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yeah, another gasol thread.

i'm interested in seeing what offers were actually on the table for pau gasol? what teams actually showed interested in acquiring him?

a lot of people have been saying that this trade sucked for the grizz, which is right...but a lot of people are also saying that the grizz could have gotten more or passed up better packages. what exactly were those packages? i'm not talking about what u think a team could have offered, i'm talking about what have u read about what a team actually did indeed offer.

the bulls for example are a common team to bring up when discussing the grizz passing up a better offer but straight from the grizz' owners mouth he says the bulls simply weren't interested in paying the lux tax for gasol.


http://www.suntimes.com/sports/mariotti ... 08.article

"`We had conversations with Chicago which were non-satisfactory. They didn't want to take on the luxury-tax situation and Los Angeles was,'' Heisley told the Memphis Commercial Appeal. ``In this league, if you're in a big-market area, you can afford to do those things. We negotiated as hard as we could for quality players, and (Chicago) refused to give up anybody within their core group. What they offered us were guys who play on the second and third team, so we turned them down.'' "

i've also read some people mention the hawks even though as far as i know there are no reports they were ever interested in gasol, especially with smith about to get a huge contract, al horford playing center, and the ever fragile ownership situation. they've basically been mentioned without merit.

what documented offers were out there?

I dont believe anyone really offered what LAL could to MEM... teams that could have beaten Lakers offer (CHI, for example) didnt want to part with young talent... which in my mind, is utterly stupid. But Paxson always has been against mid-season trades, maybe its a policy thing

The Lakers had the right assets at the right time and capitalized... these coaches getting angry about it are pissed that the Lakers were the beneficiaries, thats all..

Mitch Cupcake, GM of the year. I dont care what Ainge did with McFail's help, Cupcake had a shotgun pointed at him from his star player, a target painted on him by the media, he stuck to his guns and made an unfathomably great trade.

Trade Deadline was still far away. Mem could've waited and pitched harder for a better offer.



IMO it seems like you're dismissing the fact that LA raped Memphis in that trade. Why? It doesn't take away anything from LA, it just shows a bad job by Chris Wallace.

i'm not dismissing it, its just not the point of this thread. there are several threads on that topic.

I would bet that the big problem was that Chicago wanted to trade Ben for Gasol, and Memphis of course didn't want that contract.

jourdy wrote:Trade Deadline was still far away. Mem could've waited and pitched harder for a better offer.



IMO it seems like you're dismissing the fact that LA raped Memphis in that trade. Why? It doesn't take away anything from LA, it just shows a bad job by Chris Wallace.

MEM didn't have the luxury of waiting like any other team who hasa disgruntled star (Kidd, JO, etc). Those other teams didn't care about salary as they were fine with their disgruntled star not being traded. MEM, on the other hand, had their own motive, which was to shed salaries. Hence, it isn't out of rationality to assume they didn't want to risk the trade deadline passing without swapping Gasol for some expiring K's & picks. Remember that Kwame was heavily rumored to be moved before the deadline. MEM appeared to the ones desperate in this case.

jourdy wrote:Trade Deadline was still far away. Mem could've waited and pitched harder for a better offer.

IMO it seems like you're dismissing the fact that LA raped Memphis in that trade. Why? It doesn't take away anything from LA, it just shows a bad job by Chris Wallace.

Humbug. And if they still wound up making the Laker deal, all of you would still by crying about it like lil jealous ho'z. Add JVG to the list, just heard him whining.

No one cried when Sheed or Baron got dumped for nothing. It's just because the Lakers scored big that people are whining.

little known fact- LA's original offer was Odom for Gasol right after Bynum went down. the Grizz turn it down because they did not want to carry Odoms 14 mil salary through 2009. the night before the trade was anounced, Memphis called Mitch and asked for Kwame, LA jumped on it.

And Kwame is a CORE PLAYER? GET **** outta here.

mistatwo mayn wrote:And Kwame is a CORE PLAYER? GET **** outta here.

no he is a 9.1 exp contract. it is either pay 14+ mill next season or have 9.1 off the books at the end of this season.

Some say NJ offered Collins, Magloire, Nachbar and picks.

Magloire and Nachbar expire this year and they wanted Collins's contract enough to trade for him. I think the only thing we didn't offer was a young talent.

Marc Gasol is a monster prospect for Memphis.

collins doesn't expire this yr, he's due over 6 mil next yr.

dcash4 wrote:collins doesn't expire this yr, he's due over 6 mil next yr.

I never said Collins was an expiring. I said they wanted his contract enough to trade for him though.

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I never said Collins was an expiring. I said they wanted his contract enough to trade for him though.

my mistake though they didn't trade for him because they wanted his contract bad enough. they traded for him cause they wanted to get rid of swift, someone with the same contract.

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Humbug. And if they still wound up making the Laker deal, all of you would still by crying about it like lil jealous ho'z. Add JVG to the list, just heard him whining.

No one cried when Sheed or Baron got dumped for nothing. It's just because the Lakers scored big that people are whining.

Crying?
Is that what you insinuated by reading my post?

Either there's a goose egg in your brain or you're too defensive. I'm guessing it's the latter, which is puzzling since what is there to be defensive about? That the Lakers made a great deal? Maybe I should have said, "LOL AT THE FOOLS! LA TRADED THEIR BEST PLAYER KWAME FOR A SCRUB ROFLLLLLLL LOLATCHUUUUU"