Hollinger's All-Star Ballot
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JOSE CALDERON muthatruckers. I hope all you Raptors haters are eating crow now, claiming how Calderon will never be anything more than a backup PG, and how he is not a top 15 pg in the league.
haha, that's laughable.
Btw, Jose Calderon has been better than Jason Kidd this year.
And no, I couldn't care less if my PG is rebounding. 36% shooting, LAWLZ.
Jose drops similiar numbers minus the rebounding, with MUCH MUCH better efficiency at 50%.
I'd pick Jose and Billups, but Kidd will get the nod because he's a HOF'er.
haha, that's laughable.
Btw, Jose Calderon has been better than Jason Kidd this year.
And no, I couldn't care less if my PG is rebounding. 36% shooting, LAWLZ.
Jose drops similiar numbers minus the rebounding, with MUCH MUCH better efficiency at 50%.
I'd pick Jose and Billups, but Kidd will get the nod because he's a HOF'er.
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Theres really no excuse to not have Melo on there.
If we are going by stats, he should get the nod over manu and matrix. If we are going by leading your team to wins, he gets it over Boozer.
And how is Amare starting? 22/9/1 and **** defense? IMO it should be Duncan at the 5, Dirk at the 4, and melo at the 3.
If we are going by stats, he should get the nod over manu and matrix. If we are going by leading your team to wins, he gets it over Boozer.
And how is Amare starting? 22/9/1 and **** defense? IMO it should be Duncan at the 5, Dirk at the 4, and melo at the 3.
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I'm a little surprised he has Amare in as a starter over Yao, I hadn't been impressed with either so much this season, but Yao's just plain BETTER. Maybe he's tired of Yao winning every year, even though he actually deserves it now.
I thought the Calderon pick was a little ballsy, but I agree with it. Calderon is an absolute monster, and with more PT, probably a top 5 point guard this season. He's very Nash-like with his ridiculous shooting efficiency and his high volume of his AST. His low turnovers are also ridiculous. Props to Calderon. I wanted my Rockets to pursue his ass hard in the offseason, obviously that never worked out.
I thought the Calderon pick was a little ballsy, but I agree with it. Calderon is an absolute monster, and with more PT, probably a top 5 point guard this season. He's very Nash-like with his ridiculous shooting efficiency and his high volume of his AST. His low turnovers are also ridiculous. Props to Calderon. I wanted my Rockets to pursue his ass hard in the offseason, obviously that never worked out.
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yunggunz wrote:Theres really no excuse to not have Melo on there.
If we are going by stats, he should get the nod over manu and matrix. If we are going by leading your team to wins, he gets it over Boozer.
And how is Amare starting? 22/9/1 and **** defense? IMO it should be Duncan at the 5, Dirk at the 4, and melo at the 3.
Well if you're going to play the numbers card, Duncan sure as hell doesn't "deserve" it. And he's a 4, not a 5. The numbers point to Yao, but I think Duncan is the better player.
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RoxFan08 wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Well if you're going to play the numbers card, Duncan sure as hell doesn't "deserve" it. And he's a 4, not a 5. The numbers point to Yao, but I think Duncan is the better player.
Whether you call Duncan a 4 or a 5 is pretty irrelevant. Duncan is always going to guard the opposing teams best front court player, and plays as much like a C as he does a PF on offense. Also, the guys he plays alongside most--oberto and elson--can easily be considered 4's.
As far as stats alone go, I would take the 18/11/3 over 22/9/1 with excellent defense. Statistically, Yao should take it, but the Rox are doing so bad its hard to justify it. If you can make a case for yao, then you can also easily make a case for Kaman to start.
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No, Duncan is a 5. Thats how he plays. He had originally been on the ballot as a center but the NBA changed it when they realized that he would lose out in fan voting to Yao and they didn't want to ruin TDs starter streak. Make of that what you will but he does deserve it more than Yao. Hollinger is doing this within the confines of the ballot.
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Mr. Perfect wrote:JOSE CALDERON muthatruckers. I hope all you Raptors haters are eating crow now, claiming how Calderon will never be anything more than a backup PG, and how he is not a top 15 pg in the league.
haha, that's laughable.
Btw, Jose Calderon has been better than Jason Kidd this year.
And no, I couldn't care less if my PG is rebounding. 36% shooting, LAWLZ.
Jose drops similiar numbers minus the rebounding, with MUCH MUCH better efficiency at 50%.
I'd pick Jose and Billups, but Kidd will get the nod because he's a HOF'er.
I don't know if the Raptors had a 1 year window to win a championship and were forced to take either Calderon or Kidd as their starting point guard they'd take Kidd rather easily.
Jose has been impressive but I like it when my point guard isn't a complete liability on defense, or in the clutch.
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Calderon vs. Kidd is an offense vs. defense argument really. Kidd has a reputation for great defense, and his defensive rebounding is still unheard of for a guard, but his man defense has significantly declined from what I've seen. Calderon is by far the better offensive player of the two, as reflected in the stats Hollinger provided. Although this is true, he has been an absolute sieve on defense, especially in games he has started. I say this as a Raptor fan, mind you. In the end, I'm going to say that Kidd takes the spot, based on reputation, minutes, triple doubles and flashiness. I also have Jefferson over Josh Smith.
EAST:
C - Howard
F - Garnett
F - James
G - Wade
G - Billups
C - Bosh
F - Butler
F - Pierce
G - Hamilton
G - Kidd
X - Jamison
X - Jefferson
Close: J Smith, Carter, Calderon
WEST:
C - Yao
F - Duncan
F - Nowitzki
G - Bryant
G - Paul
C - Stoudemire
F - Boozer
F - Anthony
G - Nash
G - Iverson
X - Ginobili
X - Baron
Close: Roy, Marion, Howard, Deron
EAST:
C - Howard
F - Garnett
F - James
G - Wade
G - Billups
C - Bosh
F - Butler
F - Pierce
G - Hamilton
G - Kidd
X - Jamison
X - Jefferson
Close: J Smith, Carter, Calderon
WEST:
C - Yao
F - Duncan
F - Nowitzki
G - Bryant
G - Paul
C - Stoudemire
F - Boozer
F - Anthony
G - Nash
G - Iverson
X - Ginobili
X - Baron
Close: Roy, Marion, Howard, Deron
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I don't know if the Raptors had a 1 year window to win a championship and were forced to take either Calderon or Kidd as their starting point guard they'd take Kidd rather easily.
Jose has been impressive but I like it when my point guard isn't a complete liability on defense, or in the clutch.
calderon is good, kidd is great.
jose is not a game changer material.
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NetsForce wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
I don't know if the Raptors had a 1 year window to win a championship and were forced to take either Calderon or Kidd as their starting point guard they'd take Kidd rather easily.
Jose has been impressive but I like it when my point guard isn't a complete liability on defense, or in the clutch.
I agree with you. I was just a bit overexcited at the thought of Jose as an all-star.
Typical for a RealGM poster.