Denver nuggets vs Los angeles lakers 7 game series

[Bgil]

I would take the Lakers' defense over the Nuggets because they have better individual defenders (Kobe, Ariza, Bynum) than the Nuggets (Camby and no one else).

That's another great point. The Lakers have numerous players in the rotation that play very good defense... Kwame, Bynum, Kobe, Ariza, and Turiaf. Hell, Farmar's defense is solid too. We can easily put a great defensive lineup on the floor and the Nuggets really can't.

[yunggunz]

I would take the Lakers' defense over the Nuggets because they have better individual defenders (Kobe, Ariza, Bynum) than the Nuggets (Camby and no one else).

Please.


Nene, Kmart, Najera, and Carter are all superb, superb defenders.

And I really dont know where the idea that Ariza is a good defender comes from. Theres nothing to substantiate that.

[yunggunz]

I would take the Lakers' defense over the Nuggets because they have better individual defenders (Kobe, Ariza, Bynum) than the Nuggets (Camby and no one else).

That's another great point. The Lakers have numerous players in the rotation that play very good defense... Kwame, Bynum, Kobe, Ariza, and Turiaf. Hell, Farmar's defense is solid too. We can easily put a great defensive lineup on the floor and the Nuggets really can't.

I defensive lineup of Carter/Diawara/KMart/Nene/Camby would absolutely blow anything out of the water that the Lakers could field.

[Bgil]

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I defensive lineup of Carter/Diawara/KMart/Nene/Camby would absolutely blow anything out of the water that the Lakers could field.

Except that lineup would never see the floor because they can't score a lick. Diawara isn't even in the rotation anymore.

KMart isn't a "superb defender" by any metric. Carter is also massively overrated as a defender. To be fair, a lot of it is due to teams using him to guard the two-spot but he hasn't done much of anything to stop either of our PG's from shooting great percentages.

Since When did Nene become a good defender? Fouling doesn't count as defense.

[yunggunz]

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Except that lineup would never see the floor because they can't score a lick. Diawara isn't even in the rotation anymore.

KMart isn't a "superb defender" by any metric. Carter is also massively overrated as a defender. To be fair, a lot of it is due to teams using him to guard the two-spot but he hasn't done much of anything to stop either of our PG's from shooting great percentages.

Since When did Nene become a good defender? Fouling doesn't count as defense.

This is a pointless argument because you clearly have only seen the nuggets when they played the Lakers, and those were by all admission piss poor efforts by the Nuggs.


And Kmart is a superb defender by pretty much every metric. And dont you think its a little hypocritical to praise Bynums defense in one breath and then criticize Nene for being a foul machine in the next?

[black06eclipse]

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Except that lineup would never see the floor because they can't score a lick. Diawara isn't even in the rotation anymore.

KMart isn't a "superb defender" by any metric. Carter is also massively overrated as a defender. To be fair, a lot of it is due to teams using him to guard the two-spot but he hasn't done much of anything to stop either of our PG's from shooting great percentages.

Since When did Nene become a good defender? Fouling doesn't count as defense.

are you kidding? thats the only thing that he's known for. didn't Duncan call him one of the tougest defenders he's faced?

i think defense is the only thing that Nene does consistently well

[OmniDEN]

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Except that lineup would never see the floor because they can't score a lick. Diawara isn't even in the rotation anymore.

KMart isn't a "superb defender" by any metric. Carter is also massively overrated as a defender. To be fair, a lot of it is due to teams using him to guard the two-spot but he hasn't done much of anything to stop either of our PG's from shooting great percentages.

Since When did Nene become a good defender? Fouling doesn't count as defense.

Way to not know what you're talking about.

[black06eclipse]

as far as defense goes its simple.

Nuggets can't match the Laker's perimeter defense.
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Lakers can't come close to matching the Nugget's defense down low.

2 teams who's defenses excel at opposite things.

[sodmoraes]

see there

[black06eclipse]

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Uh... that already happened. Except it was in the Finals.

in retrospect, image wise and reputation wise that series was a win-win for Kobe AND Iverson.

most people only remember how awesome game 1 was.

[Bgil]

And dont you think its a little hypocritical to praise Bynums defense in one breath and then criticize Nene for being a foul machine in the next?

Nene is 3.3 fouls in 20 minutes and Bynum is 2.9 fouls in 28.8 minutes.

Socks is 8th in BLK/g, 8th in BLK/48, 4th in drbs/48 and make a night and day difference in the Lakers D when you actually watch games. Nene has only played in 12 games this season and only 78 in the past 3 years. He doesn't rebound and he doesn't block shots. he holds his man to relatively a relatively average PER. Can't say any of that concerning Bynum.

and those were by all admission piss poor efforts by the Nuggs.

AI dropped 48 through three quarters? That's "piss-poor"? You guys got ran in both games because your perimeter defense is crap. You can't let Fisher, Vlad, and Vujacic drop 20+ on you and expect to win.

[Bgil]

as far as defense goes its simple.

Nuggets can't match the Laker's perimeter defense.
and
Lakers can't come close to matching the Nugget's defense down low.

2 teams who's defenses excel at opposite things.

Our defense down low is a hell of a lot better than their perimeter D. Look at our rebounding. Look at Bynum anchoring the paint. Kwame usually plays good positional D. Even Turiaf is good for some solid D and shotblocking at the 4 spot.

[yunggunz]

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Our defense down low is a hell of a lot better than their perimeter D. Look at our rebounding. Look at Bynum anchoring the paint. Kwame usually plays good positional D. Even Turiaf is good for some solid D and shotblocking at the 4 spot.

For all your great defense down low, you couldnt stop AI from slicing and dicing his way through the lane for 55 points.


Look, its no surprise that you think the Lakers are a much superior team to the Nuggets. Right now they are.

But its also clear you dont know **** about the nuggets, so please, for the sake of everyone, stop trying to act like you do.

You have posted a lot of smack on the general board about both the Nuggets and the Blazers, and its extremely obvious you dont watch either team. So keep pumpin up your lakers, but stop trying to analyze other teams.

[Bgil]

nene and martin arent good defenders?
ask tim duncan son..

All they did against the Spurs was pack the lane to stop Duncan. It halfway worked because timmy still got off a couple of times but in reality it just allowed Michael Finley to bomb you out of the series.

some pages ago a poster called farmar the "ai stoper"

Liar.

[yunggunz]

nene and martin arent good defenders?
ask tim duncan son..

All they did against the Spurs was pack the lane to stop Duncan. It halfway worked because timmy still got off a couple of times but in reality it just allowed Michael Finley to bomb you out of the series.

LMAO. DUDE YOU ARE SO **** CLUELESS!!! The Nuggets single teamed him almost the entire series with Nene. And in the last matchup with the spurs, they switched Nene, Kmart, and Najera on him with single coverage all night.

And now Im convinced you havent even seen the Spurs play. You think you can stop Duncan by packing the lane? ****, you are out of it.

JUST STOP!!!!

[farzi]

Bgil =

[Bgil]

For all your great defense down low, you couldnt stop AI from slicing and dicing his way through the lane for 55 points.

We stopped him in the fourth or have you forgotten that? But having AI drop 51 on you means exactly nothing. It's like being knocked out by Lennox Lewis, doesn't mean you suck. Likewise when Kobe dropped a perfect quarter on AK47 no one uses that as evidence that he sucks.

[That Nicka]

some pages ago a poster called farmar the "ai stoper"

Dont put words in people's mouths... YOU said that... Not a "dilusional Laker fan"

Last season Farmar put the clamps on AI too.

This is what he said.. He was talking about ONE game

lakers fans are dilusional...farmar the ai stopper

This was your respose

[Bgil]

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LMAO. DUDE YOU ARE SO **** CLUELESS!!! The Nuggets single teamed him almost the entire series with Nene. And in the last matchup with the spurs, they switched Nene, Kmart, and Najera on him with single coverage all night.

And now Im convinced you havent even seen the Spurs play. You think you can stop Duncan by packing the lane? ****, you are out of it.

JUST STOP!!!!

Please, if they didn't pack the lane on him then how does Finley shoot 53% from 3 and average 16 ppg? He was wide open all series. Everyone packs the lane on the Spurs this isn't some new concept. What do you think they were daring the Spurs to throw in inside? LOL

[yunggunz]

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Please, if they didn't pack the lane on him then how does Finley shoot 53% from 3 and average 16 ppg? He was wide open all series. Everyone packs the lane on the Spurs this isn't some new concept. What do you think they were daring the Spurs to throw in inside? LOL

Look, you clearly didnt watch the series. You clearly didnt watch the last matchup. You clearly have never seen the nuggets outside of games vs LA. And judging by the fact you think you stop duncan by packing the lane and by the way you try to extrapolate basketball stats to make silly conclusions, you dont know much about basketball. Just stop. Im done with you.