LAKERS number 1 seed in the Western Conference. Officially

Post #61 » by **Basti** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:09 pm

Papercut wrote: Wed 13 @ Minnesota

you're that scared of us?

Craig McDermott · Post #62 » by **Craig McDermott** » Tue Jan 15, 2008 11:20 pm

xx_skaterdude_xx wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

....15?

26-11 = 15. "Cushion" refers to how many they can lose before dropping below .500, the fine line they have trod for much of the last few years before Bynum's ascension.

Blame Rasho · Post #63 » by **Blame Rasho** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:32 am

Honestly, when was the last time a #1 seed in January missed the playoffs

Milwaukee Bucks in 2001-02

B-Scott · Post #64 » by **B-Scott** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:37 am

Cracked Fingers wrote

I'd prefer it have been

Kobe
Caron
Haslem
Bynum

Hell I would trade Odom right now for Haslem and filler.

Dwayne Wade would gladly accept that deal and so would Lebron for Drew Gooden.

Lamar gets a lot of hate from Laker fans,but i bet Lebron and Wade would gladly take him for Haslem or Drew Gooden.

Showtime:Part2 · Post #65 » by **Showtime:Part2** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:44 am

B-Scott wrote:Cracked Fingers wrote

I'd prefer it have been

Kobe
Caron
Haslem
Bynum

Hell I would trade Odom right now for Haslem and filler.

Dwayne Wade would gladly accept that deal and so would Lebron for Drew Gooden.

Lamar gets a lot of hate from Laker fans,but i bet Lebron and Wade would gladly take him for Haslem or Drew Gooden.

you are wrong. once they see that odom likes to chuck jumpshots he has no chance of making, they will change their minds.

Post #66 » by **Doctor MJ** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:45 am

TD is the MAN wrote:
Honestly, when was the last time a #1 seed in January missed the playoffs

Milwaukee Bucks in 2001-02

You sure about that can you give me a date, and their record on that date compared to New Jersey's?

That Nicka · Post #67 » by **That Nicka** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 12:53 am

B-Scott wrote:Cracked Fingers wrote

I'd prefer it have been

Kobe
Caron
Haslem
Bynum

Hell I would trade Odom right now for Haslem and filler.

Dwayne Wade would gladly accept that deal and so would Lebron for Drew Gooden.

Lamar gets a lot of hate from Laker fans,but i bet Lebron and Wade would gladly take him for Haslem or Drew Gooden.

Its a good thing we have B-Scott on these boards so he can tell us how LeBron and Wade think in different scenarios

Blame Rasho · Post #68 » by **Blame Rasho** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 1:40 am

Doctor MJ wrote:You sure about that can you give me a date, and their record on that date compared to New Jersey's?

New Jersey

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Milwaukee

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I was mistaken... I could have sworn they were first for a good part of the season but they were separated by 1/2 game at this point in time.

I vividly remember their fall from grace, 1st in the division and a game away from the Finals the year before, to out of the playoffs with basically the same core with everyone relatively healthy.

Post #69 » by **Doctor MJ** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 2:30 am

TD is the MAN wrote:I was mistaken... I could have sworn they were first for a good part of the season but they were separated by 1/2 game at this point in time.

I vividly remember their fall from grace, 1st in the division and a game away from the Finals the year before, to out of the playoffs with basically the same core with everyone relatively healthy.

Fair enough. You're right that that was one epic collapse.

The one that came to mind for as the last team of this stature to collapse was the '04-05 Kings who had an identical record at this time. But while there's no doubt that was a huge collapse, that still only dropped them to 50-32 by season's end.

_BBIB_ · Post #70 » by **_BBIB_** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 3:51 am

I remember in a thread several weeks ago about teams who could potentially win 60 games and I listed the Lakers if Bynum could continue playing out of his mind.

It's unfortunate that he got injured because that might have actually come to fruition.

Cafu · Post #71 » by **Cafu** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 6:37 am

Well, another day at the 1st seed, this time we dont have to share or tie with anyone :lol:

Number34 · Post #72 » by **Number34** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:13 am

[quote="Cracked Fingers"][/quote]

Miami says no mate

YiYaoYue · Post #73 » by **YiYaoYue** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:32 am

MilanLakers wrote:Well, another day at the 1st seed, this time we dont have to share or tie with anyone

I'm a fan of lakers.. but no Bynum... going to be really hard to stay there.

Pinot love · Post #74 » by **Pinot love** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:33 am

the7boss wrote:If Kobe Bryant isnt awarded the MVP this season i'm just done with the NBA.

It's a long season and there is a better team with just as valuable a player out there in Bean Town.

Post #75 » by **snaquille oatmeal** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:57 am

Pinot love wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

It's a long season and there is a better team with just as valuable a player out there in Bean Town.

you mean 3 because the one couldn't do it in Minnie by himself.

Post #76 » by **Doctor MJ** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 8:06 am

snaquille oatmeal wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

you mean 3 because the one couldn't do it in Minnie by himself.

...meanwhile Kobe is leading the Lakers completely by himself? I guess during the slide at the end of last year his teammates were shooting baskets for the other team just trying to hold him back!

EL_OCHO · Post #77 » by **EL_OCHO** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:09 am

Doctor MJ wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

...meanwhile Kobe is leading the Lakers completely by himself? I guess during the slide at the end of last year his teammates were shooting baskets for the other team just trying to hold him back!

So, you have been watching our games, then. :wink:

Pinot love · Post #78 » by **Pinot love** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 4:39 pm

snaquille oatmeal wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

you mean 3 because the one couldn't do it in Minnie by himself.

It relates to the whole swingman value vs. big man value. The swingman can be the better player, but because of the structure of the game and scarcity of big men are more valuable, as in Shaq saying "Kobe is the best player on the planet, but I'm the most dominant". I would say the difference in Boston's record roughly equals the difference in players around KG, although KG does have a weak bench and Allen has been out of hurt and playing frequently. Personally I like to see players in Kobe's position win the MVP over players in KG's. Although, I do believe Bynum is the biggest difference in the success of the Lakers. Kobe has played this well before and his Shaqless teams have not faired as well.

The most important issue regarding my response is that it's a very close race between Bryant and KG, it is far from being determined and comments like "If Kobe Bryant isnt awarded the MVP this season i'm just done with the NBA" are illogical because of this. There are solid grounds for giving both players the award at this point, but it's not really smart to project whose going to win at the end of the regular season because the most important parts have not been played yet.

The Laker Kid · Post #79 » by **The Laker Kid** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:13 pm

Doctor MJ wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Fair enough. You're right that that was one epic collapse.

The one that came to mind for as the last team of this stature to collapse was the '04-05 Kings who had an identical record at this time. But while there's no doubt that was a huge collapse, that still only dropped them to 50-32 by season's end.

ALL HAIL the RealGM walking Encyclopedia! I feel honored and humbled to be posting on the same thread that you posted on :bowdown: