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How much will Jose Calderon make this offseason?
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:17 pm
by bstein14
This guy deserves to start somewhere. If Ford is still there in Toronto he may look for as much money as possible somewhere he can go be a starter.
He has averaged 13.8 points, 9.9 assists and just 1.8 turnovers in his 28 starts while shooting 50.7 percent from the floor, 43.4 percent on 3s and 91.2 percent from the line.
Those are all-star caliber numbers. And he's still young with potential to get better.
5 years $50 million? more? less?
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:20 pm
by BrooklynBulls
He's like, 25, isn't he? If he keeps up his numbers during the season, I can see teams offering him a Nash-like salary. However, with so few teams under the cap, I wonder who'll be able to offer anything.
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:38 pm
by farzi
My guess is 9-10 mil per
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:39 pm
by Kosta
BrooklynBulls wrote:He's like, 25, isn't he? If he keeps up his numbers during the season, I can see teams offering him a Nash-like salary. However, with so few teams under the cap, I wonder who'll be able to offer anything.
BStein, he's our starter, even when T.J gets back. Sam Mitchell already came out and said it, Calderon will be starting for the foreseeable future. Sam even said that T.J might not start again this season.
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 1:40 pm
by magicfan4life05
if he gets that type of money and the raps keep him, will he start ahead of ford?
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:00 pm
by scottyo50
considering he wont be playing a game, and he wont be under contract, i assume he wont get paid anything. unless he gets a part time job at burger king.
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:01 pm
by Kosta
magicfan4life05 wrote:if he gets that type of money and the raps keep him, will he start ahead of ford?
I'm not the coach, I don't make the decisions. But I can tell you that coaching and management has taken a real liking to Calderon and Colangelo has gone on the record several times already stating that he is going to keep Calderon here at all costs. I believe that they're sold on him and believe he's the guy for us at the 1 looking forward.
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:07 pm
by Hendrix
Kosta wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
BStein, he's our starter, even when T.J gets back. Sam Mitchell already came out and said it, Calderon will be starting for the foreseeable future. Sam even said that T.J might not start again this season.
source? Not questioning you, just havn't read that yet.
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:09 pm
by theGreatRC
The Raptors can give Calderon as much as he wants, and very few teams can give him more than the MLE; bad year for free agents with everyone over the lux.
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:13 pm
by Kosta
Hendrix wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
source? Not questioning you, just havn't read that yet.
I saw it scattered in a few threads around the Raps board. It was quoted from one of the local papers I believe, so it's legit. Smith or Grange probably.
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:24 pm
by BrooklynBulls
theGreatRC wrote:The Raptors can give Calderon as much as he wants, and very few teams can give him more than the MLE; bad year for free agents with everyone over the lux.
It really only takes one team to be under the cap to be a big threat. I think Philly is that team. With Korver gone, Philly is at 31 million for next year, with a 9.4 million dollar cap hold on Iggy, and a 2 million dollar cap hold on Louis Williams. Assuming a cap of 57 million, they should have 10+ million available after draft day. More if they can deal Willie Green for an expirer.
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:36 pm
by cb4_89
Philly is not going to get rid of all their players so they have the money to screw over the raptors. And even then the raps will match and it would leave the sixers screwed.
Sixers can offer that 9.4 million and the raps will match without hesitation.
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 2:56 pm
by cdcastellon1
more than 8 mill garanteed.
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 3:00 pm
by bstein14
The lack of competition is not the only factor. Calderon is going to want what he thinks he deserves.
He's going to want more than what Ben Gordon will get, and deservingly so.
He's going to look to deals that other all-star PG's have signed recently.
If the Raps GM comes out with a lowball offer because he doesn't think that Calderon can get more elsewhere I think that players will notice this and there will be resentment towards the Raps management. That is just how it works.
Even if other teams won't be able to offer more than $40 million over 5 years it doesn't mean that Calderon will be happy or settle for such a small amount.
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 4:15 pm
by ImissJordan
bstein14 wrote:The lack of competition is not the only factor. Calderon is going to want what he thinks he deserves.
He's going to want more than what Ben Gordon will get, and deservingly so.
He's going to look to deals that other all-star PG's have signed recently.
If the Raps GM comes out with a lowball offer because he doesn't think that Calderon can get more elsewhere I think that players will notice this and there will be resentment towards the Raps management. That is just how it works.
Even if other teams won't be able to offer more than $40 million over 5 years it doesn't mean that Calderon will be happy or settle for such a small amount.
I'd say $8 million per sounds about right.
As for the whole "T.J./Jose" debate, I think it's obvious that Ford will back up Calderon while trying to get back into game shape. People forget just how well T.J. was playing this season; he was averaging 14 points (shooting almost 50 per cent from the field) and 7 assists in only 25 minutes.
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:35 pm
by Patterns
cb4_89 wrote:Philly is not going to get rid of all their players so they have the money to screw over the raptors. And even then the raps will match and it would leave the sixers screwed.
Sixers can offer that 9.4 million and the raps will match without hesitation.
Will Calderon be a RFA or a UFA?
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 6:49 pm
by sattu
Patterns wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Will Calderon be a RFA or a UFA?
RFA
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:14 pm
by MrCheerios
How much can Atlanta or Seattle offer? I can see teams just dumping salary to try to nab him. The man is just smooth.
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 7:23 pm
by positivetension
Hendrix wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
source? Not questioning you, just havn't read that yet.
"Bottom line: I thought that Calderon was just keeping the Raptors' point guard seat warm until Ford returned from injury. But now after really paying attention to Calderon's game, I understand why Raptors head coach Sam Mitchell said on Tuesday that Ford won't start upon his return and that he may not start for the rest of the season. With a third-year player blossoming the way that Calderon has, Mitchell almost has no choice but to keep riding with him. This is great news for Calderon's fantasy owners, and could be good news for the NBA as a whole because the league can always use another great floor general."
Taken from a RotoWire article:
http://sports.yahoo.com/fantasy/nba/news;_ylt=Agx2NtLTh5N1o4QdIoNxgAqkvLYF?slug=as-hoopslab_012508&prov=rotowire&type=lgns
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2008 8:11 pm
by jax98
Anything less than $9M is a steal for Toronto.