Mr. Consistency

jeremy1215 · Post #1 » by **jeremy1215** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:12 pm

Guess who's numbers these are:

17.3 PPG
5.8 RPG
3.2 APG
49% from the field
43% from three
In 33 MPG

Did you guess Mike Dunleavy? Because if you did, you're right. Why does he get so much hate? The guy is living up to his contract, and is one of the best off the ball offense players in the league. Suprisingly enough, he isn't as bad of a defender as he is known for. He tries his best every night, and hustles with the best of them. So why is he still hated so much?

MagicFan3 · Post #2 » by **MagicFan3** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:15 pm

No one hates Dunleavy. He's just a very boring player, so he gets no attention.

NetsForce · Post #3 » by **NetsForce** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:16 pm

Correction: He's finally living up to his contract / draft hype.

I don't see him hated that much anymore either =/ he's definitely playing a lot better now than in years past and it's not a fluke IMHO he just needed out of G-State.

Magz50 · Post #4 » by **Magz50** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:16 pm

Being a quiet consistently good player in the NBA means you're boring. See Duncan etc. If you're always in the media for being a jackass and play street ball then you're hyped up like crazy. Especially on these boards.

superLuigi21 · Post #5 » by **superLuigi21** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:17 pm

cuz he went to duke? cuz he was a late bloomer in the nba? cuz he has a huge dome? i personally dont hate the guy tho

theTHIEF · Post #6 » by **theTHIEF** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:17 pm

you can confirm this with fellow Orlando board posters, i have been after this guy for years...I even wanted to trade for him in the off season, and I was laughed at...

jeremy1215 · Post #7 » by **jeremy1215** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:19 pm

Why do you have to be a low IQ player that dunks to get attention around here? Just because he isn't on the highlight reel doesn't mean he isn't a great player. He has to be one of the smartest players in the game right now. He rarely makes mistakes, and he is always at the right place at the right time.

I think Dunleavy and Luol Deng of last year are about the same, and Deng got attention. In fact, Dunleavy is putting up about the same numbers plus a three point shot as Deng of last year.

L&H_05 · Post #8 » by **L&H_05** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:20 pm

He's going bald to...

Just sayin'...

Egg Nog · Post #9 » by **Egg Nog** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:21 pm

I can't say much about him from a personal perspective because I haven't made a point of watching him, however:

Watching League Pass games, I've noticed most announcers are typically most critical of his lack of ability to create his own shot. Also, what essentially equates to his "lack of court presence" is the reason he flies under the radar (from the perspective of fans and opposing teams). He's got solid fundamentals but I have a feeling he'd absolutely collapse under a double-team. But a good player? For sure. Very well-coached and seems to understand the game better than almost anyone.

ESPN gave Chris Bosh their highest praise for consistency last year (although I'm not sure if he deserved it over absolutely everyone else). I wonder who it will be this year?

NetsForce · Post #10 » by **NetsForce** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:22 pm

Deng is younger and on the Bulls so his hype factor automatically gets multiplied by 6.

jeremy1215 · Post #11 » by **jeremy1215** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:26 pm

A lot of players can't create their own shot. Actually, its good to have players like him that can hit open shots and don't have to doninate the ball to do it. And he can drive the ball when needed.

jeremy1215 · Post #12 » by **jeremy1215** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:26 pm

NetsForce wrote:Deng is younger and on the Bulls so his hype factor automatically gets multiplied by 6.

Yeah but he hasn't been nearly as good this year.

Egg Nog · Post #13 » by **Egg Nog** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:29 pm

jeremy1215 wrote:A lot of players can't create their own shot. Actually, its good to have players like him that can hit open shots and don't have to doninate the ball to do it. And he can drive the ball when needed.

Yeah yeah, that's cool. But you asked why he isn't really getting very much attention. This is why. I don't particularly think anyone hates him, it's just that he doesn't jump out at you because he's not an exciting player.

You're never going to hear the play-by-play guy go nuts saying "OH BABY WHAT A PLAY! DUNLEAVY WITH THE OPEN 14-FOOT JUMPER"

conleyorbust · Post #14 » by **conleyorbust** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:32 pm

Well for one, the numbers he is putting up now are new to him. He has never been this consistent before. For two, coach K compared him to Grant Hill before the draft. For three, and probably most important, he has called out his coaches, teamates, and even the fans when things weren't going right.

For all you anti-hip hop and streetball people (whatever the **** that means), you complain about guys dunking and getting hype but you are perfectly willing to assume that any white guy playing "fundamental basketball" is a nice dude and people don't like him because he doesn't dunk. The guy has always had the reputation as a prick.

Egg Nog · Post #15 » by **Egg Nog** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:40 pm

conleyorbust wrote:you are perfectly willing to assume that any white guy playing "fundamental basketball" is a nice dude and people don't like him because he doesn't dunk.

Yeah but do people actually think this? He plays fundamentally sound ball, but I've heard he was a jerk too. I just didn't think anyone would draw a correlation between the two.

conleyorbust · Post #16 » by **conleyorbust** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 9:46 pm

Egg Nog wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Yeah but do people actually think this? He plays fundamentally sound ball, but I've heard he was a jerk too. I just didn't think anyone would draw a correlation between the two.

The question was: why the hate? The answer is that he has alienated a good portion of the people he has been associated with since coming to the NBA. Not because he doesn't dunk. A few people made the comment that you only get credit in the league if you can dunk and play street ball and thats why people don't like Mike. I disagree with that.

realfung · Post #17 » by **realfung** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 10:09 pm

I guess consistency is about giving all out every game, but not average numbers......

And no one hates him.

jeremy1215 · Post #18 » by **jeremy1215** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:22 pm

He hasn't been called a prick here in Indiana, not at all. And if my fans hated my guts I think i'd be a jerk to them too.

BROWN · Post #19 » by **BROWN** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:47 pm

I hate him, he couldn't do anything on the warriors,
was a cry baby and a puss.

I'm happy he's out of oakland, dude will never get the respect he deserves from gsw, for all the crap ball he played down there.

ilikecb4 · Post #20 » by **ilikecb4** » Wed Jan 16, 2008 11:56 pm

I hate the dude...he's a slow white stiff...

he's pretty boring...he screwed warriors pretty bad...had some consistenly garbage games...

He's basically putting up good numbers on a bad team...

see: MIKE JAMES toronto raptors

He can't create his own shot, his D is sorely lacking, his quickness is minimal...

Don't even try to compare Luol Deng to this bum...

He's just putting up good numbers on a bad team...that's it..