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Jason Kidd wants out (Merged Threads)

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:17 pm
by halfHAVOC
whos gonna bite?

he wants to go to a contender, who can send the best offer to the nets? your thoughts?

Merged the "OT: Jason Kidd" thread with the pre-existing "Jason Kidd wants out" thread.

-miller

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:22 pm
by Kosta
About time. Thorn needs to buck up and pull the trigger on something, the Nets are done. They won't get much for Kidd at this point, but keeping him around isn't going to increase his value either.

New Jersey thought they had problems now, watch a team void of all leadership, a team whose primary voice would be Vince Carter's.

They're screwed.

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:23 pm
by King Roosk
Rafer Alston, Mike James, Kirk Snyder, and a 2nd for Kidd!

...I wish

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:23 pm
by halfHAVOC
well its a domino effect.

yall might as well throw bids up for RJ and Vince.

Vince is 30
RJ is 27 , theres some serious rebuilding to happen.

Kidd leaves, VC leaves, if VC leaves then RJ leaves.

let the draft picks and youth start coming.

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:26 pm
by HumbleBumbleBee
I love it!

No surprising lots of Net fans have been saying he wants out for a while.

Ship Kidd to the West

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:26 pm
by KB20
Lakers offer Kwame, Vlad, Mihm, Critt, Sasha, and a 1st for Kidd and Magloire. It might not seem like equal value but when a star asks for out his value drops and New Jersey WILL be low-balled.

5) Jamaal Magloire/DJ Mbenga/Andrew Bynum
4) Lamar Odom/Ronny Turiaf
3) Luke Walton/Trevor Ariza
2) Kobe Bryant/Coby Karl
1) Jason Kidd/Derek Fisher/Jordan Farmar

This would enable us to sign Ruben Patterson, Chris Webber, and Jalen Rose.

Lineup when healthy:

5) Andrew Bynum/Jamaal Magloire/DJ Mbenga
4) Lamar Odom/Chris Webber/Ronny Turiaf
3) Trevor Ariza/Luke Walton/Ruben Patterson
2) Kobe Bryant/Jalen Rose/Coby Karl
1) Jason Kidd/Derek Fisher/Jordan Farmar

That team could take anyone in this league.

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:26 pm
by MagicFan3
If they'll take expirings and a first, count the Magic in.

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:28 pm
by King Roosk
KB20 wrote:Lakers offer Kwame, Vlad, Mihm, Critt, Sasha, and a 1st for Kidd and Magloire. It might not seem like equal value but when a star asks for out his value drops and New Jersey WILL be low-balled.

5) Jamaal Magloire/DJ Mbenga/Andrew Bynum
4) Lamar Odom/Ronny Turiaf
3) Luke Walton/Trevor Ariza
2) Kobe Bryant/Coby Karl
1) Jason Kidd/Derek Fisher/Jordan Farmar

This would enable us to sign Ruben Patterson, Chris Webber, and Jalen Rose.

Lineup when healthy:

5) Andrew Bynum/Jamaal Magloire/DJ Mbenga
4) Lamar Odom/Chris Webber/Ronny Turiaf
3) Trevor Ariza/Luke Walton/Ruben Patterson
2) Kobe Bryant/Jalen Rose/Coby Karl
1) Jason Kidd/Derek Fisher/Jordan Farmar

That team could take anyone in this league.


I was following you until Jalen Rose. Why Jalen Rose?

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:28 pm
by NetsForce
Realistically speaking keeping Kidd, sucking, getting a high lottery pick, and then either moving him on draft day, or just letting his contract expire at the end of next year makes the most sense.

I figure 2 years in the lottery + an expiring 20+ million contract + the development of young players already on the Nets roster + a move to Brooklybn

Is a nice way to rebuild...

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:33 pm
by Kobay
The nets gotta get some size in the trade or draft a big.

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:33 pm
by HumbleBumbleBee
NetsForce wrote:Realistically speaking keeping Kidd, sucking, getting a high lottery pick, and then either moving him on draft day, or just letting his contract expire at the end of next year makes the most sense.

I figure 2 years in the lottery + an expiring 20+ million contract + the development of young players already on the Nets roster + a move to Brooklybn

Is a nice way to rebuild...


I could see that sig. 1000 times a day and still laugh like I've never seen it before...gold!

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:33 pm
by JWiLL02
King Roosk wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



I was following you until Jalen Rose. Why Jalen Rose?


For his witty interviews and hilarious insights on the team?

Because he has an extensive wardrobe to wear on the bench?

Because his name is awesome?

That's the best I could do.

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:35 pm
by RockTHECasbah
Other than Sean, who do you think develop to be good/great players?

Wright? No
Kristic? He should be producing like he did before his injury.
Marcus? Don't like his attitude, and he seems to shoot too much for someone who can't.

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:35 pm
by Boner Champ
Kidd to Portland would make so much sense.

His experience and distribution skills would do wonders with that young team.

They should have enough pieces to make a move w/o giving up Roy and Oden (and maybe even Aldridge).

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:40 pm
by halfHAVOC
Stalker wrote:Kidd to Portland would make so much sense.

His experience and distribution skills would do wonders with that young team.

They should have enough pieces to make a move w/o giving up Roy and Oden (and maybe even Aldridge).


he wants to go to a contender.

i would think the mavs are a good fit as well are the lakers and cavs

but the lakers have crap to offer.

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:41 pm
by LakerFanMan
I seriously doubt Portland would be willing to give up what it would take to get Kidd, nor do I think they want him any way. They are one of the youngest teams in the league and are already a playoff team. A team like the Heat or Cavs would be prime targets. Maybe Orlando, the Clippers, or even the Mavs would be up there as interested as well.

Also, the Lakers have more to offer then the cavs or Heat do. Farmar, Critt, Kwame (large expiring), Walton, Ariza, and Odom could all be trade pieces. I guess it all depends on where his value is really at.

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:42 pm
by nate33
NetsForce wrote:Realistically speaking keeping Kidd, sucking, getting a high lottery pick, and then either moving him on draft day, or just letting his contract expire at the end of next year makes the most sense.

If you move him on draft day, you are going to get stuck with some bad contracts in return. If you want to deal him and get some cap relief, you need to make the deal before the Trade Deadline this year.

I agree that doing nothing is a better option that doing something that saddles you with a long contract (like VladRad). But you definitely ought to consider trading Kidd to Orlando for expirings and a 1st round pick. You get some cap relief a year earlier, and you get a pick. It's better than nothing.

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:48 pm
by Boner Champ
LakerFanMan wrote:I seriously doubt Portland would be willing to give up what it would take to get Kidd, nor do I think they want him any way. They are one of the youngest teams in the league and are already a playoff team. A team like the Heat or Cavs would be prime targets. Maybe Orlando, the Clippers, or even the Mavs would be up there as interested as well.

Also, the Lakers have more to offer then the cavs or Heat do. Farmar, Critt, Kwame (large expiring), Walton, Ariza, and Odom could all be trade pieces. I guess it all depends on where his value is really at.


I think you're right that they won't make a move for him, and I also agree that he might not want to go there. But if they had the nads to make this move I think it would be brilliant for the development of their youngs. Roy wouldn't have to carry all the burden of having the ball in his hands all the time, and Aldridge and Oden would get great looks and hasten their development.

Not only that, but with Kidd they'd be a legitimate contender to make it 2-3 rounds into the playoffs for the next couple of years.

Plus, they don't need any more youth, so their draft picks for the next couple of years aren't as valuable as they have been.

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:50 pm
by jeff1624
Kidd, Allen and armstrong

For

Cook :sour: , Dooling, Arroyo, Battie and Garrity plus an unprotective first

Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 5:55 pm
by Universe
I don't wanna make a move until we get rid of Carter. We get stuck with two gaurds without a point gaurd and then we seem even more desperate.