lot this season, but I never felt he was a selfish player.

These three are the only locks in my mind not counting the voting.

Howard
Garnett
Lebron

The next level would be

Wade
Kidd

To me these 5 are going to be on the team somehow, some way.

So that leaves 7 spots left. Likely suspects

Pierce
Allen
Bosh
Butler
Redd
Vince
Jefferson
Billups
Gerald Wallace
Joe Johnson
Josh Smith
Jamison
Iguodola


Out of that group you have to pick Bosh for some more depth at PF/C. Then Billups has to make it to rep the Pistons. Then Jefferson has really stepped up his game this year.

After that I couldn't honestly say any one player is doing all that better than any of the competition...........

Absolutely not... same argument was used against Kevin Martin at the beginning on the year, but the Bucks are worse with alot more talent